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Divine Sex: Liberating Sex from Religious Tradition?
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<blockquote data-quote="SuperCloud" data-source="post: 68322651" data-attributes="member: 357959"><p>There is money to be made in, "What the Church never told you." Or in revealing "secrets" in general.</p><p></p><p>Okay, so, God created sex and the various species and they weren't a product of the evolutionary biological processes?</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what "Church" the author speaks of. But the Catholic Church views sex as a "foretaste of heaven." However, like alcohol and gambling, it recognizes its addictive nature. And the monks of the Middle Ages composed some pretty homoerotic literature. This in part due to the fact the Catholic understanding of God's relationship to humanity has always been sexual in typology. The reason God the Father is referred to as "Father," as male, while having no biological sex, is because human <u><strong>men</strong></u> (not merely women) take on the effeminate and "receptive" role in a relationship to God. What God puts in you, so to speak, is in that sense <strong><em>ejaculatory</em></strong>.</p><p></p><p>The monks of the Middle Ages were very aware of this an a number of them produced some recognizably homoerotic literature when talking about their mystical relationship to God.</p><p></p><p>But human sexuality was born not solely out of evolutionary processes but out of Intelligent Design within the Catholic frame work of understanding things. And the S&M dynamic of sexual arousal the Catholic catechism suggests, came after, was a product of the Fall from Grace due to Adam and Eve. The Original Sin humans inherit from the First Parents.</p><p></p><p>(Catholic theology and Protestant theology differ on how they view the concept of "Original Sin." For Catholicism it does not indicate humans are bad or evil, in fact humans are good because they are a part of creation, and pulled towards and prone to virtue. However, the "Original Sin" inheritance makes humans vulnerable to sin and also pulled towards and prone to sin. Whereas, with Protestants view creation as bad--unlike Catholics--and the inheritance of "Original Sin" means, from the eyes of Luther, that humans are a pile of feces and all creation necessarily bad unless reborn of Christ.)</p><p></p><p>I'm not familiar with the Orthodox view but the Orthodox are less legalistic than Catholicism.</p><p></p><p>The Orthodox accuse Catholicism--and Protestantism--of being too rational. They have a good point I believe. And reading Thomas Aquinas--while similar to Buddhist metaphysical literature--is like reading math. It is dry. And very logical. Like math.</p><p></p><p>As a biology student I right away recognized the Catholic teaching on sex and the sexual as being the closest thing out there to the science of biology. The science of biology is dry reading. Very logical. It's not emotionally charged and poetic. So, most people hate Catholic teaching on the right uses of the sexual organs, what the functional design of the sexual organs are for, rather than the Church waxing poetically on anal licking--or like the Vagina Monologous--having an erotic affair between a grown woman and young teenage girl with the older "grooming" her.</p><p></p><p>The Orthodox Church may have the more balanced view of sex per teachings. I dunno. Catholic teaching can get so legalistic as to be bizarre. But Catholic teaching is heavily geared to preventing a person from committing what it regards as "mortal sin." As only one mortal sin prior to death is said to be sufficient for eternal damnation in hell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuperCloud, post: 68322651, member: 357959"] There is money to be made in, "What the Church never told you." Or in revealing "secrets" in general. Okay, so, God created sex and the various species and they weren't a product of the evolutionary biological processes? I'm not sure what "Church" the author speaks of. But the Catholic Church views sex as a "foretaste of heaven." However, like alcohol and gambling, it recognizes its addictive nature. And the monks of the Middle Ages composed some pretty homoerotic literature. This in part due to the fact the Catholic understanding of God's relationship to humanity has always been sexual in typology. The reason God the Father is referred to as "Father," as male, while having no biological sex, is because human [U][B]men[/B][/U] (not merely women) take on the effeminate and "receptive" role in a relationship to God. What God puts in you, so to speak, is in that sense [B][I]ejaculatory[/I][/B]. The monks of the Middle Ages were very aware of this an a number of them produced some recognizably homoerotic literature when talking about their mystical relationship to God. But human sexuality was born not solely out of evolutionary processes but out of Intelligent Design within the Catholic frame work of understanding things. And the S&M dynamic of sexual arousal the Catholic catechism suggests, came after, was a product of the Fall from Grace due to Adam and Eve. The Original Sin humans inherit from the First Parents. (Catholic theology and Protestant theology differ on how they view the concept of "Original Sin." For Catholicism it does not indicate humans are bad or evil, in fact humans are good because they are a part of creation, and pulled towards and prone to virtue. However, the "Original Sin" inheritance makes humans vulnerable to sin and also pulled towards and prone to sin. Whereas, with Protestants view creation as bad--unlike Catholics--and the inheritance of "Original Sin" means, from the eyes of Luther, that humans are a pile of feces and all creation necessarily bad unless reborn of Christ.) I'm not familiar with the Orthodox view but the Orthodox are less legalistic than Catholicism. The Orthodox accuse Catholicism--and Protestantism--of being too rational. They have a good point I believe. And reading Thomas Aquinas--while similar to Buddhist metaphysical literature--is like reading math. It is dry. And very logical. Like math. As a biology student I right away recognized the Catholic teaching on sex and the sexual as being the closest thing out there to the science of biology. The science of biology is dry reading. Very logical. It's not emotionally charged and poetic. So, most people hate Catholic teaching on the right uses of the sexual organs, what the functional design of the sexual organs are for, rather than the Church waxing poetically on anal licking--or like the Vagina Monologous--having an erotic affair between a grown woman and young teenage girl with the older "grooming" her. The Orthodox Church may have the more balanced view of sex per teachings. I dunno. Catholic teaching can get so legalistic as to be bizarre. But Catholic teaching is heavily geared to preventing a person from committing what it regards as "mortal sin." As only one mortal sin prior to death is said to be sufficient for eternal damnation in hell. [/QUOTE]
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