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Do you agree that christians should keep the 10 Commandments? (4)

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I see you still insist we follow a set of rules and not the leading of the Spirit. Why is this?

I follow the set of rules according to the word of Jesus and His apostles because the Holy Spirit leads me that way
 
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Well done Sister Sheina.
 
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Please quote the post where I said there was no law.

I won't try to explain to God the justification of any sin. I have already past the judgement and have been granted life - Jn 5:24. I'm certianly not like the rich young man of Mat 19. Nor will I ever say to God I did thus and so. I will say Jesus and that is all I need to say according to the Bible I have and read.

I need to ask what you think burden is and what it means to the sabbath. What is the day of preperation? Isn't that serving the sabbath? I think so. One must abstain from purssing a livelyhood to keep from sinning on the sabbath according to the meaning and concept. Yet Jesus said the sabbath was created for man. Please note that I didn't say that, Jesus did. The day of preparation is indeed serving the day. I never said the sabbath day was burdensome, ever anywhere. The 7th day sabbath doesn't apply to me as a Christian. Or it wasn't given exclusively to the Israelites. If it is indeed given to everyone it can't be special or have sepecial significance to Israel as the Bible clearly states.
 
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Couple of things:

1st - The law doesn't bring condemnation of death. Death is only to those who break the law
What then is this ministration of death written on stone? The only thing I know of written on or in stone is the 10 Cs. Do you know of something else? The invitation to name any who has so accomplished this incredble feat besides Jesus (God) still remains to be filled for 6,000 years.
The law isn't something to cast away. It's something to be understood in it's proper light.
This is a double minded statement and denial of the Scripture Gal 4:30.

I agree to the second sentence with all that is within me.
 
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The Holy Spirit leads us to do whatever Jesus and His apostles teach. Its not a burdensome list of demands but a simple list that Gods Spirit helps us obey. Faith also has a command that we trust in Jesus and His words and doesn't throw out the other commandments Jesus and His apostles teach. We need faith, holiness and love to be complete and perfect and this is found in obeying the laws governing faith, love and holiness, the Holy Spirit leads us to obey them. Its very simple teaching and it isn't any more complicated than this.
 
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But those verses must not appear in Stryder's Bible. It simply can't be the truth and surely they don't mean what we think they mean.
 
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But those verses must not appear in Stryder's Bible. It simply can't be the truth and surely they don't mean what we think they mean.
find any scripture where circumcision is tied to salvation... It is Pharisee tradition, probably found in the Talmud..
 
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don't rightly know. Did mommy or daddy ever punish you for lying or was it God because of the law you subscribed to? Probably didn't even know what the law was before your first lie.
 
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So, since you believe that the Holy Spirit teaches you to do what the Apostle's teach, why do you consistently insist on clinging to the bondwoman (law) when the Apostle said to cast the bondwoman (law) out? Is the teacher not to be obeyed in this instance?
 
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For some reason, I am not sure you do. The Apostle Paul taught that the Law is not for the righteous (those in Christ), yet you keep insisting it is.
Luke 1:6
And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

When it comes to conviction of sin or even the condemnation because of continued sin in violation of the Law... Paul is right... it won't have the same effect.. for the sinner.. it looks mean and hard lined on the sinful lifestyle.................... but for those who are walking in accordance to the commandments as God reveals via His Holy Spirit.. it is righteous.. because God is right.. it is right living.
 
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find any scripture where circumcision is tied to salvation... It is Pharisee tradition, probably found in the Talmud..
Acts 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
 
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Luke 1:6 is pre-cross, and speaking of the Israelites who were required to follow the Mosaic Law.

Also, Luke 1:6 does not say they were righteous as a result of walking in the Law, only that they were righteous before God and that they were walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord, blameless.


Nice try though.
 
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Now all you have to do is find it in OT..
We are not speaking of the OT here. The Jerusalem Council was called because the legalistic Judaizers were ADDING works (circumcision and keeping the Law of Moses) to the Gospel of grace.
 
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Scripture does not even suggest that is was the way the Pharisees inerpreted the law. It is not modern day understanding but the written scripture kept in the full context of the full written of the scriptures.
 
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So this righteous is no longer...??

Psalm 119:142
Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.


Who magnified the Law... Who expounded upon it and gave it more depth.. aka from the letter of the law.. adultery ... to even include lust??

Isaiah 42:21
The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

Righteousness is that which is Right and God said that observing His Law is right.. IF God declares they are blameless, who are we to say they are not..

Deuteronomy 6:25
And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.

Psalm 119:172
My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.

It doesn't matter if you are circumcised or not... keeping the law is what counts.. especially via the Holy Spirit leading you in which is the weightier or more important at the moment..

Romans 2:26
Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

Romans 8:4
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
 
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For some reason, I am not sure you do. The Apostle Paul taught that the Law is not for the righteous (those in Christ), yet you keep insisting it is.


You misunderstand what Paul meant thats all. Paul beseeches, begs the gentile believers multiple times on different occasions to abstain from sin and adhere to the doctrine. Was it for nothing, was paul speaking into the air? The holy Spirit doesn't transform us over night we must learn, and we do it through the guidence of the HS from the word. Your definition of Pauls teaching seems narrow and full or error, it disregards commandments from Paul showing them in an obscure light. Paul made things very simple.

1Co 14:8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?
1Co 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
1Co 14:10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.
1Co 14:11 Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.

1Co 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
 
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