do we mistake ghosts for demons?

[d0c markus]

Twosid, I'm sorry that I forgot to answer you when you asked earlier, I've been sick with the flu and I guess I forgot. I'm also sorry that you got offended by my teasing you about your choice of the dictionary as a good place to check God's word. I've been on the other end of saying something that made more knowledgable theologians scoff myself. It's a learning process. I really thought you could handle it or I wouldn't have teased you.

But, do you really expect me to answer you after the abusive way you just spoke to me? Sorry, that would be rewarding bad behavior. Rephrase your question or you can forget about getting an anwer from me now. I know this is going to offend you even more than what I said earlier which offended you without my intention. But, When my children used to throw temper tantrums when I said "No" to them when they were 2 or 3 years old. I didn't give them what they wanted after their emotional outbursts either. I don't reward bad behavior. It sets a bad president. I want you to know that being nasty doesn't have a desirable payoff.

So please rephrase your question without suggesting wichcraft or board games, or whatever that last bit that I didn't understand was after. Or you can just know in your heart that there was one 40 year old Christian woman that didn't cringe and comply at your bullying.

How about me asking for you to cite your sources. I havent read the whole bible, but ive only read one "phyla" of angles named, i can be mistaken but i think its seraphim.

I dont have a problem with some angles being more superior and some less. But how do you come up with 9 distinctions?

Thanks, - Mark -

 

[d0c markus]

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[AcousticHxC]

Christians are subject to ghosts/demons as well. We have God and His angels protecting us, but if we pray and concentrate on God, that's obviously not going to make Satan happy. Chances are he'll increase his attacks and try to shake their faith. A lot of new believers wonder why life doesn't get easier, and turn back away from God. Satan knows that. I've also heard many stories of Christians who have witnessed ghosts and apparitions. I think it's very real, but although we need to be on guard, Christians don't need to worry about any harm coming to them from demons/ghosts. God has our backs.

 

[adam332]

9 phylas of angels?????

I only see Biblical evidence of ONE KIND of angel. Please show us in the scripture where we can find this separation of 9 phylas. If not in the holy word of God, then it comes from man and holds no value in a Biblical discussion.

 

[ydouxist]

I know there is are levels of demons for a fact. First hand and biblically. The angel that was sent to Daniel was delayed 21 days and required Michaels help in battling him "the prince of persia". The demon Jesus' disciples couldn't cast out. Jesus said don't leave but by "prayer and fasting". I've only had one refuse to come out. It took just that "prayer and fasting". The next day it left without argument.

 

[d0c markus]

9 phylas of angels?????

I only see Biblical evidence of ONE KIND of angel. Please show us in the scripture where we can find this separation of 9 phylas. If not in the holy word of God, then it comes from man and holds no value in a Biblical discussion.

i agree... show us

 

[adam332]

Doc,
I just noticed your other post. The angel which I'm referring to is Cherubim. I used to think there were two kinds and believed the other was Seraphim. But after studying the references I found that they were described the same and that the word seraphim was a descriptive word meaning "fiery ones" which again appears to be just a word which described a Cherubim.

The various references to Cherubims seem to vary, some places they have four wings and others they have six. That leads me to believe that the wings are symbolic, or that Cherubims can take different forms.

Either way the only one which seems sure to exist are Cherubims...anything else is extra-Biblical.

 

[chrissie]

....i am a christian, and i believe our house has got a demonic presence in it, and i am not mad!

As soon as i come in to the house i feel it, following me and a lot of really bad things have happened, and i know it's there, and i can't get it to go away,....and i am scared.

I told satan to go away, and i don't want to tell anybody what happened, all i can say is that i am more scared than what i have ever been in my life.

A few days ago i literally broke down after something horrible happened, and my mum heard me screaming from outside, and i told her about the voices (and she said that may be it's cos i am not eating proberly and not sleeping) and ok may be that can explain alot of it, but that can't explain the noices.

I have said to this thing, when i think it's there 'go away, and talking to God' tell him to go away'

A friend has told me that the only way that will work, is if you say 'in the name of jesus', 'i command you to leave' then it will leave, and i will try that!

I don't like to think i've brought this on myself, but i am really not coping with this very well, and i have been through a heck of a lot in my life but i don't think i have been so scared!

My question is , will it go away???

 

[d0c markus]

it will go away if you say it in faith, it also helps if you fast for a few days strengthen your conviction. Prayer helps, spend lots of time in prayer.

 

[messageport]

In my view, demonology has long been an under-developed area of theological teaching.

"And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness". (1 John 5:19).

The Bible warns about false and lying signs and wonders.

I've long thought that much of magic and memory of past lives may have been accomplished through demonic power.

"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect". (Matthew 24:24).

 

[ydouxist]

....i am a christian, and i believe our house has got a demonic presence in it, and i am not mad!

As soon as i come in to the house i feel it, following me and a lot of really bad things have happened, and i know it's there, and i can't get it to go away,....and i am scared.

I told satan to go away, and i don't want to tell anybody what happened, all i can say is that i am more scared than what i have ever been in my life.

A few days ago i literally broke down after something horrible happened, and my mum heard me screaming from outside, and i told her about the voices (and she said that may be it's cos i am not eating proberly and not sleeping) and ok may be that can explain alot of it, but that can't explain the noices.

I have said to this thing, when i think it's there 'go away, and talking to God' tell him to go away'

A friend has told me that the only way that will work, is if you say 'in the name of jesus', 'i command you to leave' then it will leave, and i will try that!

I don't like to think i've brought this on myself, but i am really not coping with this very well, and i have been through a heck of a lot in my life but i don't think i have been so scared!

My question is , will it go away???

We too had to anoint our home after we moved in. The daughter of the previous owners tried to commit suicide here twice. Call those spirits what you will but they like to stay where they familiar. When you anoint your home and COMMAND them to leave In the name of Jesus they have NO choice. It says in the Bible "One can put a thousand to flight two can put 10 thousand". Have another Christian pray over your home with you in agreement.

 

[chrissie]

...i'm scared!

where would they go to

 

[d0c markus]

hmmm...lol good question.

 

[ydouxist]

...i'm scared!

where would they go to

I don't know. I know where they eventually go. There's no reason for you to be afraid. They're the ones who fear Christians realizing their authority over them. It is really, really awesome when they submit to the Blood of Jesus. Our authority has already been given us. We just need to learn to walk in it.

 

[KennySe]

Chrissie,
The Peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

You should talk to your priest about these matters.

And just like going to a doctor for an opinion, if he doesn't address the problem, go see another doctor.