Can anyone answer this for me.
One thing I don't get is that, how can Israel and the Church be seperate when Christ told the disciples to preach his gospel to both gentiles and Israel?
The bible makes it 100 % clear that the disciples were converting JEWS to JESUS.
WHAT exactly has changed after Christ death that is different from TODAY?
Why aren't we as Christians, doing exactly the same thing the disciples did 2000 years ago but instead preaching this new doctrine about not worrying about the Jews, let God deal with them in some future event?
Last i read, the bible doesn't say "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost EXCEPT THE JEWS"
There are still some groups that focus on evangelizing jews, but with the advent of dispensationalism and zionism, the church has played it'self as second fiddle to the jews. We are taught that we are a "parenthesis" whithin Gods working with the jews" and as a outlet for Gods love and kingdom that was rejected by the nation of jews. Thus, especially with Rothchilds taking on the name "Israel", many view and promote christians as second class citizens of Gods secondary kingdom.
Again, Daniel 7, the only way that 'theologians' and judaizers can see Daniel 7 as referring to end times Jews is to lift most of Daniel out of history and apart from Christ and apply them to "end of the world" times rather than "end of the age" or "end of the indignation" They put it in the future, thus applying 'saints of the most high" to jews of a future kingdom age, rather than to saints of the son of man... Christ the Creator/Redeemer/the Almighty. The angels explaination that the 4 beasts would be four successive kingdoms upon the face of the earth should indicate that this time period began with Daniels timeperiod and the 4th beast was the Roman empire.
2000 yrs ago, when Christ gave the Great commission, it was to Jewish believers who had the knowledge and history of the promised Messiah. They went to Jerusalem, then Judaea, Samaria and the uttermost parts of the world..... and all nations...
Nowdays, I think for Christians to share with Talmudic/Torah peoples requires alot of knowledge of what they believe and their hopes. There are many different groups and sects among the jews and they believe and want different things. Mostly, through being sewn with the seeds of men and beast, (Jer 31;27) they desire a world rule. To some, their Messiah is the teachings of the Talmud and the Kaballah; a philosophy; a teaching; a plan for self accomplishment. Those already have their "Messiah" in the teaching of the Rabbi's which twist Old testament passages to suit and fit their goals.
They do not recognize that the Old covenant promises have been revoked, canceled, nullified, and are no longer valid.
I'm not very knowledgable about the various groups of Jews, but I think Christ will continue to call jews out of judaism to Himself through his foreknowledge and election.
Again, Romans 11 seems applicable yet today, even though the old covenant is abolished. Provoking jews to jeallousy through displaying the fullness of the Spirit of Christ and by claiming and displaying the blessings of Abraham in Christ through the Holy Spirit seems as the method of evangelism that might be most effective.
As it is now, through the teaching of Zionism, many in the churches are becoming "jealous" of being Israelites or supporting Israel of the political state, thinking that their salvation or better life will happen at a future appearing of the Messiah for the Jews.
But he has already come in the flesh for not only the jews, but all nations, and rose from the dead; proving his dominion of eternal life.
