StanJ
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Why so contrary you are?
Define what it means to be 'unfruitful'
This means not bearing fruit, in this case not bearing good fruit to God.
All those who do not bear good fruit will be cut down, and thrown into the fire.
This same verse in Luke 8 about that parable says it this way.
He did not bring forth fruit to maturity, meaning the fruit died, the fruit rotted, the fruit was inedible. None of that pleases God, they are in effect unfruitful to God.
Luke 8:14
Now the ones that fell among thorns are those who, when they have heard, go out and are choked with cares, riches, and pleasures of life, and bring no fruit to maturity.
" Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. "
BUT for the people of God, Jesus declares they will bear fruit and it will remain on their account to be rewarded at the judgment.
John 15
16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. 17 These things I command you, that you love one another.
And about fruit, those who abide in Christ have an abundance of good fruit.
They do not have itty bitty immature fruits as you teach. Oso really
The True Vine
15 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
Fruitless branches are thrown into the fire. Christ is our creator who made all things, all people. If your not found abiding in Christ, you will be cut down and thrown into the fire as a withered branch.
6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.
Persons who do not abide in Christ, have no part, right or claim to the TREE of LIFE, Christ, and will be cast off from God and burned in the fires of Hell.
The Bible is not based on your vernacular or your words, it has its own vernacular and its own words. As you continually use your own words and insert them into the Bible I will continue to disagree with you and show how you were wrong by what the Bible says. Now you're going off to a relevant scriptures that have nothing to do with the parable. Yes the Bible does interpret itself but on a particular subject with in context. You can't just plug verses and words out of context and use them to justify your own dogmatic point of view.
If you're not sure what the nkjv says then maybe you should use a modern functionally equivalent translation?
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