Do suicides go to hell?

[Messy]

Are there people who think that depression and the urge to kill yourself are the result of the devil's influence or something? I feel like I read that somewhere but my mental health drugs have pretty much fried my ability to retain information and killed my memory, so half the time I don't know if I'm just making stuff up or not.

Yes that's what I believe and I also believe he can use wrong medication. In my case the suicide attempt came directly through the prozac I got. I had suicidal thoughts, that was because of influence of the devil, but I never would have done it, because I have three small children and I just had a postnatal depression. They checked it and that was why the psychiater didn't take me serious when I said I now had the thoughts of immediately taking all pills at once and kill myself. He even doubled the dose and next day I did an attempt. So the devil could work better because of this drugs. It stood in the papers that it was a side effect. I have been on other medication for two years and I had the idea that it so altered my ability to make moral decisions and even make me lose my faith. I read it elsewhere, where a christian man says it's drugs.
By the way, you are wanted by God. God so loved the world.. Don't listen to the lies of the devil.

 

[TheJust]

Yes, suiciding will give you some time in hell, because the feelings you are killing yourself for will be multiplied many times in their intencity.

 

[Victory of the Cross]

I believe those who commit suicide go to hell, since they cannot repent for their sin. Which by the way, is murder. I don't follow the "once saved always saved" nonsense, people can lose their faith in Jesus, and save a small minority of people who truly have mental illness, those who commit suicide are slapping Christ in the face. It's not nice to think about but that's what they're doing.

Good to know Jesus appointed you a judge over people's salvation.. Wait he didnt, however he told us not to Judge.

Unless you can find a scripture in the Gospels where Jesus said they go to hell then I am not convinced and think its best we let Jesus words speak for him.

It must be Jesus himself, no church father or self endorsed prophet.

 

[Messy]

I believe those who commit suicide go to hell, since they cannot repent for their sin.

Why can't they repent for their sins? People can be saved very fast when they're dying. I'm not saying that this always happens, but it could be the case. Watch Glimpse of Eternity of Ian McCormack, an atheist who was saved very fast.

 

[Dre99]

Good to know Jesus appointed you a judge over people's salvation.. Wait he didnt, however he told us not to Judge.

Unless you can find a scripture in the Gospels where Jesus said they go to hell then I am not convinced and think its best we let Jesus words speak for him.

It must be Jesus himself, no church father or self endorsed prophet.

Excuse me did I judge? No, I simply stated my belief, you could call it my opinion, based on what I have read from scripture. I don't know if it's true or not that you go to Hell for suicide, nor did I claim to know. Messy poses a perfectly legitimate case that could counter my belief. I could be wrong.

The rest of my post, I stand by completely.

 

[Faulty]

I believe those who commit suicide go to hell, since they cannot repent for their sin. Which by the way, is murder. I don't follow the "once saved always saved" nonsense, people can lose their faith in Jesus, and save a small minority of people who truly have mental illness, those who commit suicide are slapping Christ in the face. It's not nice to think about but that's what they're doing.

Well, scripture states that hatred is a component of murder (Matt 5:22, 1Jo 3:5), and it also states that no one has ever hated himself (Eph 5:29).

Suicide isn't an expression of hatred towards oneself, but rather an extreme expression of self-love. If they actually hated themselves, they would enjoy all the pain that put them in the suicidal frame of mind in the first place. They want to remove themselves from their circumstances instead, what is deemed a "beneficial" act as they are seeking their ultimate good.

On another subject, you may want to invest some time in studying the parable of the sower. One of the groups are those who are the rocky soil, tho look genuine and endure for a while, but eventually fall away because they had no root (Matt 13:6). Jesus declares He is the root (Rom 15:12, Rev 5:5, 22:16). They had not root means they never had Jesus, meaning even though they may look like the real thing, they were never born again at any point. John restates this when he tells us that those who leave the faith went out from us because they never were actually one of us (1Jo 2:19), but those who are of us will always remain in the faith.

 

[Faulty]

The question wouldn't matter if I were, since I'm not a Christian!

Thanks for the insights, guys. It's interesting to me. But depression and other mental problems that lead to suicide could probably also lead someone to give up their faith (I've heard a lot of people wonder why God stopped loving them or if God doesn't exist when depressed) - if they no longer have faith in Jesus in them when they die, is that what sends people to hell?

I probably sound like a complete idiot. All those years of Catholic school never really taught us anything that complex, though.

I would prefer you were forgiven of your sins and reconciled to God. It is the only thing worthwhile and lasting.

 

[Dre99]

Well, scripture states that hatred is a component of murder (Matt 5:22, 1Jo 3:5), and it also states that no one has ever hated himself (Eph 5:29).

Suicide isn't an expression of hatred towards oneself, but rather an extreme expression of self-love. If they actually hated themselves, they would enjoy all the pain that put them in the suicidal frame of mind in the first place. They want to remove themselves from their circumstances instead, what is deemed a "beneficial" act as they are seeking their ultimate good.

I don't see the connection in Scripture stating hatred is a component of murder. And Ephesians 5:29 states no man ever hated his own flesh. The specification of flesh makes me think it's not quite saying what you claim it says. In any case, are you denying that suicide is murder? It doesn't matter what they think is beneficial, the spirit that puts the idea into their head is NOT a spirit of God.

On another subject, you may want to invest some time in studying the parable of the sower. One of the groups are those who are the rocky soil, tho look genuine and endure for a while, but eventually fall away because they had no root (Matt 13:6). Jesus declares He is the root (Rom 15:12, Rev 5:5, 22:16). They had not root means they never had Jesus, meaning even though they may look like the real thing, they were never born again at any point. John restates this when he tells us that those who leave the faith went out from us because they never were actually one of us (1Jo 2:19), but those who are of us will always remain in the faith.

Got it

 

[trulyconverted]

Matthew 27:5 "And throwing down the pieces of silver into the temple, he departed, and he went and hanged himself."

An example of suicide in the bible committed by the son of perdition, Judas Iscariot. Resulting in eternal perdition.

Can you see any (other) example of suicide in the bible that actually led to eternal life?

 

[Messy]

Matthew 27:5 "And throwing down the pieces of silver into the temple, he departed, and he went and hanged himself."

An example of suicide in the bible committed by the son of perdition, Judas Iscariot. Resulting in eternal perdition.

Can you see any (other) example of suicide in the bible that actually led to eternal life?

I only know examples of people with very depressed thoughts, who were helped out, like Elijah: he requested for himself that he might die; and said, It is enough; now, O Lord, take away my life
and Job who cursed his birthday.
Saul maybe.

 

[cessna153]

I think that committing scuicide is a major sin and you can go to Hell for it, because the Bible says that God sets a time for everything, a time for birth and a time for death. If you take your own life, which is a gift from God and on top of that you deny God from fulfilling his plan for your life, and deny him control over your life by basically saying "God I don't care about when you appointed my death, I want heaven now because this world is too much for me"

How do you guys think he'll feel about that?

 

[TheyCallMeDave]

Not sure where else to post this question, since most of the forums are restricted to Christians only but this is a subject I've been trying to learn about for quite some time and it seems that the answer is...a whole bunch of different things.

Some of the thoughts I've seen on the subject:

1. As long as you've accepted Christ, you're saved, even if you commit suicide.

2. Suicide is breaking one of the ten commandments; therefore; hell.

2b. Yes, it IS breaking one of the commandments, but, see #1.

3. Since people who commit suicide are likely mentally ill, they cannot fully understand their actions and are likely to be "pardoned" for them.

3a. Because of this they will go to heaven but "lose some rewards," whatever that means (hey, while I'm here, what DOES that mean? I see people say it a lot but I don't really understand it.)

4. There are no specific mentions of the consequences of suicide in the Bible, so there's no way to know.


So the answer seems to be a big honking "Yeah, we actually have no idea."

I was just wondering what y'alls' thoughts were on the subject and if there was an angle I haven't yet come across that you could enlighten me on.

Some biblical thoughts.....

1. There is ONLY ONE sin that God cannot forgive : The sin of never trusting in Christ for the forgiveness of all sins accumulated in a persons life. God sent his Son to die on a cross for this benefit . Reject that invitation and Hell is a guarantee sadly.

2. If a person is a genuine Christian , that is, is truly trusting in Christs finished work on the cross and ressurection, and takes his/her life in a moment of weakness and from Satans enticement, that Person will not go to Hell because he no longer has a sin debt in Gods eyes.

3. A Genuine Christian should never think that suicide is optional because it deeply offends God that such a person would take his life prematurely when God intended for that person to remain on Earth longer as an Ambassador to God . His work was not finished on Earth in Gods eyes. Plus, it shows great disrespect for the life and body that God gave the person. Death comes soon enough and God wants us to work thru out problems and issues with his guidance, wisdom, power, and love...and love from others .

4. Suicide is always a permanent solution to a temporary problem , and therefore, it is always a wrong poor choice in a moment of desperation and misery. The honorable thing is to take misery and learn and grow from it by allowing God to help you overcome it ; that is what a real soldier of Christ does . He is an Overcomer regardless of what is thrown at him.

5. It is highly inconsiderate to commit suicide because it hurts friends, family, and acquaintences in a deep emotional way. And these are the innocent Ones who dont deserve such treatment from someone they look up to and enjoy being with. It is also a poor example to those who are impressionable because it teaches them not to endure thru trials and instead , to take your own life as a 'remedy' .


Did that help at all ? I hope it did. Regards.

 

[MikeBigg]

Salvation is a work of God, not something we receive or maintain by our own efforts. God simply won't allow someone who is saved to lose his faith.

And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.
(Philippians 1:6 ESV)
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A person who has made a profession of faith but hasn't genuinely repents of his sins might lose his faith because he is was never saved in the first place.

Hebrews 6: 4-6 is interesting in this context:

It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance.​

Seems to suggest that falling away is possible, even for those who have experienced all that is mentioned in those verses.

 

[Zombieprincess1979]

the correct answer is NO. Whoever says otherwise is a very ignorant person. =)

 

[randyness]

THere is no unforgiveable sin

 

[randyness]

I agree with the zombie girl 100%, things you think you would never say

 

[food4thought]

First, let me clearly say that suicide is the most selfish act a person can commit. Thse who commit suicide leave others behind to feel sorrow and guilt over the persons suicide... "could we have done more?"; "Did I do something to push him along that path?"; etc. Suicides leave devestation in the hearts of those who loved them.

Still, I would say that the vast majority of suicides are by people who are not in their right minds. I have been depressed and delusional to the point that I contemplated suicide after renouncing my faith in Jesus... talk about not in your right mind!!! But something in my heart would not let me do that to my parents, who loved me. I truly believe that God was in my heart drawing me back from the edge even at that point. Fortunately, my heart won out over my mind and I never tried, even though there were several times I sat there with the shotgun in my lap thinking about it, and once I even had the gun in my mouth and the safety off!

God drew me back, but that doesn't mean that someone in a different situation might have their distorted minds win out over their saved heart. I believe that it is a horrendous sin, but all of a Christians sins, both past, present, and future, are forgiven at the moment they receive Jesus Christ. Their spirits/souls are transformed and born anew, a new creation. I am living proof that someone who is truly born again can go all the way to the edge, but not cross the line. I believe that if my parents had not been alive at that time I would have done it, because in my mind at that time they were the only ones who would be terribly hurt by it (although I know better now). So I beieve that it is possible for someone who is truly born again to commit suicide.

Now comes the question, particularly in my case because I actually RENOUNCED my salvation some time before seriously contemplating suicide... would I have been lost if I had went through with it? After all, the Bible does have some passages that indicate that it is possible for a believer to fall away. I have to say that I honestly don't know for sure, but I think I would have been lost because I had actually gone so far as to renounce my salvation before God. Thanks be to God that He did not let me go and brought me back not only from the edge of suicide but also from the depths of my despair and the power that my delusion had over me. I have since recommitted my life to Jesus, and I believe that He has forgiven me and is again active in my life.

But in most cases, I think it should be obvious from the fact that ALL our sins, even the ones we do after coming to Christ, are forgiven by God as we partake of the benefits of the cross by trusting in Jesus as our Savior and Lord. NO!!! I do not believe that people who commit suicide go to hell for that sin... there is only one sin that condemns to hell, and that is rejection of Jesus Christ as your Savior and Lord.

Paul writes about the blessed security the believer has at the end of Romans 8, and I will leave you with that:

Rom 8:38-39 NIV For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, (39) neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[food4thought]

Oh, and one more verse popped into my head regarding this... what if someone simply loses their faith in God before commiting suicide. Well, here is a verse for that as well:

2Ti 2:13 NIV if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself.

 

[NateDaGrimes]

actually if you just kill yourself you cannot enter heaven. its still a sin because its murder, " For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

answer is yes you can go to hell by suicide.. might as well live your life because suicide is not worth it.

 

[Dreamers]

I have browsed this site on and off for a few years but my first actual post is now. Our life is not ours to take. It is a sin to take our own lives. I have been in the pit of despair and depressed with thoughts of suicide, I was listening to the lies of the enemy. Through that though, I always prayed and did not lose faith. We all have different levels of faith, some even as small as a mustard seed.

If someone dies before they repent, they can go to hell. But, they may have had time before the last breath to cry out to Him. Only God knows our heart and motives and only He can judge and know where we will end up. I would not risk taking my life because I have the fear of the Lord and it would also cause much devastation to my family. It could even be a stumbling block for them and cause them to feel hopeless, creating a domino effect in many ways. However, even if we do something that is wrong or sin, He can turn it around to bring glory to Him. In some way..the bible says everything is for the glory of God. So, even in death He can use that to further anothers walk.

I don't believe in once saved always saved either. The bible does say our names can be erased from the book of life. If we were always saved it would not say that the name can be erased. There are many scriptures on the subject of losing salvation.

If someone is feeling suicidal I would hope they have the courage to seek help from someone who can help them through it. I know I was so embarrassed of feeling like that but God wants us to reach out for help. I got through it with support of family and by crying out to Him constantly. Life does get better. We all have our rough patches. My husbands feelings are that it takes more courage to live then to die. I was so mad at him when he said it, but now I agree and can see his view too.

If someone is thinking of suicide and doesn't follow through with it, then something is keeping them going and I like to think it is God that is keeping them goin'. He is with us all the time even when we don't feel it. Sometimes when we don't feel it, it can be a trial and a testing of our faith. He has a plan for everyone and wants all to be saved but He does give us free will to choose if we want to live or die.