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Divine Revelations of Hell

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How do we know if this Mary person is for real, or if she is just making this all up?
Indeed.

I have heard and read many "divine revelations".
Go on YouTube and you'll see many people self-proclaiming and testifying that they've been given knowledge of "the day of rapture" and such, or that they were sent to hell and back, or that they went to heaven and spoke to Jesus, etc.

All in all, none are real. None are divine.
Some are outright deceitful. Some are in good spirit, if a bit ignorant.

For instance, there was a man who was living in sin and was planning to kill himself the next morning.
During his sleep, he said he went to hell and was saved from it by Christ. When he woke up, he sinned no more, and was clearly convicted by the Holy Spirit.
(You can search for this video on YouTube: Tortured in Hell & Lived to Tell "Jesusmybeauty")

Now, did he actually go to hell, and did he actually encounter the Lord? No.
He had a powerful dream that resulted from the immense pressure someone would had if he was waiting to commit suicide the next morning, plus, he had been drinking and taking strong drugs frequently for a very long time.

But I do believe God, as He always does, took this bad situation and made it good by helping him turn to Him instead of suicide. The man may not have had a divine vision, or any subsequent ones for that matter (he has falsely prophesied since), but this man is in good spirit.

The same may not be said for the many, many other false prophets who claim to be with Him, and yet are not, but are of their own fleshly desires which seek the attention and adoration of men for being "chosen by God", when they are clearly not.
 
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Greetings Happyuser & the Saints here , thank you so much for your advise . How about a joust ? I'll spot you 10 Scripture references that prop-up my claim and you rebut my 10 or / and add what's left to total 10 ! Okay ? My verse will be from , Young's Literal Translation (YLT) !

1.
Matthew 10:28
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
28 `And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to DESTROY in gehenna.
2.
Luke 13:3
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
3 No -- I say to you, but, if ye may not reform, all ye even so shall perish.



3. John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
So either a person receives eternal life, or they perish. They die. They are not burned alive forever, they just perish.

4.
Romans 6:23
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
23 for the wages of the sin [is] death, and the gift of God [is] life age-during in Christ Jesus our Lord.
5.
1 Corinthians 3:17
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
17 if any one the sanctuary of God doth waste, him shall God waste; for the sanctuary of God is holy, the which ye are.
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Galatians 6:8
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
8 because he who is sowing to his own flesh, of the flesh shall reap corruption; and he who is sowing to the Spirit, of the Spirit shall reap life age-during;
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2 Thessalonians 1:9
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
9 who shall suffer justice -- destruction age-during -- from the face of the Lord, and from the glory of his strength,
8.
2 Thessalonians 1:9
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
9 who shall suffer justice -- destruction age-during -- from the face of the Lord, and from the glory of his strength,
9.
Hebrews 10:39
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
39 and we are not of those drawing back to destruction, but of those believing to a preserving of soul.
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James 1:15
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
15 afterward the desire having conceived, doth give birth to sin, and the sin having been perfected, doth bring forth death.
11.
Jude 1:5
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
5 and to remind you I intend, you knowing once this, that the Lord, a people out of the land of Egypt having saved, again those who did not believe did destroy;
Romans 6:21-23
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21 What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! 22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in[a] Christ Jesus our Lord.

From Elohim ABBA YAH's mouth to your ear , DEATH OR ETERNAL LIFE ! This would be a good place to say , LIFE IN ETERNAL PUNISHING TORMENT OR ETERNAL LIFE , wouldn't it ?


Peace to you and what is entrusted in your care . The servant ron .

Luke 19-31

Matthew 8:12

Matthew 22:13

Matthew 25:30

Matthew 5:22

Revelation 21:8

Revelation is great because it illustrates spiritual death isn't talking about actual dying. It's clear from revelation that there's a hell. After the trubulation, all will be judged. If they are not in the book of life, they get toss to the lake of fire.
 
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Greetings Happyuser & the Saints here , prove this statement by witnesses from Revelation .
Revelation is great because it illustrates spiritual death isn't talking about actual dying. It's clear from revelation that there's a hell. After the trubulation, all will be judged. If they are not in the book of life, they get toss to the lake of fire.
Revelation 22:18-19
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
18 `For I testify to every one hearing the words of the prophecy of this scroll, if any one may add unto these, God shall add to him the plagues that have been written in this scroll,
19 and if any one may take away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the scroll of the life, and out of the holy city, and the things that have been written in this scroll;'

Aren't you trying to prove " LIFE IN ETERNAL PUNISHING TORMENT " ? These verses don't get there ! Which of mine don't mean DESTRUCTION !
Luke 19-31; 31 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.

Matthew 8:12 ; 12 but the sons of the reign shall be cast forth to the outer darkness -- there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of the teeth.'

Matthew 22:13 ; 13 `Then said the king to the ministrants, Having bound his feet and hands, take him up and cast forth to the outer darkness, there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of the teeth;

Matthew 25:30 ; 30 and the unprofitable servant cast ye forth to the outer darkness; there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of the teeth.

22 but I -- I say to you, that every one who is angry at his brother without cause, shall be in danger of the judgment, and whoever may say to his brother, Empty fellow! shall be in danger of the sanhedrim, and whoever may say, Rebel! shall be in danger of the gehenna of the fire.

Revelation 21:8 ; 8 and to fearful, and unstedfast, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the liars, their part [is] in the lake that is burning with fire and brimstone, which is a second death.'

I concur , " the lake of fire in Rev. 21:8 is the second DEATH ", not " ETERNAL PUNISHMENT ".

Peace .
 
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God is testing you. Do you want to believe God is merciful? Or do you want to believe God is a sadistic God who will torture living being for all eternity? Perhaps some of you should study what a parable is.

Job 27:8
For what hope have the godless when they are cut off, when God takes away their life?

John 5
28"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.

Condemnation from God brings death.
 
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God is testing you. Do you want to believe God is merciful? Or do you want to believe God is a sadistic God who will torture living being for all eternity? Perhaps some of you should study what a parable is.

Job 27:8
For what hope have the godless when they are cut off, when God takes away their life?

John 5
28"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.

Condemnation from God brings death.

John 5:28 is referring to physical bodies, so it doesn't contradict my point. Revelation 20:10 makes it clear that the lake of fire is eternal punishment. If hell is death, why did Jesus give the story of lazuras and the rich man? And all the reference of weeping and gnashing of teeth? Souls that are hell bound are spiritually dead. That's why they use the teen, perish.
 
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John 5:28 is referring to physical bodies, so it doesn't contradict my point. Revelation 20:10 makes it clear that the lake of fire is eternal punishment. If hell is death, why did Jesus give the story of lazuras and the rich man? And all the reference of weeping and gnashing of teeth? Souls that are hell bound are spiritually dead. That's why they use the teen, perish.

When reading a parable you need to take that into account. The word "fire" is parabolic for judgement. The word "lake" is parabolic for the body of people.

The Rich Man and Lazarus

Luke 16:19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’

27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

Theophilus is the name or honorary title of the person to whom the Gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles are addressed (Luke 1:3, Acts 1:1)

It is unanimously agreed that both Luke and Acts were originally written in Koine Greek, and that "Theophilos," as it appears therein, means friend of God or (be)loved by God or loving God in the Greek language.

No one knows the true identity of Theophilus who wrote the story, and there are more than several conjectures and traditions around an identity.
In all there are about eight traditions based upon that story. Again I say: Hell has never been a doctrinal belief in Judaism.


Don't you think if Yahshua was to introduce a new doctrine that he would at least explain the story?


Hades ( /ˈheɪdiːz/; from Greek ᾍδης (older form Ἀϝίδης), Hadēs, originally Ἅιδης, Haidēs or Άΐδης, Aidēs (Doric Ἀΐδας Aidas), meaning "the unseen") was the ancient Greek god of the underworld. The genitive ᾍδου, Haidou, was an elision to denote locality: "[the house/dominion] of Hades". Eventually, the nominative came to designate the abode of the dead.

In Greek mythology, Hades is the oldest male child of Cronus and Rhea. According to myth, he and his brothers Zeus and Poseidon defeated the Titans and claimed rulership over the cosmos, ruling the underworld, air, and sea, respectively; the solid earth, long the province of Gaia, was available to all three concurrently.

Hades was also called "Plouton" (Greek: Πλούτων, gen.: Πλούτωνος, meaning "Rich One"), a name which the Romans Latinized as Pluto. The Romans would associate Hades/Pluto with their own chthonic gods, Dis Pater and Orcus. The corresponding Etruscan god was Aita. Symbols associated with him are the Helm of Darkness, the bident and the three-headed dog, Cerberus.


Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be (tormented / punished) day and night for ever and ever.


The words "torment throughout eternity" is not relevant, because in the second death, hades and death are done away with. Most likely the word "grave" was replaced with the word "Hades."

In English usage the word "Hades" first appears around 1600, as a term used to explain the article in the Apostles' Creed, "He descended into hell", where the place of waiting (the place of "the spirits in prison" 1 Peter 3:19 KJV) into which Jesus is there affirmed to have gone after the Crucifixion needed to be distinguished from what had come to be more usually called "hell", i.e. the place or state of those finally damned.


Revelation 20:14
Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

Since Hell or Hades are done away with, there can be no eternal punishment, other than the condemned are cut off from the living for all eternity. Do you see what I am saying? In other words there is no one alive in a place called Hades. Scriptures say that God takes their life away from them. And like I have said before, the word "fire" is often used in a parabolic way to mean judgement.
I found one place where "coal" meant judgement, and some other places where "lightning," a type of fire, meant judgement. If there were a place called Hades with living being in it, then God lied, and the serpent told the truth.

I'm making a point, and I am not calling God a liar.

Because people die, unless saved by God, that means that life in Hades is a lie of the serpent. The serpent doctrine is that there is life in Hades, and people are being tortured for all eternity. That is a lie. Scriptures are written in such a way that they are self-correcting. The Catholics were from the Gnostic mystery schools, they believed in Hell and Trinitarianism. The Catholics killed off the original Christians, and replaced their scriptures with their own versions.


Daniel 8:12
Because of rebellion, the LORD’s people and the daily sacrifice were given over to it. It prospered in everything it did, and truth was thrown to the ground.
Scripture is God's truth.


Catholic Gnosticism.
The attitude of the Catholic Church toward paganism is best summed up by Pope Gregory the Great, in his words to a missionary: “You must not interfere with any traditional belief or religious observance that can be harmonized with Christianity.”

Not only were the Congregations divided by Gnosticism, but enticed by philosophy and paganism also, and there were geographic divisions as well.
Pope Gregory 540 – 12 March 604.

Just a reminder that it was the Catholic Church that canonized scripture.
 
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John 5:28 is referring to physical bodies, so it doesn't contradict my point. Revelation 20:10 makes it clear that the lake of fire is eternal punishment. If hell is death, why did Jesus give the story of lazuras and the rich man? And all the reference of weeping and gnashing of teeth? Souls that are hell bound are spiritually dead. That's why they use the teen, perish.

If YAHUSHUA said it, it existed. I don't try to reason away what he says. Why would he had gsaid it if it weren't true?

It is very unlikely that Yahshua told that story about Lazuras and the rich man. That story comes from Theophilus, and what do we know about him? The weeping and gnashing of teeth come after Judgement, then they are cut off form life. You need to discern the difference between literal and parable.
 
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It is very unlikely that Yahshua told that story about Lazuras and the rich man. That story comes from Theophilus, and what do we know about him? The weeping and gnashing of teeth come after Judgement, then they are cut off form life. You need to discern the difference between literal and parable.

I know it was a parable, meaning there probably wasn't a real man name lazuras, but Yahushua used realistic examples in his parables. And I don't dismiss books on the bible. If you're saying Theophilus told the story, that's a dangerous line to go down. You either have to believe in the bible or not believe in it. Picking, choosing, cutting and pasting scriptures and books out of the bible is dangerous. If that parable didnt happen, how can we be sure Yahushua even existed? To me, as a christian, you must establish the Bible is God word. Do the Greek translations have mistakes? Certainly. Bit to assume passages and stories are added isn't something I believe in.
 
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I know it was a parable, meaning there probably wasn't a real man name lazuras, but Yahushua used realistic examples in his parables. And I don't dismiss books on the bible. If you're saying Theophilus told the story, that's a dangerous line to go down. You either have to believe in the bible or not believe in it. Picking, choosing, cutting and pasting scriptures and books out of the bible is dangerous. If that parable didnt happen, how can we be sure Yahushua even existed? To me, as a christian, you must establish the Bible is God word. Do the Greek translations have mistakes? Certainly. Bit to assume passages and stories are added isn't something I believe in.
Do you not pay attention to what I say? THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CANONIZED OUR SCRIPTURES. Would you shoot yourself in the foot because of some minor problems?:doh:
 
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I know it was a parable, meaning there probably wasn't a real man name lazuras, but Yahushua used realistic examples in his parables. And I don't dismiss books on the bible. If you're saying Theophilus told the story, that's a dangerous line to go down. You either have to believe in the bible or not believe in it. Picking, choosing, cutting and pasting scriptures and books out of the bible is dangerous. If that parable didnt happen, how can we be sure Yahushua even existed? To me, as a christian, you must establish the Bible is God word. Do the Greek translations have mistakes? Certainly. Bit to assume passages and stories are added isn't something I believe in.

I am well aware of the sins of the Catholic Church as it relates to scriptures. But to dismiss any scriptures that disagrees with your theories on catholic canonization isn't accurate. I use the Aramaic bible in plain English translations and other translations. Another source I use is a website called Eliyah.com. The point I'm making is that parable existed before the Catholic Church started tampering with Christianity. You can't just blame the Catholic Church on any scripture that isn't convenient to your theory or opinion.
Another thing, the original holy manuscript had the book of Enoch and the secrets of Enoch. You will see many New Testament books referenced it. In those books, Enoch saw and referenced hell. Many people dismisses those books because king James chose to omitt them from his translation of the bible. You have to remember back in those days, they had access to those books so hell wasn't a new concept when YAHISHUA gave the parable.
 
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I am well aware of the sins of the Catholic Church as it relates to scriptures. But to dismiss any scriptures that disagrees with your theories on catholic canonization isn't accurate. I use the Aramaic bible in plain English translations and other translations. Another source I use is a website called Eliyah.com. The point I'm making is that parable existed before the Catholic Church started tampering with Christianity. You can't just blame the Catholic Church on any scripture that isn't convenient to your theory or opinion.
Another thing, the original holy manuscript had the book of Enoch and the secrets of Enoch. You will see many New Testament books referenced it. In those books, Enoch saw and referenced hell. Many people dismisses those books because king James chose to omitt them from his translation of the bible. You have to remember back in those days, they had access to those books so hell wasn't a new concept when YAHISHUA gave the parable.
There is no doubt that the book of Enoch was an inspired work of an unknown prophet; but it is also a established fact that it has Gnostic corruptions in it. "The Rich Man and Lazarus" story is only found in Luke. Theophilus wrote Luke. What do we know about Theophilus? Hell and Hades has always been a Pagan belief, it was not a teaching in Judaism in Christ day. No where in the Old Testament do you find Hell and Hades as a teaching. The word Hell in the KJV is not a correct translation. Sheol in Hebrew means "GRAVE" and nothing else.

Luke 1
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Introduction


1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.
 
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There is no doubt that the book of Enoch was an inspired work of an unknown prophet; but it is also a established fact that it has Gnostic corruptions in it. "The Rich Man and Lazarus" story is only found in Luke. Theophilus wrote Luke. What do we know about Theophilus? Hell and Hades has always been a Pagan belief, it was not a teaching in Judaism in Christ day. No where in the Old Testament do you find Hell and Hades as a teaching. The word Hell in the KJV is not a correct translation. Sheol in Hebrew means "GRAVE" and nothing else.

Luke 1
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Introduction


1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

Hell was a teaching in his days, because in his days, they had the book of Enoch. The book of Enoch was every bit accepted in those days as any other book. Enoch gave an account of hell in the Secrets of Enoch. King James did not translated every book from the holy manuscript.
YAHUSHUA referenced Gahenna too.
 
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This edition was translated by R. H. Charles.

tyndalearchive.com/Scripture .innvista.com/scriptures/pseudep/nt06.htm

The Book of Enoch is, for the history of theological development, the most important pseudepigraph of the first two centuries B.C. Nearly all the writers of the New Testament were familiar with it, and were more or less influenced by it in thought and diction. It is quoted as a genuine production of Enoch by Jude, and as Scripture by Barnabas. The authors of The Book of Jubilees, the Apocalypse of Baruch, and 4 Ezra laid it under contribution. With earlier Fathers and Apologists, it had the weight of a canonical book.

The book comes from many writers and almost as many periods. It touches upon every subject that could have arisen in the ancient schools of the prophets, but naturally it deals in an advanced stage of development. Nearly every religious idea appears in a variety of forms. The history of the development of the higher theology during the two centuries before the Christian era could not be written without The Book of Enoch.

The authors of all sections belonged to the Chasida or their successors, the Pharisees. The book was written originally partly in Aramaic and partly in Hebrew. Up until the third century A.D., it was considered to be Scripture. After that time, it fell into discredit and gradually passed out of circulation.

Originally published in the United Kingdom in 1912, this edition was reproduced by Kessinger Publishing.

Contents:
General Introduction
The Book of Enoch: Special Introductions, Translation, Critical and Exegetical Notes
Section I: (chapters 1-36)
Section II: The Parables (chapters 37-71)
Section III: The Book of the Courses of the Heavenly Luminaries (chapters 72-82)
Section IV: The Dream-Visions (chapters 83-90)
Section V: (chapters 91-104)
Appendix I: The Gizeh Greek Fragment (1-32) and the Greek Fragments Preserved in Syncellus' Chronographia
Appendix II: The Son of Man; Its Meaning in Jewish Apocalyptic and the New Testament
 
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Hell was a teaching in his days, because in his days, they had the book of Enoch. The book of Enoch was every bit accepted in those days as any other book. Enoch gave an account of hell in the Secrets of Enoch. King James did not translated every book from the holy manuscript.
YAHUSHUA referenced Gahenna too.

I see that you are a Pagan or Gnostic by what you are posting. I have to keep repeating myself because you pay no attention to what I say. The word Gehenna has a different meaning, it is parabolic for destruction. Pagan and Gnostic Christians should inform other Christians that they are such.

Gehenna: Mentioned twelve or thirteen times in the bible. Gehenna: Referring to the Valley of Hinnom, or Gehenna which is the city dump outside the walls of Jerusalem; it then was a place of constant burning of refuge.

Topheth is believed to be a location in Jerusalem, in the Valley of Hinnom, where the Canaanites sacrificed children to the god Moloch by burning them alive.


Isaiah 30:33
Topheth has long been prepared; it has been made ready for the king. Its fire pit has been made deep and wide, with an abundance of fire and wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of burning sulfur, sets it ablaze.

Jeremiah 7:31-32
They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind. So beware, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when people will no longer call it Topheth or the Valley of Ben Hinnom, but the Valley of Slaughter, for they will bury the dead in Topheth until there is no more room.

Deuteronomy 13:1-5
If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.

Hades was the ancient Greek god of the underworld. How long will you continue to preach Hades as a biblical truth?

Jeremiah 19:13-15
The houses in Jerusalem and those of the kings of Judah will be defiled like this place, Topheth—all the houses where they burned incense on the roofs to all the starry hosts and poured out drink offerings to other gods.' "

Jeremiah then returned from Topheth, where the LORD had sent him to prophesy, and stood in the court of the LORD's temple and said to all the people, "This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: 'Listen! I am going to bring on this city and the villages around it every disaster I pronounced against them, because they were stiff-necked and would not listen to my words.' "

That is Gehenna Judgment that Yahshua came and warned Israel about.
 
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This edition was translated by R. H. Charles.

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The Book of Enoch is, for the history of theological development, the most important pseudepigraph of the first two centuries B.C. Nearly all the writers of the New Testament were familiar with it, and were more or less influenced by it in thought and diction. It is quoted as a genuine production of Enoch by Jude, and as Scripture by Barnabas. The authors of The Book of Jubilees, the Apocalypse of Baruch, and 4 Ezra laid it under contribution. With earlier Fathers and Apologists, it had the weight of a canonical book.

The book comes from many writers and almost as many periods. It touches upon every subject that could have arisen in the ancient schools of the prophets, but naturally it deals in an advanced stage of development. Nearly every religious idea appears in a variety of forms. The history of the development of the higher theology during the two centuries before the Christian era could not be written without The Book of Enoch.

The authors of all sections belonged to the Chasida or their successors, the Pharisees. The book was written originally partly in Aramaic and partly in Hebrew. Up until the third century A.D., it was considered to be Scripture. After that time, it fell into discredit and gradually passed out of circulation.

Originally published in the United Kingdom in 1912, this edition was reproduced by Kessinger Publishing.

Contents:
General Introduction
The Book of Enoch: Special Introductions, Translation, Critical and Exegetical Notes
Section I: (chapters 1-36)
Section II: The Parables (chapters 37-71)
Section III: The Book of the Courses of the Heavenly Luminaries (chapters 72-82)
Section IV: The Dream-Visions (chapters 83-90)
Section V: (chapters 91-104)
Appendix I: The Gizeh Greek Fragment (1-32) and the Greek Fragments Preserved in Syncellus' Chronographia
Appendix II: The Son of Man; Its Meaning in Jewish Apocalyptic and the New Testament
It was a book used by Christians during the time of Christ and the disciples, but since then it has been corrupted by Gnostic's. Charles found many corruptions, and there is no guarantee that he found all of them.
 
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It was a book used by Christians during the time of Christ and the disciples, but since then it has been corrupted by Gnostic's. Charles found many corruptions, and there is no guarantee that he found all of them.

The fact is Snoch talked about people being tormented eternally. I would like to know what were these "corruptions" Charlse found? We're they really corruptions or were they disagreements? But I'm thinking ths conversation has ran it's course. We just have two different philosophical differences with reading the bible. I believe every book in it was inspired by God. It's as if God wrote the book. Yes, certain translations may be off with translations but I would never discount a whole book. I also don't really care about who wrote what book. It's Gods word to me. I also don't discount the book of Enoch, Jasher, the book of wisdom and book of jubilees.
 
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I see that you are a Pagan or Gnostic by what you are posting. I have to keep repeating myself because you pay no attention to what I say. The word Gehenna has a different meaning, it is parabolic for destruction. Pagan and Gnostic Christians should inform other Christians that they are such.

Gehenna: Mentioned twelve or thirteen times in the bible. Gehenna: Referring to the Valley of Hinnom, or Gehenna which is the city dump outside the walls of Jerusalem; it then was a place of constant burning of refuge.

Topheth is believed to be a location in Jerusalem, in the Valley of Hinnom, where the Canaanites sacrificed children to the god Moloch by burning them alive.


Isaiah 30:33
Topheth has long been prepared; it has been made ready for the king. Its fire pit has been made deep and wide, with an abundance of fire and wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of burning sulfur, sets it ablaze.

Jeremiah 7:31-32
They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind. So beware, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when people will no longer call it Topheth or the Valley of Ben Hinnom, but the Valley of Slaughter, for they will bury the dead in Topheth until there is no more room.

Deuteronomy 13:1-5
If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.

Hades was the ancient Greek god of the underworld. How long will you continue to preach Hades as a biblical truth?

Jeremiah 19:13-15
The houses in Jerusalem and those of the kings of Judah will be defiled like this place, Topheth—all the houses where they burned incense on the roofs to all the starry hosts and poured out drink offerings to other gods.' "

Jeremiah then returned from Topheth, where the LORD had sent him to prophesy, and stood in the court of the LORD's temple and said to all the people, "This is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: 'Listen! I am going to bring on this city and the villages around it every disaster I pronounced against them, because they were stiff-necked and would not listen to my words.' "

That is Gehenna Judgment that Yahshua came and warned Israel about.

And no, I'm not a pagan. I'm a follower of God. If reading the bible and obeying God is a pagan, so be it. Following the King James Bible is dangerous. If one is to truely know God, you must branch out. The king James is littered with translations error. So I choose to use the Aramaic bible and other Hebrew versions.
 
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The fact is Snoch talked about people being tormented eternally. I would like to know what were these "corruptions" Charlse found? We're they really corruptions or were they disagreements? But I'm thinking ths conversation has ran it's course. We just have two different philosophical differences with reading the bible. I believe every book in it was inspired by God. It's as if God wrote the book. Yes, certain translations may be off with translations but I would never discount a whole book. I also don't really care about who wrote what book. It's Gods word to me. I also don't discount the book of Enoch, Jasher, the book of wisdom and book of jubilees.
You do not know enough about scriptures and translations to be teaching what the truth is. The word "torture" could also be translated as "punish-ed-ment."
Book of Enoch. See brackets: The Book of Enoch: Abbreviations, Brackets and Symbols Specially Used in the Translation of 1 Enoch
 
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