Do we want to have a seperate Protestant Forum?

[d0c markus]

How about bible believers?

mwahahahaha

Nice work.

 

[mesue]

The baptists arent protestants by the way, that is if you buy into that hoopla

I am a true Baptist Protestant in the purest form of the word.
Protestant means a protester of the Catholic Church.
I was Roman Catholic. I left that church and became Baptist.

 

[daveleau]

I think it would be a good idea. A place where all Protestant denominations could talk.

God bless,
Dave

 

[jcright]

I am a true Baptist Protestant in the purest form of the word.
Protestant means a protester of the Catholic Church.
I was Roman Catholic. I left that church and became Baptist.

My friend, this kind of statement troubles me. Whether it's the Catholic's calling us Protestant or us calling ourselves the protestor, it's still an intentional intent to be antagonistic towards one another. Is that what we are really called to do? Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with Catholics on many points. However, assuming they are a Christian (as they should be assuming we are), I think it would be my responsibility to show where they are straying from the bible...just as it would be their job to show me where I am straying from the bible!

I find it interesting that we say we are protesting the Catholic church. I don't believe in speaking in tongues, but I don't call myself a protestant of the Charismatics. Why are we giving anyone unneeded attention (ie., our hatred, discontent, etc.)? You have now given them our focus which, by all rights, really belongs to God. I think I'd much rather put my attention on my walk with the Lord.

Allow me a moment, since I've alrady hijacked the thread, to wander to another idea. I didn't grow up in the Catholic church. I grew up in a Christian Science Church. If anything, that religion protests the Christian faith (in general, not just the Catholics). Btw, for those that don't know, Christian Science is a cult. Therefore, I'm not really breaking away from the Catholic church, I'm breaking away from a cult. So, now, why am I labelled a protestant? It's true that I firmly disagree with the Catholic church on many issues...but I did not break away from the Catholic church.

Permit me to explore another line of thought. By being protestant, we are considered breaking away from the Catholic church. This is, by the Catholics, not considered a good thing...which is why the term would have a negative connotation. We are now the rebellious ones, we may as well be a kin to the fallen angels because such is our disgrace. I wouldn't mind being called rebellious if I went against what the bible says, but I refuse to be the "bad guy" because I won't follow the Pope.

Alrighty, one last thought just because I can and I feel the need. I am not advocating peace between any denomination. I am, however, advocating the education of the Bible. I feel the bible outweighs that of anything else and we need to learn what it says to that we can adhere to it so that our walk with the Lord will be stronger.

I lied, one more thought. This for whoever pounced on my "bible believer" message with indignation. Baptists, typically, believe in sola scriptora. My understanding of the Catholic faith is that they don't believe in the bible alone...therefore, bible believer fits. However, to keep from ruffling too many feathers, perhaps I should amend it to read Bible ONLY believers.

 

[Thursday]

I lied, one more thought. This for whoever pounced on my "bible believer" message with indignation. Baptists, typically, believe in sola scriptora. My understanding of the Catholic faith is that they don't believe in the bible alone...therefore, bible believer fits. However, to keep from ruffling too many feathers, perhaps I should amend it to read Bible ONLY believers.

Hi Jcright - the reason I pounced on you is that setting one group apart as "Bible believers" is implying that the other group does not believe in the Bible. Sola Scriptura unites the Protestants, you make sense there.

 

[ZiSunka]

Wait, I have a question.

Is this new Protestant Forum an area here at CF or is it a separate website altogether?

 

[Gold Dragon]

I call myself Protestant for demographical clarifications and historical association. Obviously I still disagree with many Catholic practices, but I don't believe that the title "Protestant" is necessarily antagonistic towards the Catholic church, especially since Protestant-Catholic ecumenicalism is something that is important to me.

:bleechers: "Unite!"

 

[jcright]

Hi Jcright - the reason I pounced on you is that setting one group apart as "Bible believers" is implying that the other group does not believe in the Bible. Sola Scriptura unites the Protestants, you make sense there.

You are right. I didn't mean to imply that non-protestants don't believe in the bible.

Sola Scriptora unites...(not picking on your Thursday, just a general rant) It's that type of word that creates a battlefield where a classroom is more appropriate. I don't understand this need to "unite". Perhaps I'm weighing my thoughts too heavily on Matthew 10:34 "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Of course, I'm coupling this with 2 Timothy 3 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

How about a forum for training?

 

[jcright]

Do we want to have a seperate Protestant Forum?


What do you think?

At some point I suppose I should actually address the op...so:

What are the benefits of having a "Protestant" forum? Can we write what we feel is necessary to express our thoughts and opinions without being nervous of being warned?

What is wrong with how the system is already setup?

 

[SumTinWong]

At some point I suppose I should actually address the op...so:

What are the benefits of having a "Protestant" forum? Can we write what we feel is necessary to express our thoughts and opinions without being nervous of being warned?

What is wrong with how the system is already setup?

This was all started really because a poster in the theology section wanted information from "protestants" and asked that the Roman Catholics not respond to the question("Now, I'm looking mainly for a Protestant view on Catholicism - so as unfair as it sounds, I'm going to ask the Catholics to refrain from posting any answers in this thread simply because IF I want clarification on an answer I'm given in here, I will hop over to OBOB and ask for a response there"). Seventeen posts in, a Roman Catholic said "Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if Catholics post in this thread in response to comments made by non-Catholics, and I hope you will not be upset if that happens."

Why not think badily of them who do respond? They are not being courteous nor very Christian if they cannot respect someones wishes. This person is a possible convert to being a Roman Catholic, who wants answers from "protestants". If there are errors, and Lord be there were a couple, then that person said that they would go to OBOB to ask them himself. Now only a couple did respond out of the hundreds here so this is not a anti Roman Catholic issue, this is a manners issue.

She then decided to see if there was a way to have a forum where only protestants could chat with protestants and Roman Catholics could talk t over with Anglican, and Orthodox. They share many traits, and she thought that would be a good idea. I was and still am against it because it does nothing to bring "unity" to the forum it just divides us into one more little pocket of our own. The slogan for this website is:uniting all Christians as one body. In my opinion adding a futher seperation will not bring this unity it will just divide even more. Besides had the Roman Catholics stayed out of the thread this would not have been an issue. The poster asked very nicely that no Catholics answer the question and even said he would go to the OBOB to clarify anything he heard. I don't see why that was such a bad request and why that type of situation cannot be honored.

Just my two cents.
The original thread is here

What woud be the pluses? I cannot think of any. The minues, there would be yet another clique here at CF.

 

[Gold Dragon]

I was and still am against it because it does nothing to bring "unity" to the forum it just divides us into one more little pocket of our own. The slogan for this website is:uniting all Christians as one body. In my opinion adding a futher seperation will not bring this unity it will just divide even more.

I think if we were to group the individual denominational forums as subforums under two larger denominational forums

1. Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican/Tradition
2. Protestant/Sola Scriptura/Other

It would be bringing about unity relative to the denomational "ghettos" (Crazy Liz's term) that we currently have.

 

[GreenEyedLady]

I don't think they should change anything.
I like it just the way it is. As far as requesting for certian people to refrain from posting in a theology forum, your dreaming if you think they will not!
They do it in here sometimes. Its not just limited to one certian branch of churches either, I see it all over the forums.
I like the way things are now making up another forum for moderators to watch over would be too hard on them. Thier would probally be a crash in the database from all the reports that they recieved in one day with a board like that.
GEL

 

[jcright]

This was all started really because a poster in the theology section wanted information from "protestants" and asked that the Roman Catholics not respond to the question("Now, I'm looking mainly for a Protestant view on Catholicism - so as unfair as it sounds, I'm going to ask the Catholics to refrain from posting any answers in this thread simply because IF I want clarification on an answer I'm given in here, I will hop over to OBOB and ask for a response there"). Seventeen posts in, a Roman Catholic said "Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if Catholics post in this thread in response to comments made by non-Catholics, and I hope you will not be upset if that happens."

Why not think badily of them who do respond? They are not being courteous nor very Christian if they cannot respect someones wishes. This person is a possible convert to being a Roman Catholic, who wants answers from "protestants". If there are errors, and Lord be there were a couple, then that person said that they would go to OBOB to ask them himself. Now only a couple did respond out of the hundreds here so this is not a anti Roman Catholic issue, this is a manners issue.

She then decided to see if there was a way to have a forum where only protestants could chat with protestants and Roman Catholics could talk t over with Anglican, and Orthodox. They share many traits, and she thought that would be a good idea. I was and still am against it because it does nothing to bring "unity" to the forum it just divides us into one more little pocket of our own. The slogan for this website is:uniting all Christians as one body. In my opinion adding a futher seperation will not bring this unity it will just divide even more. Besides had the Roman Catholics stayed out of the thread this would not have been an issue. The poster asked very nicely that no Catholics answer the question and even said he would go to the OBOB to clarify anything he heard. I don't see why that was such a bad request and why that type of situation cannot be honored.

Just my two cents.
The original thread is here

What woud be the pluses? I cannot think of any. The minues, there would be yet another clique here at CF.

In that case, I don't see the point of opening new forums. If wishes were expressed and not honored, what makes anyone think that will happen with "dedicated" forums?

 

[SumTinWong]

I think if we were to group the individual denominational forums as subforums under two larger denominational forums

1. Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican/Tradition
2. Protestant/Sola Scriptura/Other

It would be bringing about unity relative to the denomational "ghettos" (Crazy Liz's term) that we currently have.

The problem with that formula is that the Lutherans are now out of the C/O/A. As are the Episcopals and the Methodists, all very litergical in their own right. I do not understand why the Anglicans are included anyway as they are seperate from the Roman see, so why would they be included? Shouldn't the Lutherans who are very negativley called Catholic lite be included as well then? What about Old Catholics and Traditional Catholics, where do they fit in?

I personally do not have very much of anything in common with a word of faith believer, and don't like the idea of being lumped in with them or their theology. Putting them in the same forum as me, would possibly lead some to believe that I believe what they believe.

See what I mean?

 

[Gold Dragon]

The problem with that formula is that the Lutherans are now out of the C/O/A. As are the Episcopals and the Methodists, all very litergical in their own right. I do not understand why the Anglicans are included anyway as they are seperate from the Roman see, so why would they be included? Shouldn't the Lutherans who are very negativley called Catholic lite be included as well then? What about Old Catholics and Traditional Catholics, where do they fit in?

Episcopals are Anglicans. Since Anglicans want to be in full communion with the Roman see, I think it makes sense to put them together.

Lutherans, while being liturgical, are clearly protestants and Sola Scriptura. Methodists are a little tricky but being puritan in origin, I think the they would identify with the Sola Scriptura crowd more than the Tradition crowd.

I personally do not have very much of anything in common with a word of faith believer, and don't like the idea of being lumped in with them or their theology. Putting them in the same forum as me, would possibly lead some to believe that I believe what they believe.

We post on the same forum in General Theology. Is that ever a problem there?

Anyway, I voted for "I could care less". So I don't want you to think I'm trying to push for this or anything.

 

[Iosias]

What do you think?

Absolutely no way!

 

[ps139]

The problem with that formula is that the Lutherans are now out of the C/O/A. As are the Episcopals and the Methodists, all very litergical in their own right. I do not understand why the Anglicans are included anyway as they are seperate from the Roman see, so why would they be included? Shouldn't the Lutherans who are very negativley called Catholic lite be included as well then? What about Old Catholics and Traditional Catholics, where do they fit in?

I personally do not have very much of anything in common with a word of faith believer, and don't like the idea of being lumped in with them or their theology. Putting them in the same forum as me, would possibly lead some to believe that I believe what they believe.



See what I mean?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Lollard again.

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[SumTinWong]

Episcopals are Anglicans. Since Anglicans want to be in full communion with the Roman see, I think it makes sense to put them together.

Really have you asked anglicans this? They told you that? As far as the Episcopals being Anglicans, I knew that, but they were not mentioned by name, and since they are obviously not as conservative (allowing a practicing gay Bishop) as the other sections, would they even be welcomed?

Lutherans, while being liturgical, are clearly protestants and Sola Scriptura. Methodists are a little tricky but being puritan in origin, I think the they would identify with the Sola Scriptura crowd more than the Tradition crowd.

Okay I will give you those two, but the majority of them believe in some form of real presence" and possibly even prayers to the saints, so they really don't fit in with either side then do they?

We post on the same forum in General Theology. Is that ever a problem there?

Yeah it can be quite embarrassing in there when that happens.

Anyway, I voted for "I could care less". So I don't want you to think I'm trying to push for this or anything.

I know. As far as being fair and without an adgenda you seem to be that guy I like that about you.

 

[SumTinWong]

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Smile when you say that. Oh you did, my bad Hi PS!

 

[BT]

I personally do not have very much of anything in common with a word of faith believer, and don't like the idea of being lumped in with them or their theology. Putting them in the same forum as me, would possibly lead some to believe that I believe what they believe.

See what I mean?

Ack! If you put me in with the WOF folks it would take about 3.5 hours for me to get banned!