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Im not interested in debating you.Okay, so your masters aren't interchangeable. That counts, sure. Seems kind of tangential to the things people hate about slavery though.
It's an aspect of it though, no? You don't get to choose what you do, your masters do.
I dunno, I can kind of see it... I'm gonna get crucified by my atheist brethren for agreeing with you even in the slightest, but isn't prison sort-of-kind-of slavery? What's the difference, really? Loss of freedom, can't quit, can't move, room-and-board provided, but at the cost of forced labor...
I mean, colloquially if someone asks, "Is slavery bad?" then yeah, sure, of course, always. But if we're looking for circumstances that might make it okay, then yeah, we can find reasons to feel okay about it, can't we?
Ran out of differences? Okie dokie!Im not interested in debating you.
No, I just remembered who you are.Ran out of differences? Okie dokie!
What does forming a moral decision look like to you? For I fail to understand why having principles established and reasoning from them is not thinking what is morally right, considering that most everyone I know has principles they follow and work from Christian, atheist, and all the other varieties of man. Not to mention that Christian moral theology extremely frequently simply requires you to make a judgment about an act that is based on what your reason can see, which is why people have a variety of positions on many things, including what even counts as murder all working from the same principles, so it isn't really "what do the rules say" from my perspective.
I'm an atheist. I've never been a Christian and yet I'm quite capable of reaching a moral decision without the need to study some religious document telling me what to think. I'm not arguing here that my decision is better or worse than yours. The difference is that I made the decision based on rational issues like fairness, or harm or the 'greater good'. I can also change my decision if circumstances warrant it. Rightly or wrongly I've thought about my decisions and I can justify my decisions to myself.
In your case your decision has been handed to you by a system largely incapable of providing a rational explanation and unable to change with the circumstances. As an outstanding example: homosexuality is wrong because the Church says it's wrong. No justification, no explanation based on principles of greater good or harm or anything apart from "It's wrong".
You also seem to be incapable of deciding if slavery is wrong without referring to some obscure apologetics.
It's a moral system for those incapable of making a moral decision for themselves.
OB
I said "okie-dokie", sir!No, I just remembered who you are.
Esp for those who attempt moral absolutes,I'm an atheist. I've never been a Christian and yet I'm quite capable of reaching a moral decision without the need to study some religious document telling me what to think. I'm not arguing here that my decision is better or worse than yours. The difference is that I made the decision based on rational issues like fairness, or harm or the 'greater good'. I can also change my decision if circumstances warrant it. Rightly or wrongly I've thought about my decisions and I can justify my decisions to myself.
In your case your decision has been handed to you by a system largely incapable of providing a rational explanation and unable to change with the circumstances. As an outstanding example: homosexuality is wrong because the Church says it's wrong. No justification, no explanation based on principles of greater good or harm or anything apart from "It's wrong".
You also seem to be incapable of deciding if slavery is wrong without referring to some obscure apologetics.
It's a moral system for those incapable of making a moral decision for themselves.
OB
In lots of ways, for starters we dont trade in prisoners.
Forced labour is not slavery either.
Or, its just that morals have changed since biblical times and that christians have no ”backstops”.
I'm not talking about a person who says, "It is right for me to keep people as slaves, but I would not like to be a slave myself."
I'm talking about a person who says, "It is right for me to keep people as slaves, but it is not right for me to be a slave myself."
The difference is that I made the decision based on rational issues...
You're surprised to see folks who claim morals are based on emotion to get emotional about morals?It's always fun to see those who claim that there is no objective morality getting all bent out of shape over slavery.
Are you seriously asking how is prison in the US different than slavery was in the US?Like I asked, how does it differ?
No. I don't need to respond to the rest of your post since you're answering a question I didn't ask.Are you seriously asking how is prison in the US different than slavery was in the US?
What question were you asking?No. I don't need to respond to the rest of your post since you're answering a question I didn't ask.
Is slavery different from prison. No mention of US at all. Think of the bare minimum requirements for calling something slavery, and tell me what's the difference between that and what we commonly do in prisons.What question were you asking?
It's always fun to see those who claim that there is no objective morality getting all bent out of shape over slavery.
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Is self-contradiction rational? Maybe you should find a document to help you, like a logic textbook.
Slavery is a very loaded term in the US. When we call something slavery, we think of something evil as I described in the previous post, but it isn’t always evil. In the Bible Jacob agreed to work unpaid for a man for 7 years in order to marry his daughter. In it’s loosest terms, this was slavery. Now wouldn’t it be absurd to say Jacob should not be allowed to become a slave for 7 years in order to marry the woman he loved? Of course slavery is perfectly fine as long as all parties involved agree to it.Is slavery different from prison. No mention of US at all. Think of the bare minimum requirements for calling something slavery, and tell me what's the difference between that and what we commonly do in prisons.
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