Dispensational Proposition #1

[A Brother In Christ]

It is more than obvious to me that this chapter is speaking of the New Testament Church not Israel. Kings and Queens have been and will be subservient to the Church of Jesus Christ.


GLJCA

please deal with how kings and queens of gentiles become nurses maids[servants] in Isa 49:22-23

as in Gal 3:28 in the body of Christ there is no such distinctions

 

[GLJCA]

please deal with how kings and queens of gentiles become nurses maids[servants] in Isa 49:22-23

as in Gal 3:28 in the body of Christ there is no such distinctions

We have already seen in history where Kings and Queens were subject to the Church. If a king went against church doctrine the church threatened him with excommunication. Excommunication used to be a horrorfying thing to members of the Church. Of course that is when the Church disciplined it's members unlike today where the church turns a blind eye to what it's members do from abortion to adultery.

As an example, King Henry of Austria walked barefoot in the snow to the Church and sat three days by the door in penitant garb because the church had excommunicated him. He supposedly sat and stood on ice the whole time until he was allowed to confess his sin and be restored to the Church.

Again in Revelation the church of Philadelphia was promised that Jews of the synogogue of Satan would come and worship at their feet which is directly connected with Isa 49:23.

as in Gal 3:28 in the body of Christ there is no such distinctions

I don't understand this comment. What distinction are you talking about?

I would like to know what you are saying that Isa 49:22-23 is saying? At what time, even in the future, will Gentiles be servants to the Jews? Even in, what you call, the Millennial reign Gentile Christians will judge the 12 tribes of Israel. So when does this prophecy come about?

I am saying that those scriptures are speaking about the Church. In verse 2-8 the reference to Christ is unmistakeable. In verse 10 through the end of the chapter, he is speaking of the church where we see alignments to scriptures talking about the church in the New Testament. You see I don't have problem with these scriptures as I see the Church as Israel today.

As Gentile believers we were grafted into the olive tree, which in OT and NT scriptures, is Covenant Israel. Since being grafted in Paul tells us that we partake of the root(Christ) and the fatness of the olive tree. Therefore all of the promises and prophecies in the OT that were given to Israel now apply to the Church where, as you say, there is no distinction between the Jew and the Gentile.

GLJCA

 

[eph3Nine]

GLGCA said:

I don't understand this comment. What distinction are you talking about?

Thats the whole problem here with your theology, with all due respect. You simply dont SEE any distinctions and they ARE there.

Under Israels program distinctions are made between jew and gentile. Under the present program, (which cannot be the covenant because the covenant was made with ISRAEL ALONE), there ARE no such distinctions because we are IN the dispensation of the GRACE of God and under the MYSTERY program given to Paul for we the Body of Christ.

 

[A Brother In Christ]

Again in Revelation the church of Philadelphia was promised that Jews of the synogogue of Satan would come and worship at their feet which is directly connected with Isa 49:23.

Rev 3:9 ....which say they are Jews and are not...

what are these gentiles doing ?
taking on Jewish promises for there own..

I don't understand this comment. What distinction are you talking about?

I would like to know what you are saying that Isa 49:22-23 is saying? At what time, even in the future, will Gentiles be servants to the Jews? Even in, what you call, the Millennial reign Gentile Christians will judge the 12 tribes of Israel. So when does this prophecy come about?

I am saying that those scriptures are speaking about the Church. In verse 2-8 the reference to Christ is unmistakeable. In verse 10 through the end of the chapter, he is speaking of the church where we see alignments to scriptures talking about the church in the New Testament. You see I don't have problem with these scriptures as I see the Church as Israel today.

As Gentile believers we were grafted into the olive tree, which in OT and NT scriptures, is Covenant Israel. Since being grafted in Paul tells us that we partake of the root(Christ) and the fatness of the olive tree. Therefore all of the promises and prophecies in the OT that were given to Israel now apply to the Church where, as you say, there is no distinction between the Jew and the Gentile.

GLJCA

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew or Geek[race or religious status] there is neither bond nor free[social status] there is neither male or female[sexual status]: for all are all one in Christ Jesus.

Isaiah 49:22 Gentiles a servant [nurse maid] to Jews...future

severe dictinction going on ....