Do scientists believe in unicorns?

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We have no evidence of the existence of unicorns, so no, most scientists likely don't believe in unicorns. A unicorn is a classic russel's teapot.

 

[AV1611VET]

We have no evidence of the existence of unicorns, so no, most scientists likely don't believe in unicorns. A unicorn is a classic russel's teapot.

And here I thought Narwhals were real.

 

[ChetSinger]

I think a "unicorn" was probably an everyday animal, such as a rhino. For example, nowhere in the scriptures is the animal given any special distinction, other than being named along with other everyday animals.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think a "unicorn" was probably an everyday animal, such as a rhino. For example, nowhere in the scriptures is the animal given any special distinction, other than being named along with other everyday animals.

As I understand it, and unicorn was some kind of animal like an ox.

A poor farmer, would use a mule; a well-to-do farmer would use an ox; and a rich farmer ... if he had the patience ... would try and use unicorns, but they were hard to deal with.

Job 39:9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

The unicorn were the "John Deere" of their time.

 

[ChetSinger]

As I understand it, and unicorn was some kind of animal like an ox.

A poor farmer, would use a mule; a well-to-do farmer would use an ox; and a rich farmer ... if he had the patience ... would try and use unicorns, but they were hard to deal with.

Job 39:9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

The unicorn were the "John Deere" of their time.

Hmm, I just looked it up in Strong's and stand corrected. Unicorns weren't listed with other animals but were noted for their strength and willfulness. A difficult-to-tame ox might fit. But I wonder if a rhino might fit, too, because the only picture of taming one is there in Job, and is spoken of as a challenge.

 

[Old Ned]

Well Av, that depends on several things.

Are we talking about a Unicorn that has magical powers and can only be captured by a virgin?
Or are we talking about the graceful woodland creature?
Or the one that can heal with poisoned water?

In any case I would have to say No. But your answers are too black and white.

Do Scientists believe in Unicorns?

Well most of them, no... some of them yes. (possibly)

Problem being is in most cases the unicorn has supernatural powers, so I would have to say that since Science examines and explains the natural world, then the vast majority of Scientists could not believe because there is no evidence and if there was then it would no longer be supernatural and would simply be a horse/goat type creature with a horn.

Also I wonder if you are edging towards a comparison to the Re'em from Job, Deuteronomy, Numbers, Psalms and Isaiah?

But to your black and white question and answers I would still say "No"

 

[AV1611VET]

Well Av, that depends on several things.

That's exactly what I thought.

Further clarification needed.

So you don't know if scientists believe in them or not, I take it?

Let me ask you this:

Do scientists believe in clouds? or do I need to clarify further?

Do scientists believe in Thalidomide? or do I need to clarify further?

But when it comes to unicorns ... no one can answer w/o further clarification?

I wonder why that is?

 

[Strathos]

BTW I agree with the Aurochs interpretation

 

[AV1611VET]

BTW I agree with the Aurochs interpretation

Interpretation of what?

I know you guys want to bring the Bible into this discussion; or the Hebrew tongues; or whatever.

Could be please not do that though?

I'm asking if scientists believe in unicorns?

You know ...

Is "unicorn" an official Linnaean designation?

Have fossils been found that have been called "unicorns"?

Are hippopotamuses or Narwhals or anything else known by scientists to be classed as "unicorns"?

In short:

Do scientists believe in unicorns?

If so, what is its binomial?

 

[Belk]

That's exactly what I thought.

Further clarification needed.

So you don't know if scientists believe in them or not, I take it?

Let me ask you this:

Do scientists believe in clouds? or do I need to clarify further?

Do scientists believe in Thalidomide? or do I need to clarify further?

But when it comes to unicorns ... no one can answer w/o further clarification?

I wonder why that is?

The same reasons you would need further information if the question was "Do Christians believe in U.F.O's abducting people". It is not a question that Christianity addresses so it is difficult to treat them as a monolithic block of like minds.

 

[AV1611VET]

"Do Christians believe in U.F.O's abducting people".

Yes.

 

[Belk]

Yes.

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[Split Rock]

I voted "yes," since there is an invisible pink unicorn living under my bed.

 

[Lord Emsworth]

My intangible pet hamster is a unicorn.

 

[durangodawood]

I voted "yes," since there is an invisible pink unicorn living under my bed.

A two dimensional invisible pink unicorn, of course.

 

[TillICollapse]

My intangible pet hamster is a unicorn.

Hey some people have used hamsters as unicorns.

 

[Old Ned]

I wonder why that is?

Well let me explain it.

Further clarification needed.

Yes, since there are different ideas as to what a Unicorn is.

So you don't know if scientists believe in them or not, I take it?

I said, the vast majority do not, but some probably do.
You can't expect a precise answer to a question that involves the opinion of millions of people.

Do scientists believe in clouds? or do I need to clarify further?

No, they do not believe in clouds because clouds do not require faith.
Do they believe clouds exist? Yes.
Which type of cloud are we now talking about though?
Clouds in the sky?
Storage clouds online?

In both cases the answer still stands, we can see and experiment with clouds in the sky and we invented storage clouds.

Do scientists believe in Thalidomide? or do I need to clarify further?

No, it does not require faith. Do they believe it exists? Of course, we made it.

But when it comes to unicorns ... no one can answer w/o further clarification?

Yes, because unlike clouds and drugs, Unicorns have only ever been written about, and written about by different cultures and with different descriptions as to what they are, no one has ever taken a picture of one, no one has ever filmed one, no fossils or remains have ever been found anywhere and there is nothing in the evolutionary chain that suggests such a beast, also they are not mentioned in the Bible as Unicorns. So there is absolutely zero evidence at all except in tales regarded as myths by pretty much every person on the planet including you!

Oh and your thing with Thalidomide, you frequently mention it, yes it was terrible, it was an awful mistake, one that will forever be remembered as such.
But the same company that produced it, also was the first to produce penicillin, so they are not all bad Av

 

[TillICollapse]

Well let me explain it.



Yes, since there are different ideas as to what a Unicorn is.



I said, the vast majority do not, but some probably do.
You can't expect a precise answer to a question that involves the opinion of millions of people.



No, they do not believe in clouds because clouds do not require faith.
Do they believe clouds exist? Yes.
Which type of cloud are we now talking about though?
Clouds in the sky?
Storage clouds online?

In both cases the answer still stands, we can see and experiment with clouds in the sky and we invented storage clouds.



No, it does not require faith. Do they believe it exists? Of course, we made it.



Yes, because unlike clouds and drugs, Unicorns have only ever been written about, and written about by different cultures and with different descriptions as to what they are, no one has ever taken a picture of one, no one has ever filmed one, no fossils or remains have ever been found anywhere and there is nothing in the evolutionary chain that suggests such a beast, also they are not mentioned in the Bible as Unicorns. So there is absolutely zero evidence at all except in tales regarded as myths by pretty much every person on the planet including you!

This reminds me of the chupacabra.

Some describe it as a beast standing upright, wings, glowing red eyes, soaking the blood of goats, etc.

Then, suddenly, in Texas ... people started seeing mangy coyotes everywhere. Someone shot one, kept the corpse. Another video taped one. I saw one myself early one morning (and I ended up seeing it a couple of more times over the next month). Suddenly, everyone attributed the chupacabra sightings and issue to mangy coyotes.

A lot of people agreed that is what they saw. Yet, it didn't fit a whole lot of descriptions of what everyone was saying a chupacabra is/was (which varied). Some still believe the chupcabra is more than mangey coyotes (I met a person who believed this the other day, actually) ... and conflicting descriptions by eye witnesses don't make it any easier for everyone to agree.

So is the chupacabra a mistaken mangy coyote ... or something else ? Why or why not ?

 

[Old Ned]

This reminds me of the chupacabra.

Some describe it as a beast standing upright, wings, glowing red eyes, soaking the blood of goats, etc.

Then, suddenly, in Texas ... people started seeing mangy coyotes everywhere. Someone shot one, kept the corpse. Another video taped one. I saw one myself early one morning (and I ended up seeing it a couple of more times over the next month). Suddenly, everyone attributed the chupacabra sightings and issue to mangy coyotes.

A lot of people agreed that is what they saw. Yet, it didn't fit a whole lot of descriptions of what everyone was saying a chupacabra is/was (which varied). Some still believe the chupcabra is more than mangey coyotes (I met a person who believed this the other day, actually) ... and conflicting descriptions by eye witnesses don't make it any easier for everyone to agree.

So is the chupacabra a mistaken mangy coyote ... or something else ? Why or why not ?

Yes I have followed the tales of the Chupacabra to some degree, seen many different images, from mangy dogs to an almost ape like zombie.

What always made me laugh is this thing only seems to feed on Goats blood, or sheep? something like that. So I never knew why it was scary.

But to your question, I think the Mangy coyote fits, the other descriptions could be a combination of fear induced hallucinations, possibly drug and/or alcohol influence, possibly the beast rearing up on it's hind legs, poor lighting.
The evidence to support some sort of blood driven demon is non existent outside of personal testimony.

The Mangy coyote is backed by not only eye witness accounts, but the bodies found, the majority of descriptions (dog like in some form) the fact these animals would attack goats and sheep etc and a rational thinking man would come to the same conclusion.

 

[TillICollapse]

So AV1611 ... what do you believe about the chupacabra and how would you determine what is true or not concerning it ?