I wasn't talking about God, I was talking about extraterrestrial life and fish(who knows)? Of course God is there. God is omnipresent. He is everywhere.
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Dividing the waters from the waters
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What are you smoking? Water exists on Europa, might exist on the moon, and existed on Mars.
Water is just hydrogen and oxygen. It forms rather easily.
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Morat: "water exists on europa, might exist on the moon, and existed on mars."
That water is in the form of ice crystals, what Duane was talking about was LIQUID water OUTSIDE outer space.
That water is in the form of ice crystals, what Duane was talking about was LIQUID water OUTSIDE outer space.
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Only because it's frozen. It's still water. Duane' idea is, frankly, rather ludicrous, but your 'odds' are worse.
And, for that matter, not all the water on Europa is frozen. It's probably liquid further down (gravitational heating).
And, for that matter, not all the water on Europa is frozen. It's probably liquid further down (gravitational heating).
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Morat, you think my ideas are ludicrus because you do not understand them.
Sky77, there would not be any fish or other things because all of the creation is contained in the expanse. All of the matter is inside trying to get out. Everything is contained in a single point particle, and inside this point particle is energy and mass, the mass is water, but it is contained in the single point particle which is in the zero dimension. So the water outside the expanse is probably still occupying zero dimensions. It can be confusing trying to think of everything being contained in a dimension with no dimensions, but that is how it is. The expanse happens from the inside, and when it reaches the outside it becomes one with Alpha-Omega.
So while there may be extraterrestrial life on other planets, the only thing outside of everything is God. The water is actually a denser form of energy, and it is not what we term water here on earth, although the water we drink gains its properties from the original water in God. What we call water, H2O, is the third dimensional version. There is water in heaven too, but it may be different in some ways from what we think of as water. It has the same basic properties, but with an extra dimension in the dimension it is occupying.
Sky77, there would not be any fish or other things because all of the creation is contained in the expanse. All of the matter is inside trying to get out. Everything is contained in a single point particle, and inside this point particle is energy and mass, the mass is water, but it is contained in the single point particle which is in the zero dimension. So the water outside the expanse is probably still occupying zero dimensions. It can be confusing trying to think of everything being contained in a dimension with no dimensions, but that is how it is. The expanse happens from the inside, and when it reaches the outside it becomes one with Alpha-Omega.
So while there may be extraterrestrial life on other planets, the only thing outside of everything is God. The water is actually a denser form of energy, and it is not what we term water here on earth, although the water we drink gains its properties from the original water in God. What we call water, H2O, is the third dimensional version. There is water in heaven too, but it may be different in some ways from what we think of as water. It has the same basic properties, but with an extra dimension in the dimension it is occupying.
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My thoughts exactly. If God wants water in outer space, God gets water in outer space. It doesn't matter how improbable it is.
It seems there is indeed a working theory here. I believe mine is the better translation, but I guess that wouldn't fit into the Creationist mindset, so I'll let that one go
BTW, anyone seen Nick?
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In its brief account of creation the Bible says regarding the forming of earths atmosphere: And God went on to say: Let an expanse come to be in between the waters and let a dividing occur between the waters and the waters. Then God proceeded to make the expanse and to make a division between the waters that should be beneath the expanse and the waters that should be above the expanse.Gen. 1:6, 7.
The waters beneath the atmospheric expanse were the waters on the surface of the earth. Whereas, the waters . . . above the expanse were vast quantities of moisture suspended high above the earth, evidently in the form of a heavy vapor. These waters surrounded our earth in its earlier history.
Regarding the possibility of the existence of such suspended waters, the book The Genesis Flood (1961), by John C. Whitcomb, Jr., and Henry M. Morris, observes:
The region above about 80 miles is very hot, over 100° F and possibly rising to 3000° F, and is in fact called the thermosphere for this reason. High temperature, of course, is the chief requisite for retaining a large quantity of water vapor. Furthermore, it is known that water vapor is substantially lighter than air and most of the other gases making up the atmosphere. There is thus nothing physically impossible about the concept of a vast thermal vapor blanket once existing in the upper atmosphere.
However, the exact height and the way in which the waters were held above the earth cannot be known by us with certainty. But we do know that it was to these suspended waters that the Christian apostle Peter referred when writing under Gods inspiration about the Noachian flood. He explains that there was an earth standing compactly out of water and in the midst of water, and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.2 Pet. 3:5, 6.
The earth in the pre-Flood days was out of water in the sense that the ground on which men lived and walked stood above the waters of the seas and rivers. Yet, it was in the midst of water, since a vast quantity of it surrounded the earth, suspended far above its surface.
The waters beneath the atmospheric expanse were the waters on the surface of the earth. Whereas, the waters . . . above the expanse were vast quantities of moisture suspended high above the earth, evidently in the form of a heavy vapor. These waters surrounded our earth in its earlier history.
Regarding the possibility of the existence of such suspended waters, the book The Genesis Flood (1961), by John C. Whitcomb, Jr., and Henry M. Morris, observes:
The region above about 80 miles is very hot, over 100° F and possibly rising to 3000° F, and is in fact called the thermosphere for this reason. High temperature, of course, is the chief requisite for retaining a large quantity of water vapor. Furthermore, it is known that water vapor is substantially lighter than air and most of the other gases making up the atmosphere. There is thus nothing physically impossible about the concept of a vast thermal vapor blanket once existing in the upper atmosphere.
However, the exact height and the way in which the waters were held above the earth cannot be known by us with certainty. But we do know that it was to these suspended waters that the Christian apostle Peter referred when writing under Gods inspiration about the Noachian flood. He explains that there was an earth standing compactly out of water and in the midst of water, and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water.2 Pet. 3:5, 6.
The earth in the pre-Flood days was out of water in the sense that the ground on which men lived and walked stood above the waters of the seas and rivers. Yet, it was in the midst of water, since a vast quantity of it surrounded the earth, suspended far above its surface.
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