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Do accomplishments matter?

memoriesbymichelle

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I'm thinking about all the women I know and they are ALL so much more accomplished than me. In fact I really don't have any accomplishments. I finished high school a year early only to never get my college degree. Ive done a few different jobs in my life, but none are really great accomplishments.I work, I'm a mom with teenagers...I'm also a Admin manager (really a glorified bookkeeper) and that's it. I just joined a bible study and three of the people in the group are teachers, one is an optometrist, one is a real estate agent/mother to her sister's kid cuz sis went to rehab/works at phoenix college in the finance division. Another lady works in Human Resources at a Hospital...
So do accomplishments matter to men looking at women to date?
 

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Ya, it is easy to compare ourselves with others.

I think your biggest accomplishment is raising your children. They don't get much bigger than that.

I look at some people who work work work and then also have a lot of community activities. I don't want their life. They are too busy to do what I think is important.
I like having time to surf the web. To head off for a weekend in the mtns. or somewhere else.

Let them do all that work and take the acculades for it if they want it. Me I'll snuggle with my GF. read the Sunday paper, sit in the hot tub, jog around the block, or ride the bike around. I think of my enjoyment of God's creation as I play a round of golf as praise to Him.

That's my attitude.
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It took some time for her to tell me her stories of being a reading teacher to understand how good she was at that. So it took a while to learn, I do respect her for all her learning and konwing now to apply her learning to get the kids reading.

But mostly it was the chemestry that developed after a few dates.

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Not to me... Actually I find some really smart people rather boring.. LOL.. the most interesting people are the weeird ones or the ones who live a bit differently.. LOL.. the ones that society shuns.. the ones not "perfect"

Smart people aren't always smart in every way..
 
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Ok so maybe I phrased it wrong, but I don't think I'm conveying the thoughts I am having very well. I'm single....(you know that lol) and when I look at other people and their relationships, I see amazing people that you would say, are very motivated and accomplished. And by accomplished I don't mean plaques on the wall, or awards or medals, or anything like that necessarily. Like for example one woman I know used to be in the military (where she met her husband). Now she is a stay at home mom, BUT she's adopted 3 children (foster cared for them first). Is involved in church and child advocacy. She is an amazing cook that can be called upon to cater church functions etc. I can totally see why she would be considered interesting. Contrast that with me....never went to college even though I should have....was married for 25 years...now a widow for the past 5 years...has 2 teenage boys....has worked since 16 years, currently an administrative manager in a small machine shop for the past 5 years. Sooooo....I just wonder...if that would matter in attracting a guy. IDK I was just feeling a little down about not really doing anything with my life. Does that make any sense?
 
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I think I see somewhat what your saying MbM.

It will matter to some, but not to others. You just don't know till they make a decission about you.
But I'd say don't be so hard on yourself. You have your accomplishments as well. The fish production work I did was low on a totum pole of prestigious jobs. But I did some thinking about how to talk about it in a way that would make it interesting to others. I also looked at in a way that added to my life even with its limitation. It didn't pay enough to cover my bills. But I got a good physical workout ever day I went to work.

Besides its man's system that puts some human activities above others. God looks at the heart. :)

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I really don't have any accomplishments. I'm a mom with teenagers...

Having once been a teenager myself I have to ask- is there any greater accomplishment than to be a mother to teenagers?
 
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MM, welcome to the real world of mid-life crisis. Many of us reach this point in our lives, look back and see nothing worthy of note and conclude that we've accomplished nothing. Then, to make matters worse we compare ourselves to others who seem, to us, to be more accomplished than we are. That's not hard because nearly everybody can find somebody better at something than we are.

I know, I've been feeling the same way about my life. But, how do we really know? How do I know that it isn't a trick of the enemy, whispering in my ear that I'm worthless and that my life amounts to nothing?

Right about now, it may be time to stop and think. You have teenage children that call you "Mom".... that's quite an accomplishment. You've had to raise them yourself without much help---- another accomplishment. You've been recovering from the death of your husband--- another accomplishment. If I knew more about you, I could probably put together a list of seemingly small and insignificant things that together represent some considerable accomplishment.

Jesus said the first will be last and the last will be first. It may very well be that it's the people who never get noticed here on Earth who get the biggest crowns when we get to the Kingdom, while the people who get the big headlines here are barely noticed there.
 
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I'm thinking about all the women I know and they are ALL so much more accomplished than me.


We shouldn't compare ourselves to others because, unless we have pretty big egos, we'll never match up. And I suspect that we usually do - especially when they look at us.

In fact I really don't have any accomplishments. I finished high school a year early only to never get my college degree. Ive done a few different jobs in my life, but none are really great accomplishments.I work, I'm a mom with teenagers...I'm also a Admin manager (really a glorified bookkeeper) and that's it.


Sounds like some pretty good accomplishments to me. Personally I feel that sometimes it's an accomplishment just to get out of bed and head to work.

Why do you think you don't measure up? Is it that you want to do more in your life or do something different or . . . ?

I just joined a bible study and three of the people in the group are teachers, one is an optometrist, one is a real estate agent/mother to her sister's kid cuz sis went to rehab/works at phoenix college in the finance division. Another lady works in Human Resources at a Hospital...


One woman I serve with works as a homecare nurse in a Mormon household, and another woman I know is a clerk for the county. I'm an attorney, currently in grad school (again), while another man I serve with is former military, US Naval Academy (Annapolis) grad, now works as a consultant for the military and is also in grad school - and we both know that the 2 women I just mentioned are more accomplished than either one of us, despite our "accomplishments." They are not only on the front lines in their work, but also for the Lord - they serve Him with their whole heart, mind, soul and strength and proudly proclaim His glory to any and all who come into their paths. They also help lead people to Him on a fairly regular basis. Neither of us men do.

So, really, who's more accomplished?

So do accomplishments matter to men looking at women to date?

It depends on who you speak with and what the guy is looking for. I look for common interests and background, similar views/outlook on life. If she's "accomplished" by worldly standards, great.

I think you measure up pretty well to others. Don't put yourself down.

I read this past week a take on the story in Luke 7:36-50, where Jesus is in the Pharisee's home. Recall that a woman anointed His feet with her tears, and His head with expensive oil, but the Pharisee offered no such anointment, even though that was the common courtesy offered guests at that time. This is the story where we get the saying 'he who is forgiven much, loves much.'

The different take is that while we usually see this as a story between Jesus and the Pharisee, with the woman as a bit player she is actually a key player in this mini-drama. The narrative centers on her. Also realize that she hears Jesus' words as well as those of the Pharisee. She is able to see herself through both men's eyes. She already knew what the world thought of her, and thought that of herself too (hence the tears) but to hear Jesus' take on it must have quickened her heart. She heard Him speak and realized that He didn't look at her past (mis)deeds, but at her heart.

Step back from how you see yourself and try to think of how those close to you view you. Do you not think your sons have high regard for you? Do you not think they would say you have a big heart?

But more important than how others might view you, even your sons, is God's view. It's His perception that matters, not the world's. We're all equal at the foot of the cross.
 
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MM, welcome to the real world of mid-life crisis. Many of us reach this point in our lives, look back and see nothing worthy of note and conclude that we've accomplished nothing. Then, to make matters worse we compare ourselves to others who seem, to us, to be more accomplished than we are. That's not hard because nearly everybody can find somebody better at something than we are.

I know, I've been feeling the same way about my life. But, how do we really know? How do I know that it isn't a trick of the enemy, whispering in my ear that I'm worthless and that my life amounts to nothing?

Right about now, it may be time to stop and think. You have teenage children that call you "Mom".... that's quite an accomplishment. You've had to raise them yourself without much help---- another accomplishment. You've been recovering from the death of your husband--- another accomplishment. If I knew more about you, I could probably put together a list of seemingly small and insignificant things that together represent some considerable accomplishment.

Jesus said the first will be last and the last will be first. It may very well be that it's the people who never get noticed here on Earth who get the biggest crowns when we get to the Kingdom, while the people who get the big headlines here are barely noticed there.

Thank you for your kind and wise words. I don't care about getting noticed or alcolades or trophies. I would much prefer any rewards I get, if there are any be rewarded in Heaven, but I'm not looking toward that either, really. And I think you are right about the enemy part for sure. Thanks again.
 
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We shouldn't compare ourselves to others because, unless we have pretty big egos, we'll never match up. And I suspect that we usually do - especially when they look at us.

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Sounds like some pretty good accomplishments to me. Personally I feel that sometimes it's an accomplishment just to get out of bed and head to work.

Why do you think you don't measure up? Is it that you want to do more in your life or do something different or . . . ?



One woman I serve with works as a homecare nurse in a Mormon household, and another woman I know is a clerk for the county. I'm an attorney, currently in grad school (again), while another man I serve with is former military, US Naval Academy (Annapolis) grad, now works as a consultant for the military and is also in grad school - and we both know that the 2 women I just mentioned are more accomplished than either one of us, despite our "accomplishments." They are not only on the front lines in their work, but also for the Lord - they serve Him with their whole heart, mind, soul and strength and proudly proclaim His glory to any and all who come into their paths. They also help lead people to Him on a fairly regular basis. Neither of us men do.

So, really, who's more accomplished?



It depends on who you speak with and what the guy is looking for. I look for common interests and background, similar views/outlook on life. If she's "accomplished" by worldly standards, great.

I think you measure up pretty well to others. Don't put yourself down.

I read this past week a take on the story in Luke 7:36-50, where Jesus is in the Pharisee's home. Recall that a woman anointed His feet with her tears, and His head with expensive oil, but the Pharisee offered no such anointment, even though that was the common courtesy offered guests at that time. This is the story where we get the saying 'he who is forgiven much, loves much.'

The different take is that while we usually see this as a story between Jesus and the Pharisee, with the woman as a bit player she is actually a key player in this mini-drama. The narrative centers on her. Also realize that she hears Jesus' words as well as those of the Pharisee. She is able to see herself through both men's eyes. She already knew what the world thought of her, and thought that of herself too (hence the tears) but to hear Jesus' take on it must have quickened her heart. She heard Him speak and realized that He didn't look at her past (mis)deeds, but at her heart.

Step back from how you see yourself and try to think of how those close to you view you. Do you not think your sons have high regard for you? Do you not think they would say you have a big heart?

But more important than how others might view you, even your sons, is God's view. It's His perception that matters, not the world's. We're all equal at the foot of the cross.


Thank you...your words touched my heart as I am crying while reading this and typing my reply.
 
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To answer original question, in looking at say prospective single women, as I am single too, accomplishments, income, occupation, all are unimportant to me. It would be the heart that matters, and if they were a Christian or not. Now if the person actually did nothing in their lives and was boring as a stump, well, then we prolly wouldn't have much to talk about, and that wouldn't work so well.
 
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To answer original question, in looking at say prospective single women, as I am single too, accomplishments, income, occupation, all are unimportant to me. It would be the heart that matters, and if they were a Christian or not. Now if the person actually did nothing in their lives and was boring as a stump, well, then we prolly wouldn't have much to talk about, and that wouldn't work so well.

Thanks.....THAT was the kind of answer I was looking for. I don't "do" much but I'm not boring lol. I don't "do" much cuz I don't got much money, but I like to do things :D.
 
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