Is there anything in the Bible or about God that you personally disagree with? For example, Christians who believe evolution deny a literal Genesis. Is there anything you don't believe to be true?
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Do you disagree anything?
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Personally, I guess not. I don't believe I necessarily understand it all the way its supposed to be, but I have faith in it. Its what I use to measure how I see other things, so you can't just pick and change really. I think its all true, but I still think that I don't have the full picture to work out why it says what it does in some places.. if that makes sense..
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Hmm, nothing comes to mind. I've been confused about a few things, such as Judas dying two different deaths, but I deny nothing at all from the Bible; it's a volume written by the Creater of everything. I would not dare to deny.
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I don't believe the bible is literal so some of the stuff I disagree with includes the Genesis creation story, the worldwide flood story, etc. I also have a different view regarding heaven/hell than most Christians who visit this section.
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Hello Umaro,
You said:
"Is there anything in the Bible or about God that you personally disagree with? For example, Christians who believe evolution deny a literal Genesis. Is there anything you don't believe to be true?"
There are some things that I don't like, for example, unbelievers spending an eternity in Hell (I don't think that God likes it either!). I mean, I understand that through their sinfulness and rejection of God that they send themselves there (that is, they will get what they are asking for through their actions - life without the life-giving source which is God), but it breaks my heart to think that people who I care about or anyone at all could end up there.
I also don't like what humanity will go through in the End Times when God will judge them for their sinfulness and rebellion. Even with all that suffering that they will go through they will still choose to reject God (the only One who can save them) in favour of the demons who are causing all the destruction and death. That is truly ashame and very wicked.
All of that sad, I believe that these things are true and will come to fruition.
You see, I believe the Bible to be God's revelation to man, so for me to tell God that He's got it wrong on any issue is very arrogant and in a very real sense calling God a deceiver and a liar at worst or stupid and incompetent at best.
Have a good day or evening (or whatever it is where you are).
Kind regards,
Delta 62.
You said:
"Is there anything in the Bible or about God that you personally disagree with? For example, Christians who believe evolution deny a literal Genesis. Is there anything you don't believe to be true?"
There are some things that I don't like, for example, unbelievers spending an eternity in Hell (I don't think that God likes it either!). I mean, I understand that through their sinfulness and rejection of God that they send themselves there (that is, they will get what they are asking for through their actions - life without the life-giving source which is God), but it breaks my heart to think that people who I care about or anyone at all could end up there.
I also don't like what humanity will go through in the End Times when God will judge them for their sinfulness and rebellion. Even with all that suffering that they will go through they will still choose to reject God (the only One who can save them) in favour of the demons who are causing all the destruction and death. That is truly ashame and very wicked.
All of that sad, I believe that these things are true and will come to fruition.
You see, I believe the Bible to be God's revelation to man, so for me to tell God that He's got it wrong on any issue is very arrogant and in a very real sense calling God a deceiver and a liar at worst or stupid and incompetent at best.
Have a good day or evening (or whatever it is where you are).
Kind regards,
Delta 62.
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I believe that the Bible is true, front to back. There may be things that make me uncomfortable or things I wish the Bible didn't teach, but I will always defer to the authority of scripture.
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I disagree with some people's understanding of God, and some people's reading of the bible, on quite a few issues.
But that's not the same as "disagreeing with the bible". To treat Genesis 1 as history (in the modern sense) is as silly as treating Song of Songs as reciepe for fruit cake.
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Now heres the interesting thing. All of you claim to believe the Bible to be completely truthful, yet I'm fairly certain there are many things you all disagree on between each other. Why is it that the beliefs and God always coincide with the will of the believer?
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Well, it's the same as science: there is obviously one truth, but there are different theories as to the workings of that one truth. Those different theories don't make the truth any less than it is, obviously. There isn't really a fault in the bible, just a fault in understanding.
It's simple.
For the most part, christians hold onto what they can clearly interpret and debate on that which may have a different meaning. There's nothing evil about it, it's merely seperating tradition from truth and finding the real meaning by use of reason. If we didn't debate and constantly test what is true, we'd just be zombies clinging to a blind view that could possibly be wrong, and that doesn't make and sense.
It's simple.
For the most part, christians hold onto what they can clearly interpret and debate on that which may have a different meaning. There's nothing evil about it, it's merely seperating tradition from truth and finding the real meaning by use of reason. If we didn't debate and constantly test what is true, we'd just be zombies clinging to a blind view that could possibly be wrong, and that doesn't make and sense.
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Read the posts more carefully. I think you are assuming more than people are saying. You are writing as if you have an agenda to blast people, but they have been completely honest about times they have misgivings. Please respect this.
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Umaro-
No, because He is all knowing and knows me more than myself. The Bible is the Word of God. I live under the authority of it.
Some people live above it - thinking they know more than God because of pride; some people pick and choose what they want from it - like its a cafetaria because they live in the flesh; and some live under the authority of it because it is rightfully the Word of God. I choose the latter - because I don't know more than an all knowing God.
I get my "feelings" in line with the Bible because all other feelings don't matter concerning eternity.
No, because He is all knowing and knows me more than myself. The Bible is the Word of God. I live under the authority of it.
Some people live above it - thinking they know more than God because of pride; some people pick and choose what they want from it - like its a cafetaria because they live in the flesh; and some live under the authority of it because it is rightfully the Word of God. I choose the latter - because I don't know more than an all knowing God.
I get my "feelings" in line with the Bible because all other feelings don't matter concerning eternity.
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In addition, I don't think I answered that question myself. I believe the bible fully, yes, but I also believe that there is a poetic aspect that conveys something more than a literal translation. For example: I believe the "dawning and evening" of "days" in genesis refer to periods of progress, and I also believe that the "fires" of hell indicate something much more than physical fire, but is only compared to fire by what it must be like. I could be wrong, I always keep that thought in my head.
I don't think we should start knitpicking the difficulties of the bible, rather strive to understand them. In reading various books by rabbis, I think high rabbinical culture fell into this trap. Eventually, to some of the rabbis I read, God became only the social interaction between people and the scriptures only a vague saga. It's dangerous to our spirituality to put our own thoughts into what this is or what that really means as far the bible goes. I've seen and actually feared for some fellow believers because of what they had concluded from the bible and how they actually were propagating their ideas to others. We should think it through, yes, but in the context of the bible. It all makes sense and has a purpose, I truely believe that, and we must strive to understand this purpose, not undermine it with our own thoughts or subsititutions.
I don't think we should start knitpicking the difficulties of the bible, rather strive to understand them. In reading various books by rabbis, I think high rabbinical culture fell into this trap. Eventually, to some of the rabbis I read, God became only the social interaction between people and the scriptures only a vague saga. It's dangerous to our spirituality to put our own thoughts into what this is or what that really means as far the bible goes. I've seen and actually feared for some fellow believers because of what they had concluded from the bible and how they actually were propagating their ideas to others. We should think it through, yes, but in the context of the bible. It all makes sense and has a purpose, I truely believe that, and we must strive to understand this purpose, not undermine it with our own thoughts or subsititutions.
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