Do you believe that pride is a bad thing?

[Deidre32]

Just wondering. I think I have a problem with pride, but there are times when it can be a positive thing, and other times, it can ruin relationships. I know that Christianity teaches that it is sinful to be prideful. It is also considered one of the seven ''deadly sins,'' so it must be bad. lol

How do you view it?

 

[catholichomeschooler]

Just wondering. I think I have a problem with pride, but there are times when it can be a positive thing, and other times, it can ruin relationships. I know that Christianity teaches that it is sinful to be prideful. It is also considered one of the seven ''deadly sins,'' so it must be bad. lol

How do you view it?

Pride is the root of all sin. It is placing yourself and your desires above others.

This is different from justifiable approval of one's own actions, which could also be described as pride. There is nothing wrong with feeling good about doing a good deed.

 

[Deidre32]

Pride is the root of all sin. It is placing yourself and your desires above others.

This is different from justifiable approval of one's own actions, which could also be described as pride. There is nothing wrong with feeling good about doing a good deed.

Being a former Christian, I don't believe in sin like I once did. But having said that, I see that at times I've let it hurt my relationships.

I don't know how to change it.

 

[catholichomeschooler]

Being a former Christian, I don't believe in sin like I once did. But having said that, I see that at times I've let it hurt my relationships.

I don't know how to change it.

Personal sin and the awareness of how we are interconnected is often a pathway to God.

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[catholichomeschooler]

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[True Scotsman]

Pride is the root of all sin. It is placing yourself and your desires above others.

This is different from justifiable approval of one's own actions, which could also be described as pride. There is nothing wrong with feeling good about doing a good deed.

What's wrong with placing yourself and your goals above others?

 

[catholichomeschooler]

What's wrong with placing yourself and your goals above others?

It leads to sin. We should treat others as we want to be treated.

If we think we are superior to others, and our goals are more important than theirs, then we are more likely to hurt others.

 

[True Scotsman]

It leads to sin. We should treat others as we want to be treated.

If we think we are superior to others, and our goals are more important than theirs, then we are more likely to hurt others.

I still don't understand why placing my own life and goals higher than the goals of others will hurt anyone if I recognize that their lives and goals are more important to them than mine are to them. Why should someone else's goals come before mine and why must there be a conflict.

 

[catholichomeschooler]

I still don't understand why placing my own life and goals higher than the goals of others will hurt anyone if I recognize that their lives and goals are more important to them than mine are to them. Why should someone else's goals come before mine and why must there be a conflict.

I made my point. Reread my post.

 

[True Scotsman]

I made my point. Reread my post.

Thanks for answering. I really am not trying to pick a fight here. I'm genuinely curious and no one has ever given me a satisfactory answer. I don't believe there are any conflicts of interest among men who don't demand the unearned from each other. Self interest does not mean you have to hurt others and that is my point in asking the question.

For instance a whole bunch of people put their lives and goals ahead of mine when they chose not to come over and cut my weeds which I've been too busy to get to. But, I don't expect others to put my good ahead of their own plans. There's no one hurt in that scenario.

 

[catholichomeschooler]

Thanks for answering. I really am not trying to pick a fight here. I'm genuinely curious and no one has ever given me a satisfactory answer. I don't believe there are any conflicts of interest among men who don't demand the unearned from each other. Self interest does not mean you have to hurt others and that is my point in asking the question.

For instance a whole bunch of people put their lives and goals ahead of mine when they chose not to come over and cut my weeds which I've been too busy to get to. But, I don't expect others to put my good ahead of their own plans. There's no one hurt in that scenario.

More likely.

If we think we are superior to others, and our goals are more important than theirs, then we are more likely to hurt others.

 

[True Scotsman]

Just wondering. I think I have a problem with pride, but there are times when it can be a positive thing, and other times, it can ruin relationships. I know that Christianity teaches that it is sinful to be prideful. It is also considered one of the seven ''deadly sins,'' so it must be bad. lol

How do you view it?

To answer your question deidre, there's nothing wrong with feeling legitimate pride. It is your payment to yourself for a job well done.

 

[True Scotsman]

More likely.

If we think we are superior to others, and our goals are more important than theirs, then we are more likely to hurt others.

Who said anything about being superior to others? I'm not saying that. But at the same time why should I hold my own life as inferior to the lives of others? I'm sure you hold your own life as a higher value than mine and that doesn't hurt me in the least. Even if I lived next door to you it makes no difference. I don't expect anyone to put my good ahead of their own.

 

[catholichomeschooler]

Who said anything about being superior to others? I'm not saying that. But at the same time why should I hold my own life as inferior to the lives of others? I'm sure you hold your own life as a higher value than mine and that doesn't hurt me in the least. Even if I lived next door to you it makes no difference. I don't expect anyone to put my good ahead of their own.

You should read more carefully before responding.

 

[Deidre32]

To answer your question deidre, there's nothing wrong with feeling legitimate pride. It is your payment to yourself for a job well done.

Well, how it plays out in my life is in dating situations. I have a hard time compromising and such. If I'm honest, that's probably a bad "form" of pride.

Does pride have different forms?

 

[True Scotsman]

You should read more carefully before responding.

Perhaps. I don't see what I missed. You haven't explained why we are more likely to hurt others. You've just asserted it. I'm trying to get to the fundamental reasons you have for believing that having pride could lead to hurting others.

What about being more likely to hurt ourselves out of a fear of showing legitimate pride in our accomplishments because others might not approve?

 

[Deidre32]

It leads to sin. We should treat others as we want to be treated.

If we think we are superior to others, and our goals are more important than theirs, then we are more likely to hurt others.

Even if I don't believe in sin as I once did, there are consequences to being chronically prideful. I'm experiencing a loss of a relationship now over it and I probably could salvage it if I were to put my pride aside.

You and I think differently and also the same on this lol

 

[Deidre32]

Perhaps. I don't see what I missed. You haven't explained why we are more likely to hurt others. You've just asserted it. I'm trying to get to the fundamental reasons you have for believing that having pride could lead to hurting others.

What about being more likely to hurt ourselves out of a fear of showing legitimate pride in our accomplishments because others might not approve?

Pride though for me isn't about accomplishments. I'm speaking more in terms of maybe admitting when I'm wrong, etc...

What do you feel about that side of pride?

 

[catholichomeschooler]

Even if I don't believe in sin as I once did, there are consequences to being chronically prideful. I'm experiencing a loss of a relationship now over it and I probably could salvage it if I were to put my pride aside.

You and I think differently and also the same on this lol

No matter what we believe, it is very difficult to swallow our pride, especially when we are right!

 

[ALoveDivine]

Yeah pride is a bad thing. Why?

Because every breath we take is by the mercy of God. Every beat of our heart is an undeserved gift of divine grace. Pride is self-exaltation, the only one we are to exalt is God who gives us all things, including our very being.

Everything is beautiful, everything is a miracle, everything is here only by the gracious will of God who is the author of the whole universe, the intricacies and beauty and order of existence testifies to his divine authorship. To know this, and then exalt your self, is the height of blasphemy.

Pride is the idolatry of self.