Divorce

[Duckybill]

God did not save his family because only he believed. God saved the family because the family believed.

Never said "only". God changes hearts for we who believe.

The word says "Whosoever believes...shall be saved" not "whosoever believes shall be saved along with his family". My belief doesn't direct other people's beliefs.

I'll believe what God said.

Acts 16:31
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

No exceptions!

As I pointed out already, I am receiving the blessings from God's promises. Does Satan bless? Of course not.

Satan can and does 'bless' to deceive. MANY unbelievers are GREATLY blessed who live for Satan.

It makes me laugh that you still think I'm not a believer or that I won't inherit the kingdom of heaven, simply because I took ACTION over a sin that was consuming our lives. I took action with God's help and assistance. I was with God every step of the way and He took care of me during that time. Even when my ex tried to kill me, I didn't fear him because I knew God would handle the matter, and He was right there with me as I filed for a restraining order. I'll add that He even bumped the system for me because upon my divorce being finalized, the restraining order was made permanent - something I didn't even think about asking for but received anyway.

Sorry, but God doesn't bless us with divorce.

If you were separated for years, then I take it you have reconciled with your spouse.

Yep, just as God promised.

But reconciliation is not always possible, no matter how much you think it is.

I John 5
22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

I will always counsel abused spouses to remove themselves from the abusive situation, and then to take a long time working out whether their marriage can be salvaged or not. Sometimes it can, sometimes it can't.

Mark 9
23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

For those who have been wronged in their marriage, whether through infidelity or abandonment, and they no longer have a marriage, they still have the blessings of the Lord, as I have shown. Just because they didn't respond to the situation the way you think (and it is the way you think, not the way God thinks) doesn't mean they aren't believers or that they don't experience God's many blessings.

There are no valid excuses for a Christian to divorce. We have God's promises for every need. Divorce isn't one of them.

 

[Duckybill]

But reconciliation is not always possible, no matter how much you think it is.

Why not?

 

[JustMeSee]

Duckybill, do you advise those people who have divorced and remarried to leave their current spouses to please God?

 

[Duckybill]

Duckybill, do you advise those people who have divorced and remarried to leave their current spouses to please God?

Nope. I am addressing those who haven't reached that point.

 

[JustMeSee]

Nope. I am addressing those who haven't reached that point.

What would you advise for those who have divorced and remarried?

 

[foodiepeep]

You all are making me feel absolutely doomed here. Thanks..

 

[Steffenfield]

Same here Laura.

Hey, I wasn't doing anything with my good mood anyway. *lol*

 

[Duckybill]

What would you advise for those who have divorced and remarried?

That would depend on whether the person was a Christian when he/she remarried. Forgiveness is available to those who repent rather than justify their sin, as with most sins.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

That would depend on whether the person was a Christian when he/she remarried. Forgiveness is available to those who repent rather than justify their sin, as with most sins.

So here's two scenarios:

1. The person was not a Christian when they remarried.

2. The person was Christian when they remarried.

How would you handle each scenario? What would you advise?

 

[PreachersWife2004]

You all are making me feel absolutely doomed here. Thanks..

Same here Laura.

Hey, I wasn't doing anything with my good mood anyway. *lol*

Here is comfort for you:

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

You are not doomed nor damned because of your situations. Please take that to heart.

If you need someone to talk to, please PM me. I am married to a pastor and between him and I we can offer you great spiritual comfort without the condemnation.

 

[Duckybill]

So here's two scenarios:

1. The person was not a Christian when they remarried.

Doesn't matter then. If they get saved the sin will be gone as will the rest of their sins. Washed away by the Blood of Jesus.

2. The person was Christian when they remarried.

For the truly repentant, ask forgiveness.

1 John 1:7 (NKJV)
7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Doesn't matter then. If they get saved the sin will be gone as will the rest of their sins. Washed away by the Blood of Jesus.
For the truly repentant, ask forgiveness.

1 John 1:7 (NKJV)
7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

Great! Then we're all set and you can stop telling us we don't believe now.

Wonderful!



I've been cleansed of any sin in my divorce for a long time, Duck.

You're actually dodging the question.

I believe you were asked at one point in time whether those who were remarried should leave their current spouses and reunite with their former spouses. You never answered that. I am certainly curious to find out your response...

 

[Duckybill]

Great! Then we're all set and you can stop telling us we don't believe now.

Obviously you determined that yourself.

I've been cleansed of any sin in my divorce for a long time, Duck.

Good.

You're actually dodging the question.

I believe you were asked at one point in time whether those who were remarried should leave their current spouses and reunite with their former spouses. You never answered that. I am certainly curious to find out your response...

I wouldn't advise either way in that case. And I wouldn't advise telling others it's ok for Christians to divorce and remarry. That would make the adviser as guilty as the adulterer.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Obviously you determined that yourself.

By reading the bible and through prayerful consideration. Or are you saying you can see into my heart?

Good.

Well, you probably wouldn't actually consider it so good after I tell you that I did not ask for forgiveness for divorcing my ex. I did ask for forgiveness for any sin that I committed that moved my marriage in that direction, though. And I certainly didn't ask for forgiveness for getting remarried.

I wouldn't advise either way in that case.

I get it...you'd rather just sit and condemn those of us who remarried than actually tell us what to do to fix it.

And I wouldn't advise telling others it's ok for Christians to divorce and remarry. That would make the adviser as guilty as the adulterer.

Then it's probably a good thing you don't work with abused people. I will continue to tell people that while divorce is never the best option, sometimes it is the only option. I will continue to tell people that God still loves them, still holds them in the palm of His hand and that they have not lost the salvation that Jesus won for them on the cross.

You can continue to preach whatever it is you preach, of course...but I will always be there to combat it with the Truth.

 

[Duckybill]

By reading the bible and through prayerful consideration. Or are you saying you can see into my heart?

Hebrews 4:12 (NKJV)
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Well, you probably wouldn't actually consider it so good after I tell you that I did not ask for forgiveness for divorcing my ex. I did ask for forgiveness for any sin that I committed that moved my marriage in that direction, though. And I certainly didn't ask for forgiveness for getting remarried.

Sorry to hear that.

I get it...you'd rather just sit and condemn those of us who remarried than actually tell us what to do to fix it.

I have not "condemned" anyone. God's Word convicts of sin. Stop blaming me.

Then it's probably a good thing you don't work with abused people. I will continue to tell people that while divorce is never the best option, sometimes it is the only option. I will continue to tell people that God still loves them, still holds them in the palm of His hand and that they have not lost the salvation that Jesus won for them on the cross.

You can continue to preach whatever it is you preach, of course...but I will always be there to combat it with the Truth.

On Judgment Day those who have convinced others to divorce or remarry will be confronted by God's warning.

1 Corinthians 6:9 (NKJV)
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,

They will have blood on their hands.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

tsk tsk, Ducky.

Stop saying we're not going to heaven. You do realize it's against the rules, right?

 

[Duckybill]

tsk tsk, Ducky.

Stop saying we're not going to heaven. You do realize it's against the rules, right?

We? Who is we? When did I mention you?

 

[PreachersWife2004]

We? Who is we? When did I mention you?

Don't play dumb.

 

[Duckybill]

Don't play dumb.

Moderator privilege?

 

[Duckybill]

Then I truly hope my husband dies.. if this is the case... It doesn't say I cannot wish that too does it??? I know I cannot murder him but... seriously is that where it leads??

I am astounded that nobody has replied to this comment!