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Yes. And I explained why. If you're just going to ignore it, why bother replying?
Because science stated Pluto was a planet as fact. They did not say Pluto 'may' be a planet. They said Pluto IS a planet.

I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand.
 
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Yes. What is the problem?
Would you prefer science to uphold the status quo and not make any progress?
Big problem with something stated as fact or truth that is later discovered not to be fact or truth.

Are you having that big of a problem understanding what I am saying? I don't get it. Should I say it slower or something?
 
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I stated what I stated, sorry it is not good enough for you or you need a citation. I stand by what I said.

So, you feel like you can just claim whatever you want and aren't required to support your claims? We should all "just believe you"?

Interesting.
 
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Because science stated Pluto was a planet as fact. They did not say Pluto 'may' be a planet. They said Pluto IS a planet.

I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand.

And you are upset that more icy bodies were discovered, justifying the reclassification of Pluto?

Or are you just upset about science making progress?
 
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Again, we disagree. lol. Your not convincing me, of anything. I thought you had fact and science on your side?

Don't try to shift the burden of proof.

You made the claim, present evidence for it. If you can't, I get to dissmiss it at face value.
 
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Big problem with something stated as fact or truth that is later discovered not to be fact or truth.

It was a fact at the time that Pluto matched the criteria of what a planet was
Then we discovered more stuff, which triggered us into redefining what planets are.

In light of that new knowledge, Pluto no longer fit the description of "planet" and it was a better fit for the new category of new stuff that was discovered.

We are going around in circles. You continue to "protest" something, but it seems you aren't able to articulate what exactly...

I can only conclude that you are mad about progress being made.

I'm not upset that Pluto is no longer classified as a planet. Quite the opposite, I rejoice in the new understanding, the new knowledge, the new insights,... concerning our solar system.

Apparantly, you do not.

Are you having that big of a problem understanding what I am saying? I don't get it. Should I say it slower or something?

Try saying something sensible, instead.
 
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Don't try to shift the burden of proof.

You made the claim, present evidence for it. If you can't, I get to dissmiss it at face value.
Do what you like brother. Free will is God given. I have free will also. I disagree with you obviously.
 
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Not really; when the 'million happy coincidences' are the demonstrable consequences of a single assumed principle, they are a million happy confirmations of that principle. If that single principle is a natural consequence of the world and does not require the assumption of an unexplained additional entity, it is more parsimonious.

After reading your post it sounds like they've explained the origin of life. Who got the nobel prize?
 
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Because science stated Pluto was a planet as fact.

Definitions aren't facts. In reality, planets are human constructs, a way that we have decided to categorize celestial bodies. The facts about the celestial bodies have not changed.
 
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I am getting a little frustrated with people not respecting my right to have another opinion and to see things a different way, so I will leave before I get myself in trouble with the mods.

I HOLD to my POSITION 100%!

Nobody says that you don't have a right of having your own opinion.
The problem only arises when you present your opinions as being facts.

The nonsense you've written down in this thread, wasn't presented as "your opinion".

You made claims and presented them as factual, while they are not.
 
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lol. I see the validity of their claims. Pluto is a fabulous example.

Again, categorising an object based on certain criteria is not a matter of claims, but a matter of definitions.

New information justified the need for additional criteria and subsequent reclassification according to the updated criteria.

As Loudmouth said, not a single fact concerning Pluto was retracted at any point in this process.
 
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Your opinion, I disagree. We will leave it at that.

No, you're statement is opinion. His is not. You have not once presented any evidence that science is biased against God.
 
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I am getting a little frustrated with people not respecting my right to have another opinion and to see things a different way, so I will leave before I get myself in trouble with the mods.

I HOLD to my POSITION 100%!

But you have not once presented any evidence for your claim. No-one is asking you to change your position. We are only asking your for evidence for your claim.
 
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