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Do you get Drunk in the Spirit?

IOWLBNIF

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here's a youtube vid more in line with my idea and my experience with drunk in the spirit.

Happy HolyGhost People speak in tongues, dance in the Spirit and praise the Lord - YouTube


what I refered to as sloppy drunk is what the girl in jeans does while dancing where the people catch her to prevent her from falling to the ground. You object to the term, I see why you do, I don't agree for the reasons I give, but the main point is the action, not so much what one calls it.




this video is still not from God my friend......it loses all credibility when i hear people start going


"ali ba bab ab ab lalaldl aheiaiahh hahh allllllllllllll righty then"



thats not "speaking in tongues" nor are they following the structure (order) of how the Bible lays it out, even if they were........which again they arent



nor is speaking in tongues prove if your born again or not.......(as the last part of the video suggests)



This is not of God
 
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this video is still not from God my friend.
just your opinion,
IOWLBNIF said:
.....it loses all credibility when i hear people start going


"ali ba bab ab ab lalaldl aheiaiahh hahh allllllllllllll righty then"
like if I said "heder heder heder heder heder," it couldn't possibly be a language right? Wrong, that was norwegian for "Glory glory glory glory glory". just cause something isn't complicated or repeditave doesn't mean it's jiberish. Some languages involve clucking sounds, And you are definitely not a linguist, Besides it's just your own biased opinion, not mine, and I rather go by my opinon than someone elses.
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thats not "speaking in tongues" nor are they following the structure (order) of how the Bible lays it out, even if they were...
Just your opinion, my opinion is based on my experience with God in being baptised in the holy Spirit and speaking in Ton gues. you don't have the experience to base your opinon on, so it means nothing. I have the experience.
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.....which again they arent
The only reason you have given to condemn anything is just your unsupported opinion. you are the only one in the universe that goes by your opinon.

it really affects my spirit positively. To each his own. It's only natural that someone opposed to speaking in tongues would likewise be opposed to other manifestations of the Spirit such as laughing in the spirit, dancing in the spirit , shouting for joy, leaping for joy, singing in the spirit , and drunk in the spirit.etc. Most people, or maybe it's many people, on my side of the camp, the tongues speaking side of the camp, have no problem with such manifestations of the Spirit.

ONe has to have been baptised in the Holy Spirit before one can ever possibly accept any of those manifestations of the Spirit. That's the dividing line.
 
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So something false affects your spirit positively?
It's just your opinon that it's false, I'm not going by others opinons.

IOWLBNIF said:
Then you need to check what spirit your operating in my friend....
We all need to check what spirit we are operationg in. WE are in two different planets in the christian world, those that speak in tongues (my world) and those who reject the baptism of the Holy Spirit (Your world).

Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

I have received the Holy Spirit since I believed.

Acts 19:5-6 And when they heard this, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

the holy spirit came on them after they had been baptised in Jesus name, not before not when they got saved. they were already saved. So get baptised in the holy Spirit, get some experience being filled with the Holy Spirit, then talk to me about getting drunk in the spirit, Your opinon will bevastly different then. .

Lots of people in your camp don't even think pentecostals are chirstians, whereas Most pentecostals ocnsider nonpentecostals to be chirstians. those who are out further in the spirit , such as pentecstals who are being regularly filled with the spirit, are always being misunderstood by those who aren't there. That is the case with us.

You say i need to check what spirit i am of, well I say just like Paul,, "I would that you IOW spoke in tongues"

1 Corinthians 14:5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.


hint" ye all' includes you IOW. beins as I'm from the south I understand the meaning of y'all. just one advantadge of being from the south.

IOWLBNIF said:
Oh, How the Earthy things reveal the Heavenly Things
being drunk on wine (an earthly thing) reveals heavenly things.

Ephesians 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

being drunk with wine (an earthly thing) is likek being filled with the Spirit ( a Heavenly thing).

so follow your own advice on this one.

nor is speaking in tongues prove if your born again or not.......(as the last part of the video suggests)
well they are wrong about that. speaking in tongues is a sign of the baptism of the Holy spirit, it comes after salvation. most pentecostals don't believe speaking in tongues is necessary for salvation.

you really have 2 choices. either you believe that we are experiencing manifestations of the Holy Spirit, in which case you would have to admidt to yourself that we are experiiencing things with God that you are not. That is what led you to the other chooice that you chose.
 
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We all need to check what spirit we are operationg in. WE are in two different planets in the christian world, those that speak in tongues (my world) and those who reject the baptism of the Holy Spirit (Your world).
You are so correct to say two different places in the "CHRISITAN world", and hopefully everyone can ACT like a Christian this time and keep the mods drinking coffee. :thumbsup:

I checked, and the spirit I picked up on in the video you posted was good. :) It even had me smiling as I watched it. But then it also reminded me of things I too have experienced that were similar.

I get the impression that the earlier Kenneth Hagin videos did bother you though? Is that correct? For me they required a bit more discernment, but I suppose that in the 'wine world', there's a 'physical' difference between being 'tipsy' and being down right 'drunk'. David dancing naked before the Lord in front of the people...now I'd say that boy was 'spirit DRUNK'. And, most likely, you aren't going to see that in a fundamental or Pentecostal church, I'd say. :D
 
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You are so correct to say two different places in the "CHRISITAN world", and hopefully everyone can ACT like a Christian this time and keep the mods drinking coffee. :thumbsup:
I was good. But if I put down my initial thoughts and reactions, I would have been kicked out of CF a long time ago. hey maybe even jail time.
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I checked, and the spirit I picked up on in the video you posted was good. :) It even had me smiling as I watched it. But then it also reminded me of things I too have experienced that were similar.
Me too, except for me it was a very low key version of what I'm use to.
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I get the impression that the earlier Kenneth Hagin videos did bother you though? Is that correct? For me they required a bit more discernment, but I suppose that in the 'wine world', there's a 'physical' difference between being 'tipsy' and being down right 'drunk'.
It seemed to me that Mr. Hagen's purpose was to get drunk, and nothing else. My impression is that he wanted a manifestation of the spirit, but nothing too intense or long. So he opened up to the spirit in that area, and the Holy Spirit obliged him.
To me getting drunik in the spirit is a result not a goal. It should be that one praises God the biblical way and if one gets drunk in the spirit doing it fine, if one doesn't fine. To me he's putting the cart before the horse and ignoreing the horse. Lots of pentecostal churches are indestinguishable from say a baptist church. Lots of pentecostal churches you won't even hear anyone speak in tongues or very rarely. The stoicism that prevades all of Christendom is sneaky and most people are totally unaware of how stoic thier church services are. Most pentecosttal churches try and be stoic and also allow the spirit to manifest, thus they have 2 opposing forces at work against each other, and they are in my estimation totally unaware that this is going on. That's why Mr. Hagen only allows drunk in the spirit for a b rief time, the rest of the time, which is most of the time, his service is indistinguishable from an average baptist church service. Other churches such as the one in my video are tilting more in the direction of spiritual manifestations, and freedom in the spirit, yet that church too manifests stoicism at the same time the holy spirit manifests freedom. A totally free in the spirit church does not exist , in my estimation, . On one extreme you have the frozen chosen, the ultra stoic, on the other extreme you have and extreme minority where great freedom in praising God the biblical way exists, and in between is where the vast majority of churches are. I don't think hardly any one realizes the devistating influence of stoicsim in the christian church.

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David dancing naked before the Lord in front of the people...now I'd say that boy was 'spirit DRUNK'. And, most likely, you aren't going to see that in a fundamental or Pentecostal church, I'd say. :D
Well I don't believe David was naked, I believe the scripture says he was in his underwear. As to whether he was drunk in the spirit it's anybody's guess.
 
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