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I also want a pony. Does this mean someone is going to give me a pony? I want to fly. Does this mean someone is going to give me the power of independent flight?
No. It points at least as well to each of us being at the end of an incredibly long line of those successfully fulfilling a desire to live and to breed. Genes not supporting these characteristics tend to get eliminated by failure to live and reproduce.The fact that we don't want to die, this points to a creator. .
Well that's not true.Ephesians 5:29 For no one ever hated his own flesh...
Is it illogical for me to search for a magical flight-giver? You're conflating a bunch of different things and what you're saying makes no sense.No sir, it doesn't. However, we want to understand all the mysteries of the universe, but does that mean we will? No, but we search anyway. Its not illogical to seek God.
No. It points at least as well to each of us being at the end of an incredibly long line of those successfully fulfilling a desire to live and to breed. Genes not supporting these characteristics tend to get eliminated by failure to live and reproduce.
We have been very much programmed, blindly, by success.
Well that's not true.
"I hate my own body" (in quotes) in Google returns "[a]bout 19,500 results"
Without the quotation marks it returns "[a]bout 119,000,000 results"
Is it illogical for me to search for a magical flight-giver? You're conflating a bunch of different things and what you're saying makes no sense.
If talking to atheists is like talking to the tin man, then talking to theists is like talking to the scarecrow.I never refereed to such a thing. Talking to Atheists is like talking to a robot. No heart and soul. Have a pleasant day friend.
The flesh mentioned they may be life itself, not our body necessarily, and it may also refer to family instead. It doesn't matter to me though, because i know whats in my heart and how it has helped me. You will be in for a surprise one day friend. Im convinced of that. If not in this life, then afterward.
Doesn't the fact that "we" don't know at this point in human history seem bizarre to you?
I mean, how many brilliant people, way smarter than you and I, have tried to answer this question and still "we've" failed to find the true answer?
And where are the aliens!! "We" need help figuring this out!!
What if the answer is so simple that collective human knowledge has just passed right by it in the pursuit for more knowledge and less truth?
Just venting some thoughts.
The fact that we don't want to die, this points to a creator. Who else will we call upon to make us live, instead of die? If we deny that we want to live forever, then we deny the truth that is in us.
Cause and effect are quite established. To claim cause and effect are not relevant or active is the end of scientific discovery. I'm afraid that the given argument is literally, the end of reason.
No, but in the end we will still want to live, and no logical argument is needed to prove this. Who will you call on? Yourself?
I never refereed to such a thing. Talking to Atheists is like talking to a robot. No heart and soul. Have a pleasant day friend.
Talking to Atheists is like talking to a robot. No heart and soul.
The teleological argument is very strong.
No need to prove his point.Does talking to someone with a heart and soul mean that they just automatically agree with you instead of using logic and critical thinking skills, by any chance?
eudaimonia,
Mark
....because the universe is apparently fine tuned...
By chance?
The probability of that is infinitesimally small, so it does not point to chance, at all..
Does talking to someone with a heart and soul mean that they just automatically agree with you instead of using logic and critical thinking skills, by any chance?
eudaimonia,
Mark
The fact that we don't want to die, this points to a creator.
Who else will we call upon to make us live, instead of die?
If we deny that we want to live forever, then we deny the truth that is in us.
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