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If ye keep My commandments, ye shall abide in My love; even as I have kept My Father's commandments, and abide in His love.
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If ye keep My commandments, ye shall abide in My love; even as I have kept My Father's commandments, and abide in His love.If we love Him (heart), we will obey His commandments. Didn't He say that is how our love for Him will be shown? Right obedience comes out of love
If ye keep My commandments, ye shall abide in My love; even as I have kept My Father's commandments, and abide in His love.
So what is Paul talking about or trying to convey. A sermon on marriage is very out of place. Using marriage as an illustration isn't though.That is not what is said or meant there.
Really did the young man believe his efforts were in vain? He confidently said so what, Jesus I have done all these things and have life. He is clearly mocking Jesus. Yet he leaves with remorse knowing he failed at both making a fool of God and not securing eternal life.No. He spoke the truth. Paul confirm this.
Romans 10:5
For Moses writes about the righteousness which is of the law, The man who does those things shall live by them.
Galatians 3:12
Yet the law is not of faith, but the man who does them shall live by them.
Nope!
Jesus knew that this young man is keeping the law for self righteousness, he lacked the faith. Therefore, Jesus said, if he will be perfect, he must shows his love to his neighbor. And to have love, is to have first faith in the coming Savior as presented by the ceremonial laws, to come to Christ and be His follower.
No. He spoke the truth. Paul confirm this.
Romans 10:5
For Moses writes about the righteousness which is of the law, “The man who does those things shall live by them.”
Galatians 3:12
Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.”
Nope!
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Jesus knew that this young man is keeping the law for self righteousness, he lacked the faith. Therefore, Jesus said, if he will be perfect, he must shows his love to his neighbor. And to have love, is to have first faith in the coming Savior as presented by the ceremonial laws, to come to Christ and be His follower.
abt the color coding or being of the mind of Christ? iow if your not of the mind of Christ then you are still under a tutour..therefore fake it till you make it.I don't understand you.
You think Studious One presents some of the law as a requirement. Now that is funny.We're bound to the Lord and His word which includes NT teaching from the apostles. You tell us we can obey love thy neighbor but if we obey the commandment to abstain from fornication we're under the curse of the law. Its not logical on any planet in the universe.
If we love Him (heart), we will obey His commandments. Didn't He say that is how our love for Him will be shown? Right obedience comes out of love
You think Studious One presents some of the law as a requirement. Now that is funny.
Ah, an ignorance because you didn't know it. Never mind, you are forgiven. Why should he redeem those ignorant people who transgress his law? Burn them and create new instead. But he came and died to redeem them because he could not change his law; if he could change it, he didn't need to come and die. This truth affirms that he came to justify and glorify his law. Think deeper, dig deeper to the spiritual truth behind those mere wording.
Funny, Paul tells us that God took away the sting of death for those who trust His Son.
The sting of death is sin. Sin is a transgression to His law. What he took away is the sin, not His law. Are you so confuse that you couldn't comprehend those simple wording?
What ever happened to Mat 5:17Unbelieveable! So hard you tried to reject the truth, that you blindly says the word you say above. If Jesus didn't glorify the law with his life, he did sin, simple as that, and He failed to be our redeemer.
What do you make of this - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.There is no new law, the 10 Cs is the same law given to those before Christ and to those after the cross, for it just remain in it jurisdiction, as it is eternal, for the law is the transcription of God's unselfish love. Nothing wrong with the old letter of the law, as long you keep it with faith in Christ. Paul was the chief of sinners doesn't mean he remains in that condition.
Nope He came to fulfill the law, remember v 17. And in LK 24:44 Jesus He did just that.12 Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me. 13 Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, 14 I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Phil. 3:12-14.
Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified. 1 Cor. 9:26,27.
That is walking after the Spirit, to achieve the fulfillment of the righteousness of the law in him. (Romans 8:4).
We have wisdom and logic thinking, led by the Spirit.
Not necessary to be written in the Scripture, but Christ life and death glorify and justify the righteousness and eternal moral obligation of His law.
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven. Matthew 5:16. And the standard of good works is the law, the Ten Cs. If Jesus didn't glorify the law, He transgress the law.
Who are the first Christians? I think they were 100% bloodline Jews. This isn't enough to extablish Christian custom. They fully observed Jewish custom and law. It isn't like flipping a light switch.In Act 15 is not mentioned what is already a custom of Christian living, keeping the Ten Cs, for there was never in the apostles minds that this law ended at the cross. This is a believe that raised later on among Christianity, where the eat of the hoax of Satan. The Mosaic law is not a burden at all, the law of God would never be a burden, why should it be? The ceremonial laws pointed out to Christ, it is not a burden, it is a blessing for Israel to know their coming savior and put their faith in Him. You can read in Psalm how the author glorify the law. The same Paul had said: The law is holy, good and just! So, how it could become a burden? The Mosaic law just become a burden when some one tried to keep and obey it on his own strength, out of Christ. This what become the burden of Israel, seeking self righteousness which Paul is very much against it.
The Holy Spirit does and you say the law guides you.You really need the Spirit to guide you.
This is yet another unfounded and unsupportable accusation not pertinent to the discussion.I think I have presented the truth, supported by the Spirit. Only it is against what you believe, which unfortunately is against the Scripture.
Great question!!!The rest of the story from the "law keepers" version of the Scriptures:
Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by "keeping of the 10 commandments", that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Is this what it is REALLY supposed to say? However, this is the message that is coming across loud and clear by those who would put everybody back under the bondage to the OT law.
Yes Paul is serious....he states that we are saved by grace and kept by grace without the admixture of the OT law.
Here is the rest of the story from those who believe all are saved by grace through faith and kept by that same grace through faith...
Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Are you "transformed" by the "keeping of the OT law?
Nope incidence isn't obedience.Illogical. We can't say its good to obey love thy neighbor and not the rest that Christ and the apostles gave us. Are we a law keeper for obeying love thy neighbor? Yes we are.
Nope incidence isn't obedience.
Really did the young man believe his efforts were in vain? He confidently said so what, Jesus I have done all these things and have life. He is clearly mocking Jesus. Yet he leaves with remorse knowing he failed at both making a fool of God and not securing eternal life.
Jesus (God) would know a doer. It is simple, the Scripture clearly says there aren't any.
Really did the young man believe his efforts were in vain? He confidently said so what, Jesus I have done all these things and have life. He is clearly mocking Jesus. Yet he leaves with remorse knowing he failed at both making a fool of God and not securing eternal life.
Jesus (God) would know a doer. It is simple, the Scripture clearly says there aren't any.
The young fellow at least recognized within himself that something was still missing.. that "hole in the heart" part.This is what the young man said, it isn't clear that he's mocking. He was young and immature as we all are at one point. We grow in our walk with God and this young man is no different. The young man could have actually been asking Jesus what he lacked. Its not clear. But what is clear is that those commandments are reiterated by Paul when teaching the greatest commandment in Romans chapter 13. And the apostles teach them throughout the NT
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
If the rich young ruler believed that by obeying the commandments he would inherit eternal life, then why did he ask Jesus " Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?" (Matthew 19:16b) Was that enough to have eternal life? He told Jesus that he had kept the commandments from his youth. This young man KNEW he lacked something that kept him from inheriting eternal life, for he asked Jesus: "All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?" (Matthew 19:20b) When Jesus told him what he "lacked", did he "obey" Jesus and do what He what he was told to do? "But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions." (Matthew 19:22) Obviously he did not. And obviously, this young man was "coveting" his possessions. therefore he did not "obey all the commandments". He was also lying (bearing false witness) to Jesus.I don't think thats clear at all. But even if the man was mocking Jesus, was Jesus mocking the man when Jesus said "if thou will enter life obey the commandments"?
The young fellow at least recognized within himself that something was still missing.. that "hole in the heart" part.
If the rich young ruler believed that by obeying the commandments he would inherit eternal life, then why did he ask Jesus " Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?" (Matthew 19:16b) Was that enough to have eternal life? He told Jesus that he had kept the commandments from his youth. This young man KNEW he lacked something that kept him from inheriting eternal life, for he asked Jesus: "All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?" (Matthew 19:20b) When Jesus told him what he "lacked", did he "obey" Jesus and do what He what he was told to do? "But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions." (Matthew 19:22) Obviously he did not. And obviously, this young man was "coveting" his possessions. therefore he did not "obey all the commandments". He was also lying (bearing false witness) to Jesus.
Jesus was not "mocking the man", He was using the commandments to prove that the man was not obeying the commandments. In addition, Jesus was proving that "obeying the commandments" is not a man's "ticket to heaven".
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