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Who else would be the parents of Cain and Abel besides Adam and Eve?
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When you say Adam and Eve do you mean the parents of Cain and Able?
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Reply deleted.Secular museums teach that the earth is old. Yet, the Bible does not clearly teach that the earth is old but it suggests it is young in the fact that the creation was created in six literal (24 hour days), and the genealogies in the Bible can only be traced back to Adam over a span of thousands of years and not millions. There is no mention in the Bible of a large gap of time taking place (i.e. the Gap Theory), and there is no biblical warrant to change the six literal (24 hour) days into millions of years. It says, [evening and morning to define a day]. Even the keeping of the Sabbath for OT saints points back to the creation week.
Who else would be the parents of Cain and Abel besides Adam and Eve?
The plumber has just been. No central heating, but OK now.
You said:So, when you say about Adam and Eve do you mean the parents of Cain and Able?
I need to delete this but don't seem able.
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There was another Adam and Eve. they were earlier.
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Read Genesis chapter 4.No there wasn't another Adam and Eve. The Bible does not clearly teach that. Verses have to be twisted or contorted in order to make that silly idea true.
You can keep trying to rationalize AIG type ministries all you like but until you find a verse or passage that says we can be like that, then you got nothing biblical to stand upon but your own reasoning.
Yes, I believe the Earth was created in six literal days (with those days being 24 hours). I believe the Earth to be 6,000 to 10,000 years old approximately.
I believe Old Earth Creationism tends to hold to more liberal views or beliefs.
Eucumenism is one example. Another Old Earth Creation website (GodandScience.org) promotes a book on their website involving a Christian NDE (Near Death Experiences) (Note: The book was called: “Heaven is for Real”). Christian near death experiences attempting to explain Heaven or Hell usually turn out to be unbiblical. They are attempts at adding to God's Word and in creating subtle false shifts in our thinking the wrong way about the faith.
What is AIG please?
I'm the Old Time Religion.
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Now, I will admit, Noah's Ark museum (put forth by AIG) was impressive because it is a life sized Ark. They even mention Jesus and salvation in Him in the museum, and that was really good. However, they are still a creation focused ministry primarily in their focus involving their website, videos, conferences, etc.
Read Genesis chapter 4.
Verse 17 tells us they were building walled cities like Jericho. Walled cities were used for defense against other people and other nations. In the beginning there were no other people or nations.
Verse 20 tells us Jabal was the father of tent dwellers. Tents came long after cave dwellers. Early men were hunter gatherers and farming came later. Cain was a farmer and Able was a shepherd. This is a late development in the history of humankind.
Verse 20 tells us they were making musical instruments like the harp and organ, but early man did not have musical instruments.
And verse 22 tells us they were working in brass and iron.
This is the bronze age, not too far removed from our own.
Cavemen were not doing all that. Early man could not even make fire.
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So I take it you are opposed to Christian ministries that focus say on :
marriage
family
ethics in the work place from a biblical view
and all apologetics ministries that expose the errors of the cults.
Is your answer to these the same you have towards creation ministries? Just focus on the gospel instead?
But according to you we should not have people raised up to answer these people who would denigrate SCriptures! As you told me, just preach the gospel that should enough!
So let us not call adultery sin, or homosexuality sin or abortion sin- let us just preach the gospel!
Read Genesis chapter 4.
Verse 17 tells us they were building walled cities like Jericho. Walled cities were used for defense against other people and other nations. In the beginning there were no other people or nations.
Verse 20 tells us Jabal was the father of tent dwellers. Tents came long after cave dwellers. Early men were hunter gatherers and farming came later. Cain was a farmer and Able was a shepherd. This is a late development in the history of humankind.
Verse 20 tells us they were making musical instruments like the harp and organ, but early man did not have musical instruments.
And verse 22 tells us they were working in brass and iron.
This is the bronze age, not too far removed from our own.
Cavemen were not doing all that. Early man could not even make fire.
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I am against any church that focuses on one particular topic all too much that does not relate to our salvation... yes. While it is important to preach the truth on marriage, creationism, etc. these things are not the main goals and neither are they the main mission we are given. Preaching Jesus Christ, and salvation in Him is the main goal of our faith. Loving God and love others is our main goal. I do not think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that Creation ministeries is an oxymoron. The creation is not the main message we are to give to the world. Jesus is.
Sure, they mention Jesus, but it's like 10% Jesus and 90% creation.
I am not negating that we should preach against sin and or false beliefs. But what is a person's main focus? If a person preaches against sin but they leave out Jesus they are preaching moralism. If a person preaches against sin and very rarely preaches the gospel very often or salvation in Jesus very often, then they are not concerned in reaching new souls for Jesus. Yes, the call of the gospel includes God choosing to salvation by a belief of the truth and a sanctification of the Spirit (2 Thessalonians 2:13). But this is a part of salvation in Christ. It's a call of the gospel.
"The Stone Age began about 2.6 million years ago, when researchers found the earliest evidence of humans using stone tools, and lasted until about 3,300 B.C. when the Bronze Age began." LINKThere is no such thing as cavemen. You have been going to too many secular Science museums.
Maybe you should go to their websites. They openly praise and preach the gospel and exalt Jesus s God king and Savior! They do not exclude the gospel at all! They openly preach it often in their seminars ( I have attended), their website, and in debated!
They are teaching people the truth of SCripture that has been under assault from within and withou tthe church for a long time and has produced much harm to the church and the world! I just don't understand why you are against these folks and th ework they do?
Are you against a history teacher focusing on history?
I have taught in Bible college for years. I have specific subjects and focus on that subject and almost never mention the gospel, unless the class is on presenting the gospel. Are those wrong?
They are paid to do scientific research and report on it and they do as well as liberally give a clarion call for salvation! When you are on your job- are you focused on what you are supposed to do? or are you busy preaching the gospel because your job is not directly related to the gospel.
Should we bandon research and study of creation from a scientific perspective because it doesn't focus directly on evangelizing with teh gospel according to you?
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