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Do you have to be a creationist to be a true Christian?

Does a believer have to accept the creation narrative in Genesis to be a true Christian?

  • Yes, it's necessary to believe the Bible is infallible to be a true Christian

  • No, he or she can accept evolution and still be a Christian


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Angel Wings 1288

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Some Christians think that you must believe every part of the Bible, including the creation narrative in the Book of Genesis, is infallible to be a true Christian. That is, you must believe the universe, Earth, and humanity were created in six 24-hour periods, otherwise they think you’re not a true Christian.

Other Christians have accepted evolution science. Unlike atheists, though, most of these Christians believe God guided the evolutionary process, that it was his tool for creating humans. Many creationists think this type of Christian who accepts evolution cannot be considered a true Christian.

What do you think? Do believers have to accept the creation narrative in Genesis to be a true Christian? Or do you think otherwise?
 

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Do believers have to accept the creation narrative in Genesis to be a true Christian?
Of course not.... but it helps. :preach:

Ask me what I mean if you're interested.
 
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What did Jesus say?

16) For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Jesus says, to have everlasting life you have to believe in Him...and be a creationist, believe in Him...and be a theistic evolutionist, believe in Him...and (insert any name or action here). No, Jesus says if you believe in Him you will not perish and will have everlasting life...period. Then, you've got to trust Jesus to do what He said He will do...save you.

9) If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10) For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved. (Romans 10:9-10)
 
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Nope

In fact if you claim to know the Bible is a literal word for word account you are claiming to know the 100% objective truth of the Bible thus you can prove, objectively to the entire world, that the Bible is divine

That would make you Jesus Christ, because only God's son could prove to the world that the book is divine

Logic has really gone out the window lately
 
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I would say no I believe in certain aspects of evolution such as adaptation of organisms over time and i'm a christian myself. I believe birds for example/alligators etc. changed over time I feel you would have to be crazy not to at least believe that.

Now when it comes to humans evolving from something else sure you don't have to believe that..but that's just a part of evolution. People act like becuase you disagree with maybe some of it you can't believe in other parts of it, I disagree with that. Evolution is a big concept.
 
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"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved,..." Acts 16:31 That is the bottom line.
Christians should believe a lot of others things as well, but their salvation isn't dependent on anything else.
Many Christians believe things that are not true, like evolution, but they are still Christians.
Extremely rare, if even existing, is the Christian that has been around for a long time, and believes correctly on all the things that they have heard about.
 
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Christianity is about ones relationship with Jesus, not how one views the bible.

That said if one is going to believe evolution one should investigate what and why the early promotors of evolution believed.
 
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If you are interested, here is a wonderful explanation of why exactly the theory of evolution is hugely flawed (from both a scientific and a Biblical viewpoint).

 
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Some Christians think that you must believe every part of the Bible, including the creation narrative in the Book of Genesis, is infallible to be a true Christian. That is, you must believe the universe, Earth, and humanity were created in six 24-hour periods, otherwise they think you’re not a true Christian.

Other Christians have accepted evolution science. Unlike atheists, though, most of these Christians believe God guided the evolutionary process, that it was his tool for creating humans. Many creationists think this type of Christian who accepts evolution cannot be considered a true Christian.

What do you think? Do believers have to accept the creation narrative in Genesis to be a true Christian? Or do you think otherwise?

Evolution is taught as a godless process, but that is not
taught by people who have a clue what God is capable of.
 
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If you are interested, here is a wonderful explanation of why exactly the theory of evolution is hugely flawed (from both a scientific and a Biblical viewpoint).

It's only flawed in the aspect that people think it is a godless process.
 
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It's only flawed in the aspect that people think it is a godless process.

I certainly believe that He made His creation capable of environmental adaptation.

However, the theory that we all crawled out of the sludge and magically became everything that exists is, indeed, tremendously flawed, not to mention a ridiculous notion.
 
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I certainly believe that He made His creation capable of environmental adaptation.

However, the theory that we all crawled out of the sludge and magically became everything that exists is, indeed, tremendously flawed, not to mention a ridiculous notion.

You raise an excellent point. To accept evolution, not only would you have to believe all life came from primordial sludge, you would also have to believe that dinosaurs turned into birds and ape-like creatures turned into humans. While I believe that micro evolution is possible (e.g. dogs turning into other types of dogs), the idea of macro evolution (meaning one species turning into another species) just isn’t credible. Indeed, the creation of life is too perfect to be a random process.
 
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Some Christians think that you must believe every part of the Bible, including the creation narrative in the Book of Genesis, is infallible to be a true Christian. That is, you must believe the universe, Earth, and humanity were created in six 24-hour periods, otherwise they think you’re not a true Christian.

Other Christians have accepted evolution science. Unlike atheists, though, most of these Christians believe God guided the evolutionary process, that it was his tool for creating humans. Many creationists think this type of Christian who accepts evolution cannot be considered a true Christian.

What do you think? Do believers have to accept the creation narrative in Genesis to be a true Christian? Or do you think otherwise?
The complication (such as why you may have posted your question) is when one digs into what it means that someone believes in Jesus. If you believe in Jesus in your heart then you are saved (John 3:16). If you reject Jesus' words, you reject him.

There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. (John 12:48, 1984 NIV)

Then Jesus cried out, “When a man believes in me, he does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. (John 12:44, 1984 NIV)

The important factor on Judgment Day is, did you genuinely believe God was real and Jesus died to pay for your sins, and was Jesus really your Lord (in your heart, which would result in you choosing to obey him and acting on that [and probably being thankful for him saving you]).
 
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Some Christians think that you must believe every part of the Bible, including the creation narrative in the Book of Genesis, is infallible to be a true Christian. That is, you must believe the universe, Earth, and humanity were created in six 24-hour periods, otherwise they think you’re not a true Christian.

Other Christians have accepted evolution science. Unlike atheists, though, most of these Christians believe God guided the evolutionary process, that it was his tool for creating humans. Many creationists think this type of Christian who accepts evolution cannot be considered a true Christian.

What do you think? Do believers have to accept the creation narrative in Genesis to be a true Christian? Or do you think otherwise?

To think that a day is a 24 hour period in the eyes of God...is silly to a True Christian who believes in the creation narrative in Genesis.
 
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John 1:3 - All things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.

This is the introductory passage in how John introduces the true deity of Jesus. So it is to say that being a creationist is in fact...what Christianity includes. Because when God said..." Let there be Light "...it was the very Word of GOD...aka...JESUS...that brought on that Light. All things were created by and FOR.....Him.

He is the Creator. Not the evolutionist.
 
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You raise an excellent point. To accept evolution, not only would you have to believe all life came from primordial sludge, you would also have to believe that dinosaurs turned into birds and ape-like creatures turned into humans. While I believe that micro evolution is possible (e.g. dogs turning into other types of dogs), the idea of macro evolution (meaning one species turning into another species) just isn’t credible. Indeed, the creation of life is too perfect to be a random process.

Perhaps it was all designed from the ground up to get us exactly here.
 
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To think that a day is a 24 hour period in the eyes of God...is silly to a True Christian who believes in the creation narrative in Genesis.
A day according to Scripture has a morning and an evening. Mornings and evenings exist because there is a sun and the earth rotates once every ... 2 billion years? I think not. Scripture is consistent that it is what we consider a normal day.

God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. (Genesis 1:5, NASB)

Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years; and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also. God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good. There was evening and there was morning, a fourth day. (Genesis 1:14-19, NASB)

The phrase is also in Genesis 1:8, Genesis 1:13, Genesis 1:23, Genesis 1:31.

Something not in Scripture is how the nature of time has changed since the creation. Scientists will tell you it hasn't always been the same.
 
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YES. A Christian must believe in the power and purpose of God [Jesus] to create space, time and matter: the heavens and the Earth.
To create a living planet filled with a vast array of living organisms, creatures, marine life, animals, birds, reptiles, mammals,
creepy things ...
And we human beings are the jewels in the crown - body, heart, mind, and soul > biology, emotion, intellect, spirit.
It is all about us. This world at present is a nursery, a place for the creation of billions of new souls that inhabit human bodies.
Our lives on Earth are just the beginning of a wonderful journey into the future eternities when we take on immortality and are
forever with God.

To deny Creation is to deny God and the Word of God. To call God a liar. To declare that God cannot do the things that He clearly
states that He has done and is more than capable of doing.
As a Pentecostal saint who experiences the power of God through miracles and healings and much answered prayer, I know
with all certainty that Jesus is able to create life just as easily as He recreates and heals the lives of sinners.

Do not be deceived by the previous world of dinosaurs and their sudden destruction. This is a great spiritual lesson for those who
have eyes to see, and wisdom to understand such.
The destruction of the dinosaurs and the creation of a new world with mammals is to show us how Jesus can end one world and
recreate a new world to suit His purposes.
It is a parable of what is to come to our world. It will end suddenly, and be recreated to suit a new way of life.

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Revelation 21:1
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwells righteousness.
2 Peter 3:13

Evolution is the child of unbelief, and atheism. Jesus would have no pleasure in any Christian subscribing to this doctrine.
 
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Some Christians think that you must believe every part of the Bible, including the creation narrative in the Book of Genesis, is infallible to be a true Christian. That is, you must believe the universe, Earth, and humanity were created in six 24-hour periods, otherwise they think you’re not a true Christian.

Other Christians have accepted evolution science. Unlike atheists, though, most of these Christians believe God guided the evolutionary process, that it was his tool for creating humans. Many creationists think this type of Christian who accepts evolution cannot be considered a true Christian.

What do you think? Do believers have to accept the creation narrative in Genesis to be a true Christian? Or do you think otherwise?

Be a Christian only received a passing grade, which is not good enough. "Believe" in what Genesis 1 said, gives you more credit. Believe in evolution would take some credits from you, depends on how much does a Christian believe in that erroneous idea.
 
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