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I also seem to recall Scripture calling the Church the Body of Christ.
It only seems strange because you are confusing the literal sense with the figurative sense.
Let's be sensible.
Mary is the mother of Christ the man--not Christ the Divine --He was the Son of God looooong before Mary. The divine has no earthly mother. Christ is equal with God--Mary is not equal with Christ, and certainly not with God--it's not even remotely possible. Again, as a chosen vessel of God to have carried the human son of God and raised Him to manhood demands a position of high respect--not adoration. She raised the human, God raised the divine.
There is a problem with the statement in bold text in the quote. Mary gave birth of one person, the Lord, and he is both a man and God. Mary's relative, Elizabeth, said "Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord." So even before the Lord was born he was recognised by Elizabeth as being the child of Mary.
Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
Why does this make me feel like saying a Hail Mary?
I reckon it is because it is in the hail Mary
Most of the hail Mary is from the first chapter of saint Luke's gospel.
"Hail, full of grace. The Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women." said the angel in verse 28.
"and blessed is the fruit of your womb." said Elizabeth as the Holy Spirit filled her.
And finally the authors of the Marian prayer added the word "Jesus"
And the short petition "Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death".
I was being slightly facetious there
There is a problem with the statement in bold text in the quote. Mary gave birth of one person, the Lord, and he is both a man and God. Mary's relative, Elizabeth, said "Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord." So even before the Lord was born he was recognised by Elizabeth as being the child of Mary.
Of course they're in the same body---but Christ the Divine Son of God existed way, way , way before there was a Mary, she did not give birth to that!! She is in no way equal with God, never will be! Christ was both divine and human, yes, but she couldn't give birth to the Divine that always was. She is not the mother of that one--He is the begotten Son of God, not of Mary. He did not loose that divinity in her womb, it was always there, she was the vessel for the reborn Christ, not the mother of the divine!
There is no "they" about the person of Jesus Christ, it is "he" who was born not "they. And no, it is not true that "Christ" existed before he was born of Mary, it is God the Son who is eternal, Jesus the Christ was born in time, the son of Mary, in Bethlehem when Herod the Great was king.
All the talk about Mary being equal to God in the quote above stems from not rightly stating the doctrine of the incarnation. What we see in the quote is Nestorianism. An ancient heresy advanced by Nestorius, Patriarch of Constantinople. Nestorius was Patriarch from 428 AD until 431 AD. His teaching emphasises the disunion between the human and divine natures of Jesus Christ. That's just like the doctrine we see in the quote above.
I may be wrong but I think that the Seventh Day Adventist church rejects Nestorianism.
Probably a good reason to read more of the early church fathers and less EGW. Might help in the understanding of the concept of Mother of God.Sorry--never heard of Nestorius. In fact, never heard any SDA mention that name. either.
Probably a good reason to read more of the early church fathers and less EGW. Might help in the understanding of the concept of Mother of God.
Sorry--never heard of Nestorius. In fact, never heard any SDA mention that name. either.
The concept is an ancient one which usually goes by the name of "motherhood". The only difference with Mary's motherhood of Jesus the Son of God is that He existed before taking on flesh from His mother. Almost everyone else only came into existence at the moment of their conception.What concept can make a human the Mother of a divine being that was always in existence?
She was and is His mother, not a surrogate mother, because if He did not receive His flesh from Mary then His flesh would not have been our flesh which He took to the grave and raised back to life. To deny Mary's motherhood is to deny His humanity and bring our salvation to nought.She was the mother in that she carried the eternal God in her womb--she was the surrogate mother.
If that was true then we would have no hope of the resurrection. By taking on "our" flesh from His mother Mary, He was able to destroy the hold that death had over all of humanity.It was her womb that housed Him, her blood that fed Him in her womb, it was not her egg and the sperm of God that created Him. Essentially, God implanted an embryonic Jesus in her womb--for want of better language.
The concept is an ancient one which usually goes by the name of "motherhood". The only difference with Mary's motherhood of Jesus the Son of God is that He existed before taking on flesh from His mother. Almost everyone else only came into existence at the moment of their conception.
She was and is His mother, not a surrogate mother, because if He did not receive His flesh from Mary then His flesh would not have been our flesh which He took to the grave and raised back to life. To deny Mary's motherhood is to deny His humanity and bring our salvation to nought.
If that was true then we would have no hope of the resurrection. By taking on "our" flesh from His mother Mary, He was able to destroy the hold that death had over all of humanity.
Of course she was His mother...biologically, not spiritually.
That's where the reality of her being His mother ends and the "concept of motherhood" "developes" into radical abstractions that turn scripture on its head.
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