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Dispensational Time-line ?

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is the following time-line a succinct summary of Scripture ?




Dispensation "Ages"

Law
(Genesis - Exodus 19)
Patriarchs: c.2000-1000 BC

(Exodus 19 - Acts 2)
Priests: c.1000 BC - 30 AD​


Grace

(Acts 2 to Revelation 20)
Church: c.30 AD - ???​


Victory
(Revelation 19)
Heavenly-warrior defeats "beast"
(Revelation 20:4-6)
Thousand-year Reign: ???
First Resurrection to Saints

(Revelation 20:7-10)
Tribulation: ???
Satan briefly unbound

(Revelation 20:11+)
Eternal Empire: ???
general Resurrection & Judgement
 

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Separately, may i please offer the following specific dates ?




Dispensation "Ages"

Law
(Genesis - Exodus 19)
Patriarchs: c.2000-1000 BC

(Exodus 19 - Acts 2)
Priests: c.1000 BC - 30 AD​


Grace

(Acts 2 to Revelation 20)
Church: c.30 AD - 300 AD
Christ to Constantine


Victory
(Revelation 19)
Heavenly-warrior defeats "beast", i.e. Constantine conquers Rome for Christianity
(Revelation 20:4-6)
Thousand-year Reign: 5th - 15th centuries AD
First Resurrection to Saints, i.e. founding to fall of Christian Constantinople

(Revelation 20:7-10)
Tribulation: 15th - 21st centuries AD
Satan briefly unbound, i.e. Renaissance (appreciation of pre-Christian paganisms), Wars of Religion, WWI-II

(Revelation 20:11+)
Eternal Empire: ???
general Resurrection & Judgement
 
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Christian "Victory" = Council of Nicaea in 325 AD
Constantine conquered Rome (the beast) to Christianity in the early 4th century AD, fulfilling the Prophesy of the Heavenly-warrior (Rev 19). Constantine founded Constantinople as his Christian capital. The Christian Byzantine Empire outlived Rome for a thousand years, so fulfilling the Prophesy of the Millennial Kingdom (Rev 20). In Greek, "Nike" means "Victory". Meanwhile...



modern "Age" = Tribulation, not yet complete...
Revelation is recursive, repeatedly recapitulating the same sequence of 7-fold Divine Wrath, so that the following are all equivalent:
  • 7 seals (Rev 6-8)
  • 7 trumpets (Rev 8-11)
  • 7 bowls (Rev 15-16)
The first 5 "disasters" deal with conquering cavalry, e.g. Four Horsemen (Rev 6), commanded by Abaddon / Apollyon the Destroyer:
They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer) (Rev 9:11)
who bring about a Dark Age:
The fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness (Rev 16:10)
The beast represents ancient Rome; its kingdom was the Roman empire; which collapsed in the 5th century AD, ushering in the European Dark Ages (5th-15th centuries AD), under the onslaught of Attila the Hun, and his Hunnic horsemen, whom Christians called the "Scourge of God".

Since then, the 6th "disaster" may have happened. For, the 6th "disaster" deals with armies from the east, crossing the Euphrates. The conquest of Christian Constantinople, ending the Millennial Kingdom of Byzantium (purportedly per a Muslim Prophesy, cp. Fetih 1453), by the Ottoman Turks, from the Middle East, may have fulfilled the 6th "disaster"...



7th "disaster" & Doomsday
Purportedly, when the 7th "disaster" occurs, no human will not know, that Doomsday is upon this planet. The description of Doomsday resembles earth being blasted, by a "death-star laser", whose jarring impact gouges out a crater, spraying a scree of ejecta debris, raining down on people, as hundred-pound hailstones:
Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake. (Rev 8:5)

And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm. (Rev 11:19)

Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since mankind has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. Every island fled away [vanished] and the mountains could not be found [no longer seen]. From the sky huge hailstones, each weighing about a hundred pounds, fell on people. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible. (Rev 16:18-21)
The surface of earth is melted, into a molten magma "lake of fire" (Rev 20), as earth's oceans are boiled away (Rev 21), burning everything down to bare bedrock (2 Pet 3).
 
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According to St. Paul (1 Cor 15:42), the Resurrection of Believers (Rev 20:4) occurs "after the last trumpet". So, all of the 7 trumpets; and, equivalently, all of the 7 seals & 7 bowls; must occur before the Resurrection of Christians into the Millennial Kingdom. Thus, the age of Tribulations (all 7 "Divine disasters") precedes the Millennial Kingdom. The age of Tribulations involves harassing horsemen, conquering cavalry, led by "Abaddon / Apollyon the Destroyer", i.e. Attila the Hun; ruin of the "throne of the beast", i.e. Rome as capital of the empire, cp. sack of Rome in 410 AD & 455 AD; eastern armies on the Euphrates river, c.p. the Anastasian War between Byzantium & Persia; massive earthquakes, cp. 526 AD Antioch quake, 551 AD Beirut quake, 557 AD Constantinople quake; and violent weather, cp. 536 AD climatic catastrophe; ushering in a dark age over the beastly kingdom, as all of the above did do, to the western world, which endured Dark Ages for a further thousand years.

So, perhaps the (first) age of Tribulations (all 7 "Cosmic Catastrophes") reflects the Fall of Rome, in the 5th - 6th centuries AD, amidst geological & climatic catastrophes, which threw the western world, into a thousand years of Dark Ages (5th - 15th centuries AD) ?

And, perhaps the Millennial Kingdom represents Christian Constantinople, and the Byzantine empire, which endured a thousand years from the Fall of Rome (5th - 15th centuries AD) ?

And, perhaps the (second) age of Tribulation (brief unbinding of Satan) reflects the modern era, since the conquest of Constantinople (15th - 21st centuries AD), some time before Doomsday ? Many Christians seem to identify the modern era, with the first age of Tribulations (Rev 18-19); but re-identifying the modern era, with the second age of Tribulation (Rev 20), could account for Christian claims. Perhaps today mankind (metaphorically) stands somewhere circa Rev 20:9 ?

If so, then, supposedly, sometime "Biblically soon" (i.e. "within several Scriptural sentences"), "fire from heaven" will slag the surface of earth into a molten magma "lake of fire" (Rev 20), which will boil away earth's oceans (Rev 21), and burn everything back to char-blackened bedrock (2 Pet 3).
 
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is the following time-line a succinct summary of Scripture ?

Dispensation "Ages"

Law
(Genesis - Exodus 19)
Patriarchs: c.2000-1000 BC

(Exodus 19 - Acts 2)
Priests: c.1000 BC - 30 AD​


Grace

(Acts 2 to Revelation 20)
Church: c.30 AD - ???​


Victory
(Revelation 19)
Heavenly-warrior defeats "beast"
(Revelation 20:4-6)
Thousand-year Reign: ???
First Resurrection to Saints

(Revelation 20:7-10)
Tribulation: ???
Satan briefly unbound

(Revelation 20:11+)
Eternal Empire: ???
general Resurrection & Judgement

Although one can find numerous dispensation in the Bible, the vast majority believe that there are 7 major dispensations. They may not all agree on every point in each dispensation. In each dispensation we can see how God's dealing with man have changed.

In each dispensation we find its Name:
A. Establishment
B. Responsibility
C. Failure
D. Judgment

The following is taken from a chart published by the Berean Bible Society.

1. DISPENSATION OF INNOCENCE:

A. God created man in His image and therefore God dealt with man in his innocence (Gen. 1:26,27).
B. Man was responsible to keep it (Gene. 2:15) and to abstain from partaking of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (Gen. 2:17)
C. Man's failure came when Adam and Eve disobeyed God and ate of the forbidden fruit (Gen. 3:6).
D. Judgment came upon them as they were expelled from the garden and the perfect environment in which they had lived was cursed. Thus sin, sorrow, and death entered the word (Gen.3:16-19; 23,24; Rom. 5:12-14).

2. DISPENSATION OF CONSCIENCE;

A. God dispensed conscience to Adam and Eve who, when they disobeyed Him, realized that they were naked, thus manifesting that they had come to know good and evil (Gen.3:7-10).

B. Now that conscience was to govern man, he was responsible "...to know good and evil..." Gen. 3:22).
God commamded Cain and Abe; to bring a blood sacrifice to be accepted by Him (Gen. 4:1-4) to be offered by faith (Heb. 11.4).

C. Cain disobeyed God in failing to bring an acceptable sacrifice, and in a jealous rage killed his brother Abel (Gen. 4:5-15)
Man became polygamous (Gen. 4:19).
As men refused to heed their conscience through them the earth became corrupt and was filled with violence (Gen. 6:11-13).

D. God's judgment upon the corrupt and violent world came with the universal flood in the days of Noah (Gen. 6:17).

3. DISPENSATION OF HUMAN GOVERNMENT.

A. God revealed that man was not to govern, thus strongly implying the rise of nations and the need for the establishment of human government (Gen:5,6).
The fear of man was placed on the beast of the field and man was permitted to eat meat (Gen. 9:2,3).

B. Man was responsible to establish laws that were in accordance with God's righteous standards. He was responsible to "be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein" (Gen. 9:7)
In the establishment of human government, it became man's responsibility to institute capital punishment in order to obey God when He said "whoso shedeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed. For in the image of God made He man." (Gen. 9:6).

C. Man failed when they disobeyed God's command to bring forth abundantly and, in uniting together, failed to multiply in the earth (Gen. 11:4).
In defiance of the Holy one of heaven, they erected the so-called Tower of Babel to pay homage to the astrological signs of heaven. (Gen 11:3,4; cf. Rom. 1:22,23).
In their desire to make a name for themselves (Gen. 11:4), men failed to form a human government in accordance with God's righteous standard, thus producing the spirit of lawlessness described in Romans Chapter 1.

D. Judgment came swiftly as the Lord confounded their language and scattered them abroad upon the face of the earth (Gen. 11:7-9).

4. DISPENSATION OF PROMISE.

A. God dispensed a promise to Abraham: "And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shall be a blessing:...and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed" (Gen. 12:2,3).
"...multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the seashore..." (Gen.22:17), and unto them would be given a land called Canaan (Gen. 15:18).

B. Although the covenant that God established with Abraham was unconditional, Abraham and his descendants were responsible to trust God to fulfill His promise (Gen. 26:1-4; 28:10-15).
Circumcision was mandatory as a seal of the covenant which God established with Abraham (Gen. 17:9-14).

C. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob failed to trust God completely. Instead of going directly to the land of Canaan from Ur of the Chaldees, Abraham came to Haran and dwelt there until his father died (Acts 7:4).
When a famine came upon the land, Isaac reluctantly obeyed God by not going into Egypt; however, he moved to Gerar, as close to Egypt as possible (Gen. 26:1-6).
Jacob stole the birthright from his brother Esau (Gen. 25:24-34) and later he forsook the land of his forefathers and, under the permissive will of God, moved to Egypt (Gen. 41:54-57; cf. Gen. 46:26).

D. God's judgment came upon Israel when she remained in Egypt for 400 years in severe bondage to Egyptians.

5. DISPENSATION OF LAW;

A. God dispensed the Law to Moses. The purpose of the Law was to give Israel the knowledge of sin (Rom. 3:20). The Law had the following characteristics:

1). MORAL: The Ten Commandments were given to govern the moral life of Israel (Ex. 20).
2). CIVIL: The judgments wee given to govern the individual Israelite in his dealing with others (Ex. 21).
3). CEREMONIAL; Provisions wee formulated by which an atonement for sins could be made (Lev. 16).

B. Since the Covenants of the Law or the Mosaic Covenant, was conditional, those who were placed under it were responsible to keep all the 613 Commandments; thus Israel could only realize the blessings of God when she obeyed His voice (Es. 19:3-7).

C. Although Israel agreed to do "...All that the lord hath spoken..." (Ex.19:8) the promise to obey soon proved to be a yoke about her neck (Acts 15:10), and Israel's failure under the Dispensation of Law are too numerous to list: however, some of the more notable were:

1). Idol Worship (Es. 32:1-6).
2). Unbelief (Num. 13:26-33).
3). Murmuring (Num. 16:1-8).
4). Fornication (Num. 25:1-3).
5). Rejection of Messiah (John 19:15,16).

D. God's judgment came upon Israel many times during the approximately 1500 years that the nation was under the Dispensation of Law. Among the more devastating calamities that befell here were:

1). The Assyrian Captivity (2 Kings 17:4-6; 15-18).
2). The Babylonian Captivity (2 Chron. 36:11-21).
3). The setting aside of Israel in unbelief at the stoning of Stephen (Acts 7).

6. DISPENSATION OF GRACE;

A. God dispenses grace to the lost and dying world (Eph. 2:5; 3:2).

In the dispensation of grace, a new creation has been brought into existence (2 Cor. 5:17) which is called "...the Church, which is His Body..." (Eph. 1:22, 23). This Church is made up of the Jew and Gentiles without distinction (Eph. 2:14-17).

Christ is the Head of the Body (Col. 1:18) and holds an exalted position as H carries out His heavenly ministry (Phil. 2:9; Eph. 1:20-23).

Believer are baptized spiritually by the Holy Spirit into the Body of Christ (1Cor. 12:13) in contrast with those at Pentecost who were baptized by Christ with the Holy Ghost (Matt. 3:11; Acts 1:5).

B. Men and women are responsible to receive the written Word of God by faith and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved (Acts 16:31). Salvation is obtained by grace through faith, not of works )Eph. 2:5-9).

Member of the Body of Christ are responsible to preach Jesus Christ according to the revelation of the Mystery (Rom. 16:25; 1 Cor. 9:16-18) and "to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery (Eph. 3:9) by doing the work of an evangelist (2 Tim. 4:5).

C. To a very great degree men and women have failed to trust God; to believe His Word, and to receive His Son, Jesus Christ, as their savior.

The Church today has failed miserably in even acknowledging the Mystery, let alone making it known. Sadly, it is repeating the same mistake made by early members of the Body when they forsook the message of the Apostle Paul (2 Tim. 1:15).

D. The Dispensation of Grace will close when "the fullness of the Gentiles be come in" (Rom. 11:25). All the members of the Church which is his Body, living and dead will then "...be caught up together ...in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air..." (1 Thess. 4:17), and will appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ. At that time thorough review of their lives will indicate whether or not they have been faithful to the message of God's grace with which they been entrusted and called upon to proclaim (1Cor. 3:9-17; 2 Cor. 5:10,11; Eph. 3:9; Col. 1:27).

Those unsaved living after the close of this Dispensation will go into the seven year tribulation. The unsaved who die during this Dispensation will join the other unsaved dead of all ages at the Great White Throne to be cast into the lake of fire. (Rev. 20:11-15).

7. DISPENSATION OF DIVINE GOVERNMENT: (The age of the Jewish nation continues.)

A. God will dispense both wrath and justice upon the world which has rejected His son (Psa. 2:1-12).

God's prophetic Program, which was temporarily interrupted when the Dispensation of Grace began, will resume at "the time of Jacob's trouble" (Jer. 30:7). Thus Israel will again be in view as the world endures seven years of Tribulation (Rev. 7:1-8.

The great tribulation is a prelude to the coming Millennial Kingdom and has as it purpose the overthrowing of the kingdoms of the world and the establishment of "the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ" (Rev. 11:15), and will close with the Second Coming of Christ (Jer. 30:7; Isa. 24:1; Ezek. 38:14-23, Matt. 24:29,30.

The Second Coming of Christ will initiate His reign as king for a period of 1000 years (Rev. 20:4,5,7). During His reign the throne of David will be established (2 Sam. 7:16; Matt. 19:28; Acts 2:30). Justice will fill the earth (Jere. 23:5,6); peace will prevail (Isa. 9:6,7), and the Abrahamic, Davidic, and Palestinian Covenants will be fulfilled.

B. It will be Israel's responsibility to declare that Christ is indeed the Messiah of Israel. Repentance and baptism will again be preached (Mark 16:15,16; Acts 2:38; cf. Rev. 9:21) and certain aspects of the Law, such as the Sabbath, must again be observed (Matt. 24:20).

C. In the face of almost unbelievable judgment men will blaspheme God during the tribulation (Reve. 16:11,21) and in the Millennial Kingdom will continue to sin against God (Isa. 65:20). Although the Lord Jesus Christ rules in righteousness for 1000 years, there will be those who rebel at the end of the millennium and challenge His authority (Reve. 20:7-9).

D. With the Church, the body of Christ, seated with Him in the heavenlies, the Kingdom Age will be consummated of all the previous ages and there will be a number of judgments. The establishment of the "kingdoms our Lord, and His Christ" will be accomplished by the judging and chastening of Israel (Matthew 25:14-30), and the punishing of the nations (Matt. 25:31-46).

At the end of the Millennial Kingdom, all of the unsaved of all the ages will stand before the Great White Throne of God and be condemned to spend eternity in the lake of fire (Rev. 20:11-15).

The great day of the Lord will close when the heavens and earth are consumed with fire, as God prepares to execute His eternal purpose (2 Peter 3:10; Eph. 1:10).

[be]8. DISPENSATION OF THE FULNES OF TIME; ( Many do not consider this a dispensation.)[/be]

A. All saints will live through eternity in perfect harmony with one another, and since all things have been gathered together in Christ, it seems likely that the heaven and the earth will be open to all the redeemed of all ages. God will be all in all (cur 5:9).

B. All will serve Him with gladness (Cora:9).

C. There will be no more failures.

D. There will be no more judgment.

"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying; neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." (Rev 21:4).
 
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If the beast of the sea is the Roman empire (seen from a Judean perspective); and if the beast of the land is the Jerusalem Temple, run by Roman-allied Sadducees; and if the horns of the sea-beast are kings; then the two horns of land-beast are two high-priests, i.e. Ananias & Caiaphas (who, according to Josephus, dominated the Temple, up until the Jewish War) ?

If the seven heads of the sea-beast are seven hills, and also seven kings; and if five had fallen, before Revelations was written; then five kings (Roman Caesars) had passed (JC, A, T, Cal, Cla), and also five hills of Rome had been destroyed (Great Fire of Rome in 64 AD razed 10 of 14 districts, i.e. 5 parts of 7 of the city) ? Revelations was written c.66 AD ?

If
Rev 17:10 = Nero & Galba
Rev 17:11 = year of 4 emperors (Roman "beast" without any "head" of state)
then
Rev 17:12 = ten more emperors (who will persecute Christians, Rev 17:14, causing Christians great tribulation for ten days, Rev 2:10)
?
Those ten emperors represent the Flavians (1st century AD), the "good" emperors (2nd century AD), through to Diocletian (3rd century AD), the last emperor to persecute Christianity ? They (e.g. Trajan, Hadrian) brought "the great city" Jerusalem to ruin (Rev 17:16) ?

The "false prophet" of the land-beast (Rev 16:13, 19:20, 20:10) represents Roman religion (Matt 7:15, "wolves" symbolizing the wolf-mother of Romulus & Remus), i.e. the imperial cult ?

If Rome is associated with seven (seven hills), then could St. John's letter, to seven churches, be a veiled reference, to seven Christian communities in Rome (one on each hill) ?
 
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quote=Widdekind;62684948 is the following time-line a succinct summary of Scripture ?




Dispensation "Ages"

Law
(Genesis - Exodus 19)
Patriarchs: c.2000-1000 BC

(Exodus 19 - Acts 2)
Priests: c.1000 BC - 30 AD
Grace
(Acts 2 to Revelation 20) Acts 2 to Rev 4
Church: c.30 AD - ???
Victory
(Revelation 19)
Heavenly-warrior defeats "beast"
(Revelation 20:4-6)
Thousand-year Reign: Thru out the bible within context .... promises to both groups
First Resurrection to Saints

(Revelation 20:7-10)
Tribulation: ??? part of law ... judgement ... daniels 70th week
Satan briefly unbound after Great Trib released after a 1000 yrs

(Revelation 20:11+)
Eternal Empire: ??? After the Great White Throne Judgement 2 peter 3:11-13

general Resurrection & Judgement 1 cor 15:23 -24 two groups who are saved are resurrected then the third group get judged

 
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Divine schedule ?

the following "chialist" simple & straight-forward reading of Revelation was common, in early Christianity, under the persistent persecutions, of pagan Imperial Rome; numerous sources are citable:

Tribulation (Rev 12-17) = pagan Imperial persecutions of early Christianity (e.g. Nero, Domitian, Diocletian) (1st - 3rd centuries AD)

Fall of Babylon (Rev 18-19) = fall of pagan Empire of Rome (4th-5th centuries AD)
Holy Warrior (Rev 19) = Emperor Constantine (4th century AD)
Millennial Kingdom (Rev 20:1-6) = Byzantine Empire of Christian Constantinople

Satan un-bound (Rev 20:7) = conquest of Christian Constantinople (15th century AD)
End-Times (Rev 20:8-9) (15th century AD - present)
Gog & Magog = global international Communism et al.

Doomsday (Rev 20:10)
Divine Victory (Rev 20:11+)




'tis about That Time ?

For thousands of years, Jews (and hence Christians) have reckoned the beginning of Biblical time to circa 4000 BC. And, in the early Christian era, Jews & Christians reckoned that Divine Plan would unfold over circa 6000 years. So, in ancient times, Judaeo-Christians predicted that Doomsday would occur circa 2000 AD. For example, in the first century AD, the Apostle Barnabas wrote:
He speaks of the Sabbath at the beginning of the Creation, "And God made in six days the works of his hands and on the seventh day he made an end, and rested in it and sanctified it." Notice, children, what is the meaning of "He made an end in six days"? He means this: that the Lord will make an end of everything in six thousand years, for a day with him means a thousand years ... So then, children, in six days, that is in six thousand years, everything will be completed. "And he rested on the seventh day." This means, when his Son comes he will destroy the time of the wicked one, and will judge the godless, and will change the sun and the moon and the stars, and then he will truly rest on the seventh day (Epistle of Barnabas, 15:3-5)
And, in the third century AD, Hippolytus of Rome wrote:
And 6,000 years must needs be accomplished, in order that the Sabbath may come, the rest, the holy day "on which God rested from all His works." For the Sabbath is the type and emblem of the future kingdom of the saints, when they "shall reign with Christ," when He comes from heaven, as John says in his Apocalypse: for "a day with the Lord is as a thousand years." Since, then, in six days God made all things, it follows that 6, 000 years must be fulfilled (Hippolytus. On the HexaËmeron, Or Six Days' Work).
Also in the third century AD, Rabbi Kettina taught:
In Rosh Hashanah 31a and Sanhedrin 97a, Kettina predictes that the world will exist for six thousand years, and then, in the seventh millenium, be utterly destroyed. His view is based on an interpretation of Isaiah 11:11, in which the word day is said to be reckoned by God as one thousand years. Psalm 90:4 uses a similar metaphor (Kolatach. Masters of the Talmud, p.244.)
Other Rabbinical contemporaries concurred:
Rabbi Kattina taught:

Six thousand years shall the world exist, and one thousand, the seventh, it shall be desolate, as it is written [Deuteronomy 15:1], "And the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day." ... Just as the seventh year is one year of release in seven, so is the world: one thousand years out of seven shall be fallow.​

To which Rabbi Eliyyahu replies:

The world is to exist six thousand years. In the first two thousand there was desolation [no Torah]; two thousand years the Torah flourished; and the next two thousand years is the Messianic era, but through our many iniquities all these years have been lost.​

(Sanhedrin 93b)
R. Kattina said: Six thousand years shall the world exist, and one [thousand, the seventh], it shall be desolate, as it is written, And the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day [Isaiah 2:11].

Abaye said: it will be desolate two [thousand], as it is said, After two days will he revive us: in the third day, he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight [Hosea 6:2].

It has been taught in accordance with R. Kattina: Just as the seventh year is one year of release in seven, so is the world: one thousand years out of seven shall be fallow, as it is written, And the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day [ibid.]; and it is further said, A Psalm and song for the Sabbath day [Psalm 92:1], meaning the day that is altogether Sabbath; and it is also said, For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past [Psalm 90:4].

The Tanna debe Eliyyahu teaches: The world is to exist six thousand years. In the first two thousand there was desolation [no Torah]; two thousand years the Torah flourished; and the next two thousand years is the Messianic era, but through our many iniquities all these years have been lost.

(Sanhedrin 97)
This tradition seems echoed, in "Maya 2012" and the "Prophesy of the Popes".




Tribulation lasted 300 years, End-Times to last as long ?

Circa 30 AD, Jesus' earthly ministry cast Satan down onto earth (Luke 10:18). And, the Tribulation period, from that moment (Rev 12:10) to the (first) defeat of the Devil via the victory of Christianity (Rev 12:12 = Rev 19), lasted only a "short span" in Biblical terms; but lasted several centuries (during which Christians were persistently persecuted) in human terms (cp. 2 Pet 3:8).

Similarly, the End-Times period, from the un-binding of Satan (Rev 20:7) to Doomsday (Rev 20:10), is Prophesied to last only a "little time" in Biblical terms. Qualitatively, "short span" seems similar to "little time". So, the End-Times is apparently Prophesied to last some similar span of time, i.e. "several centuries". And, the span of time, from the 15th to 21st centuries AD, is both crudely qualitatively similar, to the several centuries of pagan persecutions of Christians; and also points to the same present epoch, circa 2000 AD, as "about That Time".
 
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