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do Baptists take the eucharist?

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There is nothing unbiblical about the term Eucharist Twincrier. You are correct that we do not hold to their view of "transubstantiation", but Eucharist, Lord's Supper, whatever you want to call it is no problem. Nothing unbiblical in calling it the Eucharist.
You are correct that technically there is nothing wrong with the word Eucharist but words change meaning over time. The original meaning is as you say but it has taken on the connotation of grace imparted by the elements and Christ either being in or around the elements. This goes against the historical Baptist stance of the elements being only symbols and that there is no grace imparted by or in them. That is why Baptists don't normally call it the Eucharist.
 
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Hi arunma,

I am not sure if it the idea goes as far back as Baptists do, or if it is recent. I also wonder if this controversial issue (within Baptist circles, at least) could be fleshed out in history books, or if there are multiple historical statements about its origins.

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I am speaking off the top of my head from a very faulty memory but I have done some research on this subject in the past. IIRC abstinence from alcohol is not a typically historic Baptist teaching. Wine was used up until the era of Prohibition when Mr. Welch developed grape juice as a substitute for wine in communion. The issue was and is still debated among Baptists. I find no Biblical reason for the abstinence from alcohol and believe wine is the proper element to be use in communion. The natural properties of wine make it more closely resemble the blood of Christ. Again IIRC, there is no historical evidence that grape juice even existed as a nonalcoholic substance before Mr. Welch developed it.
 
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I am speaking off the top of my head from a very faulty memory but I have done some research on this subject in the past. IIRC abstinence from alcohol is not a typically historic Baptist teaching. Wine was used up until the era of Prohibition when Mr. Welch developed grape juice as a substitute for wine in communion. The issue was and is still debated among Baptists. I find no Biblical reason for the abstinence from alcohol and believe wine is the proper element to be use in communion. The natural properties of wine make it more closely resemble the blood of Christ. Again IIRC, there is no historical evidence that grape juice even existed as a nonalcoholic substance before Mr. Welch developed it.

IIRC, and I may be wrong, the use of grape juice in Baptist communion is limited to North America--that is, I think our Austrian Baptist church used wine. I'll have to check with my parents since it's been a while and I didn't take communion there as I was too little.
 
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There is nothing unbiblical about the term Eucharist Twincrier. You are correct that we do not hold to their view of "transubstantiation", but Eucharist, Lord's Supper, whatever you want to call it is no problem. Nothing unbiblical in calling it the Eucharist.
The word Eucharist isn't in my bible. Baptists don't have sacrements, we have ordinances. Most baptists would consider it heresy to claim communion is a sacrifice for sin.
 
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The word Eucharist isn't in my bible. Baptists don't have sacrements, we have ordinances. Most baptists would consider it heresy to claim communion is a sacrifice for sin.

The word eucharist comes from the Greek Bible.
 
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My church has communion on an irregular basis. We believe that it is one of two "ordinances" commanded by Jesus that we are to do. The other is "believer's baptism" by immersion upon profession of faith in Jesus as Savior. We observe no other ordinances or "sacraments".

I grew up in a very traditional Southern Baptist church where alcohol was strongly condemnd. It was never present in my parent's or grandparent's homes. Communion was done with grape juice. I now feel that the SBC's annual resolution condemning alcohol is unbiblical. The sin is drunkeness, which is a bad witness for Jesus, and some people can hold their liquor better than others. So, I believe it's a matter for the individual to decide for his/herself.
 
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Baptists don't have sacrements, we have ordinances.

My church uses ordinance and sacrament pretty much interchangeably. We recognize that baptism and the Lord's Table are sacraments ordained (instituted) by Jesus the Christ.

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The word Eucharist isn't in my bible. Baptists don't have sacrements, we have ordinances. Most baptists would consider it heresy to claim communion is a sacrifice for sin.
The word ordinance isn't in the KJV either, so does that mean we shouldn't call them that either?

Also, the words Christmas, United States of America, PlayStation, Computer, Internet, Blog, Web Site, and Submarine Sandwhich do not occur in the KJV Text, shall we perhaps not call those things what they are? ;) (Tounge in cheek sillyness)
 
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The word ordinance isn't in the KJV either, so does that mean we shouldn't call them that either?

Also, the words Christmas, United States of America, PlayStation, Computer, Internet, Blog, Web Site, and Submarine Sandwhich do not occur in the KJV Text, shall we perhaps not call those things what they are? ;) (Tounge in cheek sillyness)

Incidentally, the name King James also isn't in the KJV text. Unless of course one were to confuse him with the Apostle James.
 
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The word Eucharist isn't in my bible. Baptists don't have sacrements, we have ordinances. Most baptists would consider it heresy to claim communion is a sacrifice for sin.

Is the word 'trinity' in your Bible? Do you believe in it? I stand by what I said ... there is nothing unbiblical in calling it the Eucharist. Transubstantiation is what you need to stand against.
 
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Is the word 'trinity' in your Bible? Do you believe in it? I stand by what I said ... there is nothing unbiblical in calling it the Eucharist. Transubstantiation is what you need to stand against.

Not to mention that unlike the word 'Trinity,' the word 'eucharist' is in the Bible.
 
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thanks all for responding.

as a catholic, we call it eucharist, communion.. they both mean the same thing. so yeah lol. i don't believe the word has to do with any specific denomination.

as catholics we take it every week as a remeberance of the ultimate sacrifice. although some say that doing it all the time makes it meaningless, it really doesn't.
in fact, iny my opinion it makes it more meaningful since we take it so seriously and it's such a major thing in the catholic faith. but i'm nto here by any means to debate, because obviously as some have mentioned their churches do it daily.

anyways thanks all for the response!
 
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