Do creationists critically examine their own ideas (re: creationism)?

[W2L]

Pretty much the way placental mammals today do it.

And if you need help with that, then I'm afraid I can't help you.

Peace, i was just wondering.

 

[HitchSlap]

How did man's ancestors reproduce?

Well, there comes a time in a young man’s life...

 

[W2L]

Well, there comes a time in a young man’s life...

lol

 

[HitchSlap]

lol

Sexual selection in the animal kingdom (including primates), has been thoroughly documented and studied.

 

[xianghua]

Same genus though, right?

actually not. here is the rare pumapard (a mix between a puma and a leopard):

Pumapard - Wikipedia

 

[dad]

And you haven't shown your evidence to anyone here. I have, you are just incapable of recognising it.

You have not shown anything but beliefs. Don't blame me.
Remember in this and other threads you are welcome to show your beliefs are supposed to be more than just beliefs. Whining and moaning really doesn't do anyone any good.

 

[xianghua]

If nearly all of the differences between house cats and tigers are neutral, why is it that they look so different?

they are not actually. this is why they belong to the same family- felidae.

 

[dad]

(i) You still haven't been able to convince anyone that you have the slightest clue about how to distinguish what is real from what isn't real .. (so much for your 'reasons');

(ii) 'Origin science stories' is your term. I don't have a clue as to what you mean by that term .. Do you?

(iii) I don't believe (or have 'faith' in) anything about what science has to say because I don't have to. Even if I did, it would make zero difference to what science has to say.

Origin issues are dealt with by science in several fields actually. You seem to think that distinguishing reality depends on first rejecting the truth. Sorry, you are welcome to your religion and delusions.

 

[dad]

How did man's ancestors reproduce?

Since the flatworm is considered by science to be one of the oldest living relatives to man, I guess just watch how they go at it?

 

[xianghua]

What you've actually written here in weasel words is:

"There is a difference between neutral mutations and non neutral. Some of the differences among chimp and human aren't neutral when some of the differences between house cat and tiger also aren't neutral."

Alternatively it could be:

"There is a difference between neutral mutations and non neutral. Almost all of the differences among chimp and human are neutral when almost all of the differences between house cat and tiger are also neutral."

So your argument appears to be that these are different cases because they are the same

no. i think that there are much more non-neutral differences between human and chimp then there is between a tiger and a house cat.

 

[AV1611VET]

actually not. here is the rare pumapard (a mix between a puma and a leopard):

So a puma and a panthera.

In that case, one has the wrong genus.

And for the record, why are they rare?

 

[xianghua]

So a puma and a panthera.

In that case, one has the wrong genus.

And for the record, why are they rare?

i guess that is something with their genetics.

 

[AV1611VET]

i guess that is something with their genetics.

I'd say it's a problem with labeling.

Truth in Labeling

 

[SelfSim]

(i) You still haven't been able to convince anyone that you have the slightestclue about how to distinguish what is real from what isn't real .. (so much for your 'reasons');

(ii) 'Origin science stories' is your term. I don't have a clue as to what you mean by that term .. Do you?

(iii) I don't believe (or have 'faith' in) anything about what science has to say because I don't have to. Even if I did, it would make zero difference to what science has to say.

Origin issues are dealt with by science in several fields actually.

.. a non-answer.
.. Fail!

You seem to think that distinguishing reality depends on first rejecting the truth.

Incorrect .. Fail!
There is no objective test for: 'Truth exists' .. one way, or the other. The notion is therefore a belief.
End of story .. move on.

Sorry, you are welcome to your religion and delusions.

.. (stating the obvious - everyone is welcome to hold such notions. Your 'point' is moot in the extreme).
Of more importance however, is that I actually make the effort to distinguish religions and delusions ... whereas you continually demonstrate your incapacity for doing that.

 

[Astrophile]

no. i think that there are much more non-neutral differences between human and chimp then there is between a tiger and a house cat.

What is the evidence for this assertion?

 

[Tone]

Obviously no human is 100% reliable

This is exactly why He said, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

 

[Kylie]

You have not shown anything but beliefs. Don't blame me.
Remember in this and other threads you are welcome to show your beliefs are supposed to be more than just beliefs. Whining and moaning really doesn't do anyone any good.

Have done, you have demonstrated that you can't understand it.

 

[Kylie]

they are not actually. this is why they belong to the same family- felidae.

Tigers and housecats look very different.

 

[dad]

.. a non-answer.
.. Fail!
Incorrect .. Fail!

Honesty would probably be the best tact. We cannot be expected to believe that you are unaware of the various branches of science that claim to tell us where life came from and the universe and man..etc.

There is no objective test for: 'Truth exists' .. one way, or the other. The notion is therefore a belief.
End of story .. move on.
.. (stating the obvious - everyone is welcome to hold such notions. Your 'point' is moot in the extreme).

You have no test, I do. Jesus is the truth as well as the creator the bible says. Anything that opposes this is a lie.

Of more importance however, is that I actually make the effort to distinguish religions and delusions ... whereas you continually demonstrate your incapacity for doing that.

Not sure ow anyone would think the truth in the bible is hard to distinguish from the lies of demon science. They look nothing alike.

 

[dad]

Have done, you have demonstrated that you can't understand it.

No problem, kid yourself, and whatever lurker may believe you all you like.