Do creationists critically examine their own ideas (re: creationism)?

[W2L]

I asked you to articulate how you critically examine your idea and we didn't anywhere with that.

i examined creation and decide it was created.

 

[Tone]

That's nice. What does that have to do with the question of critically examining ideas?

Use your imagination...

 

[pitabread]

i examined creation and decide it was created.

And you still haven't articulate how you decided that.

Instead of responding with one-liners, take some time and think about what you want to articulate here and then come back with a more fulsome response. Otherwise, there's no new discussion to be had here.

 

[pitabread]

Use your imagination...

Hardy-har.

 

[W2L]

And you still haven't articulate how you decided that.

Instead of responding with one-liners, take some time and think about what you want to articulate here and then come back with a more fulsome response. Otherwise, there's no new discussion to be had here.

Do you believe Gods existence is possible?

 

[pitabread]

Do you believe Gods existence is possible?

The Christian God specifically? Probably not.

 

[Tone]

The Christian God specifically? Probably not.

Have you ever actively attempted to prove His existence?

 

[Kylie]

No. He will hide Himself until they come to Him humbly seeking and asking. The proud rejectors of God who lean to their own wisdom will be wise in their own conceits until the day of reckoning comes.

And we have another claim that is based on nothing but your mythology.

 

[pitabread]

Have you ever actively attempted to prove His existence?

I don't know how one would would do that. In talking to Christians over the years, it seems that the belief in the Christian God is a result of personal belief/subjective experience. Most often, it seems to be tied to either cultural influence or specific emotional events in a person's life.

If one could objectively prove the existence of the Christian God, they will succeed in something where no one has ever succeeded before.

 

[Tone]

objectively prove

He was objectively proven when He walked the earth,which was testified to by many witnesses,as preserved in Scripture (which itself is more objective proof).

 

[pitabread]

He was objectively proven when He walked the earth,which was testified to by many witnesses,as preserved in Scripture (which itself is more objective proof).

Yeah, yeah, I know the story and no, that's not objective "proof" of the Christian God.

What that is is a story written thousands of years or go which may not may not be heavily embellished. If something written down in a book constitutes "objective proof" in your eyes, the Lord of the Rings books are proof that Middle Earth exists.

This is actually where studying different religions and/or mythology weakens the Biblical argument for the Christian God. Many religions and cultures have their own sacred texts with stories of deities, miracles, and so on. Christianity is hardly unique in that respect.

 

[dad]

I've always believed that if there really is a supernatural deity, they'll at least have an appreciation for personal honesty as a virtue and they'll see right through petty threats like the above.

Personal honesty is good. Part of being honest is realizing a day of reckoning is coming. No one is saved by virtue, by the way. We are saved by belief in Jesus.

 

[dad]

Hence why my conclusions in this thread is that creationists, for the most part, do not critically examine their own ideas.

Nothing is more critical in coming to a knowledge of the truth than including God.

" critical
: exercising or involving careful judgment or judicious evaluation critical thinking" -websters

Careful judgment demands we do not exclude the creation or creator when trying to learn about creation.

I've been looking into the psychology behind this to try to understand why creationists appear to think differently than non-creationists.

Well, why would someone who asked God for the wisdom to understand what He wrote look at Scripture differently from one who did not even believe it?

 

[dad]

And we have another claim that is based on nothing but your mythology.

All claims in the creation and origins debate are based on beliefs, especially from so called science, so all that remains is looking to God, or the enemy and his minions. (Or leaning on your own understanding, which equals looking to the enemy)

 

[Tone]

And we have another claim that is based on nothing but your mythology.

There would be no evolution mythology without Biblical "mythology".

 

[Tone]

that's not objective "proof"

Your objectives are subjective...

 

[Tone]

I've been looking into the psychology behind this to try to understand why creationists appear to think differently than non-creationists.

You've been observing subconscious processes (emotions) to understand (critically examine?)...how emotional of you...

 

[Tone]

I don't know how one would would do that.

There is more to proof than intellectual assent...a lot more.

 

[Tone]

belief in the Christian God is a result of personal belief/subjective experience

Belief in anything in this world is a result of subjective experience...

*unless you have inerrant exhaustive knowledge (involving more than just the intellect) of everything...and nonthings...

 

[Tone]

tied to either cultural influence or specific emotional events in a person's life

What's not...?