Divorced and Child Support

[drpepper101]

THe courts basically want to ensure that the children are protected -you're the grown ups...get another job if you need to...but they also try to help maintain a semblance of lifestyle. You know I hear so many guys gripe but reality is with divorce typically the womens standard of life reduces while the mans typically betters a lot more (if they are the non-custodial parent)

Ahh yes, you are your child's servant. Work 100 hours a week, or until the stress and lack of rest kills you, but pay, pay, pay. Least the slavers have to come and arrest you for not working yourself to an early grave.
Actually the feminist study conducted by Lenore Weitzman was throughly discredited by Sanford Braver's work. Lenore Weitzman later attempted to explain her fraud claiming a math error by an assistant. The reality is, when court judgements, support amounts, and all other factors like tax credits are taken into consideration, men's standard of living falls and women maintain standards of living fall beyond their earning ability. There is a "child support" termination dip when the indentured servitude ends.

ANd honestly I think it shows a huge entitlement problem if you
don't think you should support the children you created.

Does does supporting children have to do with making annuity payments to an ex-spouse/partner?

Man or woman-if drp wife didn't pay support that's your fault for not ensuring the courts collect. Judges here get mad when you don't pursue it-it's not about what makes it easier for you (oh....well...i don't have to deal w/the stress of it), you OWE it to the childrne to collect support, period.

You just have to love the "give me" mentality. Actually, I never had any legal obligation to attempt to collect child support. No one has a legal obligation to do anything to collect child support.

Whether it's for current needs, a savings or investment for college or to help get started in life, or if that money simply would have been used to help with common expenses. SOme parents chose not to pursue becaue they don't want an ex involved or deal w/them...sorry that's selfish and you are NOT doing what's best for the kids. you owe it to them to collect, period. It's not about YOU, it's about them. SO I fault the ones that don't pay, try to pay less, and the ones that don't collect or try to pursue collection of it..none of them are putting their kids best interests at heart-only serving their own.

Yes, I'm sure what's best for kids is to see their parents parading them into court every other week to fight about money. I'm sure that teaches them valuable lessons and lets them know that their very useful, for extracting money out of the other parent. My ex wife needed the money to feed herself, should she starve so that I could have had some extra pocket money that I neither needed nor wanted?
And I fault people like you for creating a world in which everyone feels owed by someone else.

There are so many needs...people just can't grasp the fact that the money goes to the custodial parent who then pays for the kids expenses...they want to create a seperate account they manage....it's stupid. And because they have animosity towards the ex they resent it. But really they are damaging their kids.

I'd rather say a custodial parent that can't provide for their children and yet insists on maintain custody is doing the harm. What happens when the other parent looses a job, gets hurt, gets killed?

Kids have clothing needs, food needs, school lunches at times, school events, project, outings, birthdays, fundraisers, sporting event costs, dr appointments and expenses,

Pack your kids a sack lunch. If you can't afford to donate to the fundraiser than such is life. Sometimes you don't get to go on an outing when there's isn't money for it, life sometimes just doesn't include summer camp. A birthday party is not a need, have some cake in the back yard. Playing sports isn't a need of children either, some kids just don't get to play ice hockey.

housing...YES -your money also helps the custodial parent with a roof over your kids head! ....it's not about WHY the divorce happened, that's what people can't get it seems...why they divorced...it doesn't MATTER, what matters are the kids NOW, so people need to get over their bitter selves and do what is right for the kids NOW, this is how it should be.

Again, if you can't afford a place to live without child support then you have no business with custody of the kids in the first place.

 

[overit]

Ahh yes, you are your child's servant. Work 100 hours a week, or until the stress and lack of rest kills you, but pay, pay, pay. Least the slavers have to come and arrest you for not working yourself to an early grave.
Actually the feminist study conducted by Lenore Weitzman was throughly discredited by Sanford Braver's work. Lenore Weitzman later attempted to explain her fraud claiming a math error by an assistant. The reality is, when court judgements, support amounts, and all other factors like tax credits are taken into consideration, men's standard of living falls and women maintain standards of living fall beyond their earning ability. There is a "child support" termination dip when the indentured servitude ends.



Does does supporting children have to do with making annuity payments to an ex-spouse/partner?



You just have to love the "give me" mentality. Actually, I never had any legal obligation to attempt to collect child support. No one has a legal obligation to do anything to collect child support.



Yes, I'm sure what's best for kids is to see their parents parading them into court every other week to fight about money. I'm sure that teaches them valuable lessons and lets them know that their very useful, for extracting money out of the other parent. My ex wife needed the money to feed herself, should she starve so that I could have had some extra pocket money that I neither needed nor wanted?
And I fault people like you for creating a world in which everyone feels owed by someone else.



I'd rather say a custodial parent that can't provide for their children and yet insists on maintain custody is doing the harm. What happens when the other parent looses a job, gets hurt, gets killed?



Pack your kids a sack lunch. If you can't afford to donate to the fundraiser than such is life. Sometimes you don't get to go on an outing when there's isn't money for it, life sometimes just doesn't include summer camp. A birthday party is not a need, have some cake in the back yard. Playing sports isn't a need of children either, some kids just don't get to play ice hockey.




Again, if you can't afford a place to live without child support then you have no business with custody of the kids in the first place.

YOu are so wrong I don't know where to being-...and your comments to the dayknee-wow....how low can you get. The rest of your post is senseless....women wouldn't NEED a larger house if living alone....and many times they divorce because the living situations are unbearable-and YES they should be able to keep their home to provide security to their children. You are the one with the problem who thinks the kids should suffer in childhood because adults that created them don't owe it to the children to support them and help pay for their basic needs.....the fact that you don't think a parent should pay support tells me the kind of person you are....whether they are rich or poor-they eventually can find a way to help in any way they can. Your power hungry cop attitude coming out strong. I pray for the benefit of society you never speak again honestly.
Who said you should work 100 hours???? I mean really? Many people work more then 40hrs a week at some point in their lives. You have no idea how many children are negatively impacted and single parent homes because of deadbeat parents that don't think they should do their duty and support their children....YOU are the one with the entitlment problem, not anyone else.

And I"m sorry there are plenty of stay at home moms who sacrificed THEIR professional lives so he can advance his-who are abused, hit, cheated on...so because he has the money he should have the kids? DOesn't work that way-it's not ONLY about who can support them but who is the most fit parent and has been the most responsible one....so in that case I say HECK yeah she shoud receive childsupport and be able to provide a house for their children. THe money is to help support the children-they need food, haircuts, YES birthdays-they are invited to these things you know? Kids that have nothing are often ridiculed and suffer greatly-why should they have to do that when their is no SANE reason they should if the parent does their job to PROVIDE for their children.

THe Bible says He that doesn't provide for his famiy is worse then an infidel-bottom line. God says it, the court says it, society says it....it's the RIGHT thing to do-if you don't believe it is then the entitlement issue is on you.

You know come to think of it-I also know plenty of abusers that used their money to further abuse their spouse in the court system-and obtain custody because of having the better attorney, the money and blinding the courts of their behavior-PLENTY---come to think about it .... hmmmm

The fact that you minimize abusive behavior over and over again makes a clear picture of who you are. I should learn from lessons w/my own abuser-disengage they only drag you further into their muck

 

[rppearso]

It all depends on the situation, the problem CSED is they do not take into account the bills of the non custodian parent they set a flat percentage and thats it, if its her fault the marriage ended and she gets the house and kids he has to provide for himself and find a new place to live and that costs money especailly if the house was payed for. The devil is in the nitty gritty details, how are you suppost to support your kids when you loose your job because you are living out of your car. Its a slippery slope with glass all around you so be careful when you throw your next stone. People dont care about your soap box speachs when they are being extorted by the courts out of being able to live, people are going to go into survival mode and do what it takes to live and the people that need the most spiritual help in church are going to walk away because unfortunatly there are alot of people like you in the church, ready to go with the stone in the sling shot just itching to throw it.

YOu are so wrong I don't know where to being-...and your comments to the dayknee-wow....how low can you get. The rest of your post is senseless....women wouldn't NEED a larger house if living alone....and many times they divorce because the living situations are unbearable-and YES they should be able to keep their home to provide security to their children. You are the one with the problem who thinks the kids should suffer in childhood because adults that created them don't owe it to the children to support them and help pay for their basic needs.....the fact that you don't think a parent should pay support tells me the kind of person you are....whether they are rich or poor-they eventually can find a way to help in any way they can. Your power hungry cop attitude coming out strong. I pray for the benefit of society you never speak again honestly.
Who said you should work 100 hours???? I mean really? Many people work more then 40hrs a week at some point in their lives. You have no idea how many children are negatively impacted and single parent homes because of deadbeat parents that don't think they should do their duty and support their children....YOU are the one with the entitlment problem, not anyone else.

And I"m sorry there are plenty of stay at home moms who sacrificed THEIR professional lives so he can advance his-who are abused, hit, cheated on...so because he has the money he should have the kids? DOesn't work that way-it's not ONLY about who can support them but who is the most fit parent and has been the most responsible one....so in that case I say HECK yeah she shoud receive childsupport and be able to provide a house for their children. THe money is to help support the children-they need food, haircuts, YES birthdays-they are invited to these things you know? Kids that have nothing are often ridiculed and suffer greatly-why should they have to do that when their is no SANE reason they should if the parent does their job to PROVIDE for their children.

THe Bible says He that doesn't provide for his famiy is worse then an infidel-bottom line. God says it, the court says it, society says it....it's the RIGHT thing to do-if you don't believe it is then the entitlement issue is on you.

You know come to think of it-I also know plenty of abusers that used their money to further abuse their spouse in the court system-and obtain custody because of having the better attorney, the money and blinding the courts of their behavior-PLENTY---come to think about it .... hmmmm

The fact that you minimize abusive behavior over and over again makes a clear picture of who you are. I should learn from lessons w/my own abuser-disengage they only drag you further into their muck

 

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