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Do You Compromise?

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I'm wondering,
Concerning Christianity, will you compromise your beliefs in order to attend or be a member of a church?

How important is a particular denomination to you and why is it important?

How important are your beliefs to you? Would you give up a denomination and church altogether if you could not find one that shared your beliefs, entirely?

I am very interested in how firm others stand on their beliefs, not being willing to compromise,
or
what things, in particular, they are willing to turn a deaf ear to in order to attend church.

Thanks for your replies.
Blessings.
 

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I used to love a church that I went to, but couldn't see myself changing my views on certain things. But, the more I have read the Bible and have gotten to know God, my views have been changing by themselves.

For example, I didn't think I would be wholly against abortion, I always believed poeple should have the choice, and of the time wasn't right, they should be able to terminate. But now I see that the baby was created and we shouldn't just abort them because we might have to change our way of living.

I think people can change the more you get to know God. But, if you don't agree with a certain subject, then you can't pretend to. It will just drag you down.
 
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I used to love a church that I went to, but couldn't see myself changing my views on certain things. But, the more I have read the Bible and have gotten to know God, my views have been changing by themselves.

For example, I didn't think I would be wholly against abortion, I always believed poeple should have the choice, and of the time wasn't right, they should be able to terminate. But now I see that the baby was created and we shouldn't just abort them because we might have to change our way of living.

I think people can change the more you get to know God. But, if you don't agree with a certain subject, then you can't pretend to. It will just drag you down.

Thank you so much for your reply. God bless :)
 
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I'm wondering,
Concerning Christianity, will you compromise your beliefs in order to attend or be a member of a church?

How important is a particular denomination to you and why is it important?

How important are your beliefs to you? Would you give up a denomination and church altogether if you could not find one that shared your beliefs, entirely?

I am very interested in how firm others stand on their beliefs, not being willing to compromise,
or
what things, in particular, they are willing to turn a deaf ear to in order to attend church.

Thanks for your replies.
Blessings.


Hi sister,

Good questions and so relevant in our Church struggles today.



I found that The Word in Love - Living Word - matters more than The Word as explained by others or even myself.

Love the Lord your God with all Your Heart, all your Mind, and all your strength and your Neighbour as yourself - this is the rule - no other counts.

To hold onto one's beliefs is not the same as having faith - for Hebrews tells us that faith is in the unseen not the seen.

When I meet people who have faith and love in and for Jesus/God/The Word, themselves and others as themselves and are truthful, I know I have met fellow worshippers - regardless which Church they worship or if they worship in a Church at all.

If not, then such people would still be children of One Father, but they don't necessarily know this like I do - so loving them truthfully would be the way I would communicate with them - rather than denying them the right to believe what they do or are as they are - there is no compromise necessary like this - for they are them and you are you - both valid in your own right - for God made you both and gave you both a freewill.

Honest, I feel it is best to love others as you would them love you - not that you get full return back from people, but our Heavenly Father does bless such a lot and such is very best in life.

His love and goodwill alive inside our hearts - rather than stubborn opinions - unbending rules - judgemental feelings - or ostracising behaviours - giving us or others a hard time - as traditionally Christians have caused unbelievable suffering across The Globe doing that



All the best with this.


Gerry:wave:

please check this


Is 65:1-7

"I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me;
I was found by those who did not seek me.
To a nation that did not call on my name,
I said, 'Here am I, here am I.'
All day long I have held out my hands
to an obstinate people,
who walk in ways not good,
pursuing their own imaginations-

a people who continually provoke me
to my very face,
offering sacrifices in gardens
and burning incense on altars of brick;

who sit among the graves
and spend their nights keeping secret vigil;
who eat the flesh of pigs,
and whose pots hold broth of unclean meat;

who say, 'Keep away; don't come near me,
for I am too sacred for you!'
Such people are smoke in my nostrils,
a fire that keeps burning all day.

"See, it stands written before me:
I will not keep silent but will pay back in full;
I will pay it back into their laps-

both your sins and the sins of your fathers,"
says the LORD.
"Because they burned sacrifices on the mountains
and defied me on the hills,
I will measure into their laps
the full payment for their former deeds."
 
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Hi sister,

Good questions and so relevant in our Church struggles today.



I found that The Word in Love - Living Word - matters more than The Word as explained by others or even myself.

Love the Lord your God with all Your Heart, all your Mind, and all your strength and your Neighbour as yourself - this is the rule - no other counts.

To hold onto one's beliefs is not the same as having faith - for Hebrews tells us that faith is in the unseen not the seen.

When I meet people who have faith and love in and for Jesus/God/The Word, themselves and others as themselves and are truthful, I know I have met fellow worshippers - regardless which Church they worship or if they worship in a Church at all.

If not, then such people would still be children of One Father, but they don't necessarily know this like I do - so loving them truthfully would be the way I would communicate with them - rather than denying them the right to believe what they do or are as they are - there is no compromise necessary like this - for they are them and you are you - both valid in your own right - for God made you both and gave you both a freewill.

Honest, I feel it is best to love others as you would them love you - not that you get full return back from people, but our Heavenly Father does bless such a lot and such is very best in life.

His love and goodwill alive inside our hearts - rather than stubborn opinions - unbending rules - judgemental feelings - or ostracising behaviours - giving us or others a hard time - as traditionally Christians have caused unbelievable suffering across The Globe doing that



All the best with this.


Gerry:wave:

please check this


Is 65:1-7

"I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me;
I was found by those who did not seek me.
To a nation that did not call on my name,
I said, 'Here am I, here am I.'
All day long I have held out my hands
to an obstinate people,
who walk in ways not good,
pursuing their own imaginations-

a people who continually provoke me
to my very face,
offering sacrifices in gardens
and burning incense on altars of brick;

who sit among the graves
and spend their nights keeping secret vigil;
who eat the flesh of pigs,
and whose pots hold broth of unclean meat;

who say, 'Keep away; don't come near me,
for I am too sacred for you!'
Such people are smoke in my nostrils,
a fire that keeps burning all day.

"See, it stands written before me:
I will not keep silent but will pay back in full;
I will pay it back into their laps-

both your sins and the sins of your fathers,"
says the LORD.
"Because they burned sacrifices on the mountains
and defied me on the hills,
I will measure into their laps
the full payment for their former deeds."


You have a good heart and spirit. Thank you.
I'd like to ask though, are there any core beliefs (you don't need to say WHAT :)) of yours that could prevent you from worshiping with others, within a congregation whose beliefs are different?
Thank you.
 
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You have a good heart and spirit. Thank you.
I'd like to ask though, are there any core beliefs (you don't need to say WHAT :)) of yours that could prevent you from worshiping with others, within a congregation whose beliefs are different?
Thank you.


I roughly I follow the apostle greed as guide line.


I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Maker of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, dead, and buried;
He descended into hell.

The third day He arose again from the dead;
He ascended into heaven,
and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost;
the holy catholic church;
the communion of saints;
the forgiveness of sins;
the resurrection of the body;
and the life everlasting.
Amen.
 
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I'm wondering,
Concerning Christianity, will you compromise your beliefs in order to attend or be a member of a church?


NO! Don't ever EVER do this!! Reference "drinking the kool-aid," as well as MUCH Scripture re: false teaching, itching ears, etc etc

OTOH, give people a fair hearing also. You might learn a lot, even if you don't join their particular Church. Making an app't to speak w/ the leader is a good idea.

It's really up to the Lord to plant us in a home Church :groupray:
 
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Jeshu: side question: in the apostle creed you say that , " he will come to judge the quick and the dead..." who is the "he" referring to?

Religious Girl: bold post. Thank you for sharing something so difficult.

Change beliefs to attend a church?
communion - would not change
trinity - would not change
christ is the messiah - would not change
baptism by emmersion - would not change
scripture - God-breathed.

outside this, most does not matter as long as it is in accordance with scripture.

What kind of beliefs are you wondering if people change?

Edouard.
God give us a discerning heart.
 
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Jeshu: side question: in the apostle creed you say that , " he will come to judge the quick and the dead..." who is the "he" referring to?

Religious Girl: bold post. Thank you for sharing something so difficult.

Change beliefs to attend a church?
communion - would not change
trinity - would not change
christ is the messiah - would not change
baptism by emmersion - would not change
scripture - God-breathed.

outside this, most does not matter as long as it is in accordance with scripture.

What kind of beliefs are you wondering if people change?

Edouard.
God give us a discerning heart.

I was wondering about things such as you mentioned, for example.
I'm curious how strong beliefs are to others.....like the baptism by immersion. Some would not find that an issue. (I'm glad you do).
 
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Not only baptism by immersion, but some get all bent out of shape by either in the name of Jesus, or in the name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost.

We have Scripture to steer us away from endless quibbles - but that would make over 1/2 of CF dry up and blow away (LOL)

1 Cor 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified."
 
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Jeshu: side question: in the apostle creed you say that , " he will come to judge the quick and the dead..." who is the "he" referring to?



Jesus Christ The Word teaches is The Judge of all Mankind - seeing He paid the price for all our sins - He knows best who His killers are and have been the wicked tormentors Good and True Life - He also knows who His children are and who cared for them out of the love placed into their hearts by Him. The Truth is He knows the lost, imprisoned, captivated and killed sons and daughters of God very, very well, this is our comfort in both life and in death. (Revelation 1, 7, 20 & 21 explains this good I thought.)

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NO! Don't ever EVER do this!! Reference "drinking the kool-aid," as well as MUCH Scripture re: false teaching, itching ears, etc etc

OTOH, give people a fair hearing also. You might learn a lot, even if you don't join their particular Church. Making an app't to speak w/ the leader is a good idea.

It's really up to the Lord to plant us in a home Church :groupray:

Yes, thank you so much.
(Oh, yes, the koolaid :( )
 
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Not only baptism by immersion, but some get all bent out of shape by either in the name of Jesus, or in the name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost.

Ah, I actually have a thread about the importance of the names.
'Baptism, How?'

This IS one thing some have strong beliefs about.
 
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Silly, ain't it? Smiling, the guy who Baptised me told me he would do it "in the Name of the Father, the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, in the Name of Jesus," just so all bases were covered and nobody could object. (LOL) And I STILL encountered one Pastor who had to cause a fuss about it!?! ROFL
 
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