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You have misinterpreted the scripture. It's about taking communion when you are in sin.
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You have misinterpreted the scripture. It's about taking communion when you are in sin."Murder" is your misnomer. . .God judged them with sickness and death so that they will not be finally condemned with the world.
How did Calvin get into this?
Don't blame 1 Corinthians 11:28-32 on Calvin. He didn't write it.
Sinners do not have free will; they are enslaved by the addictive power of evil. They are constrained from choosing righteousness, not by GOD but by the natural consequence of putting themselves under the power of evil. Since they have no free will, HIS constraints upon their sin are against their enslaved will, not their free will.So when the Holy Spirit 'constrains us' what then ?
NOT if HE had promised them election to salvation before the foundation of the world.A RIGHTEOUS God should have destroyed Adam and Eve THAT DAY just as He said.
NOT those whom Christ had promised by election to die for before the foundation of the world. Jn 3:18, believers (elect) who sinned and lost their faith are never judged but those who never believed (reprobate) are condemned already.A JUST God should damn all of us and spare Christ.
Indeed... HIS election promise of salvation was indeed part of HIS loving mercy.It is a MERCIFUL God that extends the gift of grace (UNMERITED FORGIVENESS) to anyone at all,
Isn't scripture wonderful??? !!!it is a Sovereign God that WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOMEVER [HE WILL] HAVE MERCY, AND WILL SHOW COMPASSION TO WHOMEVER [HE WILL] SHOW COMPASSION.
So my free will to choose holiness is contingent upon another's eternal life suffering in hell?? I don't think so.because if He only allowed people who love Him to be produced it would be just like the people were robots God wants people who love Him because they want to love Him not because that is the only possibility.
Our ability to choose does NOT prove our wills are free because we constantly choose between evils. The ability to choose any of every option in the choice proves a free will and unreborn sinners are not free to choose righteousness...they do not have a free will.We change our decisions, that is what free will is all about.
Sinners do not have free will; they are enslaved by the addictive power of evil. They are constrained from choosing righteousness, not by GOD but by the natural consequence of putting themselves under the power of evil. Since they have no free will, HIS constraints upon their sin are against their enslaved will, not their free will.
When we are reborn and our free will is restored to be trained in righteousness, if we are constrained it is by the permission implicit in our accepting Him as our saviour, granting Him our free will permission to do anything He needs to do to sanctify us.
And you know this how?because if He only allowed people who love Him to be produced it would be just like the people were robots God wants people who love Him because they want to love Him not because that is the only possibility.
"Murder" is your misnomer. . .God judged them with sickness and death so that they will not be finally condemned with the world.
How did Calvin get into this?
Don't blame 1 Corinthians 11:28-32 on Calvin. He didn't write it.
Are you sure about that?You have misinterpreted the scripture.
No, it's about sinning when you take communion in a sinful manner.It's about taking communion when you are in sin.
RIght, so it's not about God killing people who might sin. It's about communion like you said and people taking it in sin.Are you sure about that?
No, it's about sinning when you take communion in a sinful manner.
The sinful manner being without recognizing the meal as a sacred event proclaiming the Lord's death until he comes
(1 Corinthians 11:26), and eating the bread like it was an ordinary meal, which was sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. (1 Corinthians 11:27-29).
< sigh >RIght, so it's not about God killing people who might sin.
It's about communion like you said and people taking it in sin.
How did you get that God kills people from that text?
The passage doesn't say any of that. Can you show me where it does?The "judgment" is sickness and death (falling asleep) so that they will not be finally condemned with the world.
Are you paying attention?
See post #136.
< sigh >The passage doesn't say any of that. Can you show me where it does?
I think it's you that doesn't understand the passage. It says nothing of God intervening and killing potential sinners.< sigh >
When you show me specifically what you do not understand in post #136.
Non-responsive to my request to show me what you do not understand about my post #136.I think it's you that doesn't understand the passage. It says nothing of God intervening and killing potential sinners.
It talks about the natural consequences of living in sin. Where are you getting your information? It's not from the passage. You can't cut and paste the passage to say what you want it to say. You have to look at the entire context of thechapter.
He was talking to a CHurch where people continued in sin and he talks about the consequences of that. Saying GOd kills potential sinners is a stretch at best.
No sir, they have free will but from the knowledge learned in the sanctification process, Heb 12:5-11, they will never, ever, use their free will to chose to sin again. Just like the Trinity has a free will but will never use their free will to choose sin and the holy, elect angels have a free will but will never, ever, use their free will to choose to sin!Right - so the elect surrender their free will to Him...
How does God make a promise to an uncreated Adam before the foundation of the world?NOT if HE had promised them election to salvation before the foundation of the world.
I already did. You just have no response. I told you what the verses indicated and you cannot prove otherwise.Non-responsive to my request to show me what you do not understand about my post #136.
Please Biblically demonstrate my misunderstanding of the passage 1 Corinthians 11:28-32.
But you didn't demonstrate how I got it wrong according to the texts, you only asserted it.I already did. You just have no response. I told you what the verses indicated and you cannot prove otherwise.
How does God make a promise to an uncreated Adam before the foundation of the world?
God’s election before the foundation is 100% an internal GODHEAD thing.
If you need more help I am willing to help you.But you didn't demonstrate how I got it wrong according to the texts, you only asserted it.
Biblical assertion without Biblical demonstration is without Biblical merit.
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