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Division is not a problem of Protestantism--it's a problem of Christianity
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Unfortunately, "If it's not in the Bible, we shouldn't be doing it." , is always open for debate,(angels on pinheads et al-the "pin heads" usually being the debators of such idiotic ideas...........
In other words, inserting "interpretations" that are perversions of the origional word.
And the ancient churches did PLENTY of calling "heresy" on others.
Even hear of a quaint little period called "The Inquisition"?
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Ya dropped the "I Bomb".
Quick, build a museum in Washington D.C., before the "deniers" rise up!
Can we all take a minute (or 3) to laugh at ourselves before all the lurkers beat us to it?
Quick, build a museum in Washington D.C., before the "deniers" rise up!
Can we all take a minute (or 3) to laugh at ourselves before all the lurkers beat us to it?
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The Inquisition was not 'ancient'- it was Medeival, localized, and not based in interpretation, but ased in a centuries-old conflict with the Muslims in Spain.
If you wish to castigate heresy hunters in the ancient world, those types of misdeeds can easily be found- from without the Church and within.
This line constitutes a red herring, for there is not one tradition who can be absolved of the faults and violence.
If you wish to castigate heresy hunters in the ancient world, those types of misdeeds can easily be found- from without the Church and within.
This line constitutes a red herring, for there is not one tradition who can be absolved of the faults and violence.
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How can a nation(satan) stand when it is divided ? - Jesus Christ
There are 300 divided protestant denominations..
there is one unified Catholic Church..
This is proof that protestantism is nothing more than a modern gnosticism or Marcionism heresy. If protestant denominations can't agree with each other then that is proof that the holy spirit is not working through them.. For Christ is one, truth is one, and his church is one and not divided..There can not be 'variations' of the truth, because that is a contradiction in terms. If protestantism is true, then there would not be hundreds of different denominations within its borders all claiming that they have the one truth..
Protestantism is nothing more than a tree without its roots. And when a tree dosen't have roots it dies eventually.
There are 300 divided protestant denominations..
there is one unified Catholic Church..
This is proof that protestantism is nothing more than a modern gnosticism or Marcionism heresy. If protestant denominations can't agree with each other then that is proof that the holy spirit is not working through them.. For Christ is one, truth is one, and his church is one and not divided..There can not be 'variations' of the truth, because that is a contradiction in terms. If protestantism is true, then there would not be hundreds of different denominations within its borders all claiming that they have the one truth..
Protestantism is nothing more than a tree without its roots. And when a tree dosen't have roots it dies eventually.
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Uh.. no, he was referring to the church peter built, he gave peter the keys.. The church came BEFORE the bible.. Its very obvious if you read the verse without twisting it to know what he was meaning..
And if you want to go mudslinging about the inquisition, what about the Klu Klux klan killing and persecuting Catholics comming into early america?
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There is only church, it is Christ's church, His body, His flesh and His bone..
If you believe that it is confined to the RCC, then you're deceived.. plain and simple.
The church of God is a habitation of God through the Spirit.. and every member of His body which He has sealed with His Spirit of promise is a part of His body.
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Except that Peter did not build The Church. Christ established The Church and left James in charge, not Peter.
Forgive me...
Forgive me...
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Another blatantly false statement.. the OT scriptures are the foundation upon which the church of God stands.. even though the church was hidden in times past.. the NT stands upon the foundation of the OT.
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Well said Renton...well said....its 36 000 denominations btw
According David A. Barrett’s World Christian Encyclopedia: A Comparative Survey of Churches and Religions in the Modern World A.D. 1900—2000 (ed. David A. Barrett; New York: Oxford University Press, 1982).
According David A. Barrett’s World Christian Encyclopedia: A Comparative Survey of Churches and Religions in the Modern World A.D. 1900—2000 (ed. David A. Barrett; New York: Oxford University Press, 1982).
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A full NT was canonized 300 years AFTER the church..
the first century and second century christians had only tradition and word of mouth to go by.. the lucky ones maybe had a espitle or 2 from paul..
They didnt have copy machines like they do today.. papias was very hard to come by easily..
You need to read up on history...
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Comments such as these simply exemply the ignorance which exists in Christendom.. because there is one church, Christ's church.. it's His body.. He is building it.. adding members to it as it pleases Himself..
You're either in it or you're not.. and some folks insist on continuing the ridiculous claims that it is their assembly exclusively..
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To orthodoxy: Who did Christ give the keys (Mat 16:18) to? Who made the decision in the Council of Juerasalem? Who did the Church fathers say the Church is built on?
To Etide: My dear friend, the Bible was onli compiled at 382AD. The NT was onli compiled then. ANd who did it...it was the CC in the Council of Rome. Ur founder, luther agreed with that.
To Etide: My dear friend, the Bible was onli compiled at 382AD. The NT was onli compiled then. ANd who did it...it was the CC in the Council of Rome. Ur founder, luther agreed with that.
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So as I said.. your statement is blatantly false.. unless you consider the OT not the bible..
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your claims are ridiculous.. your are claiming a sect that has 36,000 different views and denominations to be "One".. contradiction in terms
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It simply shows that you have no idea what the church of God is..
There is only ONE CHURCH.. ONE BODY.. if you do not understand that, then you shouldn't be speaking about it.
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Sorry, you can't deny history.. The church was here before the NT.. for the first 2 centurys christians had only tradition to go by..Im speaking a historical fact, your just speaking an opinion..
The NT superceeds the OT.. Christ said you can't put old wineskins in new, what do you think he was talking about?
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