Disturbing Christian Sites

[Sharky]

If christianity had a downfall, these articles are it.

http://rapture.netfirms.com/hptest.html

The base link is here: http://rapture.netfirms.com/aanfmenu.html

If you read most of the articles, you can see that alot of them accuse you as being the worst christian. It's extremely in-your-face-i'm-better type of attitude. Though some of the teachings there are good, the way they display it is offensive enough to see that they're telling you are useless and must be saved and that only THEY can help you.

I seriously don't think that's the right attitude to put the love of God into practise. I'm probably sounding a bit cranky about this. Sharky can be veeery cranky . If i'm wrong, i will gladly step down being mistaken since i'm here to just point it out. But that's the way i see how this site is doing it. Take a read at a few of the articles especially the first link. any opinions?

 

[andrea_andrea]

i STRONGLY DISLIKE that site too sharky

 

[Sharky]

From the site:"As of November 2001, a Harry Potter movie has been released. It was a big hit for the movie theaters as parents scrambled for tickets so their children could be exposed to more Satanic occultism. I've heard that kids are even bringing broomsticks to the movie as Potter apparently rides a broomstick. The movie is long (approx 2 1/2 hours) and both Potter and the adults swear and take the Lord's name in vain. What a wonderful children's movie! (wonderful if you belong to the devil!) For those who belong to God, everything to do with Potter is really a non-issue. It is occultic, evil, and demonic and no one who claims to be a Christian should have any part of it! THIS IS A FACT - HELLBOUND LOST SINNER! If you have attended the movie, or allowed your children to attend. Or if you or your children have read the satanic books. Then know this: YOU ARE NOT SAVED! YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN! "

I feel sorry for the site and the author .

 

[Gerry]

The person who wrote this is very confused. They just crawled up on God's Throne and made a judgement about another's salvation. This is very dangerous. God will not hold that kind of Judgement guiltless.

I also disagree with Harry Potter. However, The way to win over people who do like it, is through loving guidence, Not harsh judgement. And the Judgement is wrong.

I will check the site and read a few articles later.

 

[Susan]

A little message for those people at that site:

Judge not, lest you be judged.
And it does indeed look like they've been doing this:  

 

[Susan]

The most horrible mess of ruined code to grace the MB. LOL

And I still can't remember how to convert it to show up. . .

 

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[Susan]

&nbsp; silly post

 

[Susan]

OOOPS! Posted the same time you posted your second post. LOL

 

[Susan]

I read the site. . . I think these people put David Cloud and Berit Kjos to shame when it comes to being the best spreaders of fear and hyper-legalists. . .

BTW I do wonder what the owners of that site are into other than just being angry and judgmental (which is bad enough). Usually when you're THAT strict, THAT much of a know-it-all type, it's sort of like an overinflated balloon. . .something has to "give" somewhere.

 

[Sharky]

they're just confused and want to get the message out but in my eyes, that's not the correct way or attitude.

 

[Kyle]

I agree, that the Harry Potter article is Biblically inaccurate because of this quote:

"If you have attended the movie, or allowed your children to attend. Or if you or your children have read the satanic books. Then know this: YOU ARE NOT SAVED! YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN! "


What if a person went to watch the movie to&nbsp;discern if it is against God or not?&nbsp;&nbsp;Obviously, the author went and saw the movie since he knows what it's all about, so therefore he is condemming his ownself.&nbsp;

The Bible says it is a sin to misguide a child, and also to partake in any sort of approval of witchcraft, sorcery, and magic.&nbsp; The Harry Potter movies and books surely promote all three, and parents that teach their children that witchcraft, sorcery, and magic are "fun and good" could very well be misguiding their children in opposition to God.

Really, I think this site was put together by a few good Christians, but this particular author of the Harry Potter article does not have a strong command of the written English language.

I looked throughout the rest of the site, and there are several excellent links and articles on a variety of topics.&nbsp; The cult section is mostly very good overall,&nbsp;and at the least&nbsp;it gets a person thinking about if something is really what it claims or not.


However, I must admit I am disappointed with several of the reactions in this thread.&nbsp; They are of mocking tone.&nbsp; They claim that this site is judgemental, but yet are you not judging this site yourself?&nbsp; And on top of that, insulting others?&nbsp;

Sometimes it does take someone to speak up boldly and proclaim the Gospel, and speak the Truth.&nbsp;

If we are all lovey dovey and nodding together with satanists, for example,&nbsp;and do not speak up with "gentleness and respect" when "given the opportunity to do so," as the Bible says, then we "are against God."&nbsp; First love and obey God, then love one another through Him.

After a careful review, it is my opinion that this site is trying to do this, but again, hasn't thought its written communication over carefully enough in a few out of many articles.&nbsp;

And if we don't email the guy at least in "gentleness and respect," then what Good are we doing?&nbsp; Maybe he just forgot to edit this part and meant something else, because the majority of the articles on the site are of decent Biblical grounding.&nbsp; The author's name is Alan Yusko, and his email is: saved@rapture-report.com

I can tell you from experience that this guy has put 1000s of hours into the site, if&nbsp;just a few adjustments were made in some of his articles it could really help change more lives.&nbsp; Maybe someone here is feeling a call to help him out with the editing, because it looks like he does need it.

How about we pray for him, that he would listen to our words of Love in Christ, and work on&nbsp;being Biblically more clear and concise for Christ?&nbsp; We are not all perfect, and he is really trying hard to serve God.

Also, to say that "this is not the way to get the message out in MY eyes"&nbsp;can be viewed&nbsp;as humanistically judgemental as the Harry Potter article.&nbsp; The Bible tells us the question to ask is rather, "How does this message look in God's eyes, and what does God's Word say about this?"&nbsp;

--If a thought doesn't line up with God's Word in the Love of Christ Jesus, then get rid of it.

 

[Sharky]

Yeah i recognise the guy oput in alot of effort into the site so yeah i'm probably over reacting. I was pointing out a few of the articles though. I've read most of them and a section with the Rapture in it proved some intersting points to ponder.

I feel though i know it's hard to intepret words properly, i'm sure he was doing it with good intentions but i couldn't help thinking he's accusing even belivers about their faith and love. But anywho, yeah i've been over reacting.

 

[Rising_Suns]

It's just this kind of carelessness with words (or simply self-rightcheous attitudes) that put people off from the Christian faith.

 

[Sharky]

you talking about me or the articles?

 

[Susan]

I'm sorry and will just slime out of here. . .as I am definitely no good. . .

 

[Kyle]

I emailed the site and will spend time in prayer over it. Please join me if you have a minute.

Susan:
Hey, if you've gotta slime, then I'm nothing but your dried drippings in the gutter. However, it pains me to hear you say "i'm no good" even as a joke!

We all sin (Rom 3:23).
"Christians [who have repented and put their honest belief in Jesus Christ as Lord as the only Authority and in His Word] are children of God" (John 1:12)
"Christians are members of Christ's body in a new Creation" (1 Cor 12:27, Eph 5:30).
"Christians are citizens of Heaven, seated in Heaven right now" (Phil 3:20, Eph 2:6).

-We can STOMP any hint of self-defeating thoughts through the Power and Truth of Christ by His Word.

 

[Hishandmaiden]

I was about to criticise the site myself, without taking a good and proper look at it, just by the Harry Potter article Sharky posted here. WEll, kyle, your view point does help to influence what I think.

 

[Kyle]

Thanks rpgal, and very kind and honest words of encouragement.&nbsp;

I didn't mean to come down on you Sharkey and single&nbsp;you out, it is easier to write my post since I already had several to view, including yours.&nbsp; I most likely would have said the same thing, [and have already said a lot of&nbsp;stuff I shouldn't have&nbsp;on this site alone,]&nbsp;and then&nbsp;you might have attempted to give me a nudge in the right direction, for example.&nbsp;

 

[Martin]

"If you have attended the movie, or allowed your children to attend. Or if you or your children have read the satanic books. Then know this: YOU ARE NOT SAVED! YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN! "

Let's not forget that Jesus died for our sins - past, present and future, so if you have accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour then you are saved even though you sin. Whether or not you sin is not an indication of whether you are saved, otherwise we are all doomed......