MoonlessNight
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The knowledge of Eastern Orthodox Church is: 1) God has miraculously made World from Absolute Nothing. 2) angels are not Holy Spirit. Therefore, they are not the "Absolute Immaterial Beings". Angels are not omnipresent, so they take the definite observable form.
1.) It is true that God did not need any matter or anything else for that matter to create the world. But that's not the same as saying that nothing lead to the world, since after all God is hardly nothing! And God Himself did not come from nothing, as He did not come from anything, always having existed and indeed being existence properly understood.
2.) Immaterial and omnipresent aren't synonyms. For example, my thoughts are not made of matter, nor is the universal concept of two, nor is the color red. They are real things, but they are immaterial. At the same time, none of these things are omnipresent. Red is not in things which are not red and so forth.
Thus when I say that Angles are immaterial I am not claiming that they are omnipresent. I am claiming that they are immaterial, i.e. that they are not made of matter.
My whole point is that many words, like immaterial or nothing, mean very specific and straightforward things. We can get into all sorts of confusion if we add meanings to them beyond this, as I suppose we are seeing here, but there isn't a good reason to do this. Just let the words mean what they mean.
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