Why do we hate? Why do we seperate ourselves into groups and face off against one another? Is conflict just a part of what we are as human beings? If so, can we overcome this flaw before it destroys us?
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If the divisions come from differing value systems, there might be nothing that we can do about hate.
However, perhaps we can learn to not feel so threatened by others, and that will require improvements to everyone's self-esteem.
eudaimonia,
Mark
However, perhaps we can learn to not feel so threatened by others, and that will require improvements to everyone's self-esteem.
eudaimonia,
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Arthra
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Good point ex-Christian! I don't think though that "conflict" is inherent in human beings but for some it serves their purposes well to encourage and exacerbate conflicts so they can exploit the disunity. The challenge today is how we can better appreciate what unites us and what we all have in common!
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Yes, it's who we are.
Not without a belief system that overcomes this tension and brings us closer together. Like religion.
See ya in Church.
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It is the differences that are the problems and always will be. Creating some kind of harmony between us without addressing the differences is not going to work in the long run. You may obtain some temporary fix, but it will blow up in your face and create a worse problem. If you can figure out why we are different and behave differently, perhaps, you can create a formula for this fix.
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The answer that you are not going to like to hear is our sins. All of us have a bent nature to seek self preservation. It is about I, me, myself, etc. If we had the love of Jesus, then we would not be seeking me, myself, and I. We would be practicing agape love--serving others above self, with no intent to gain for ourselves. Imagine everyone doing that! That would seem so spooky compared to human history.
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I agree. That's why I'm not Baha'i who want to pretend everything's rosy. Arthra continually enters these threads on selective topics (defending Islam; covering over differences, etc.).
Not all messages he believes are from God, are in fact from God.
He likes to down-play, for instance, Islamic aggression - and I asked him and BruceDeLimber what Islamic country the Baha'i are HQ'ed in (and they're not in any - they've been kicked out - and they're now in 'oppressive' Israel).
There are, therefore, differences. Even the fact his church can't exist in the land of its birth doesn't waken him to these differences.
And to a degree it's insulting to the various faiths by downplaying their beliefs in their own uniqueness; their own ideas about truth.
To me this too would stymie real discussion amongst faiths.
To go up to a group of Moslems who believe they have the exclusive take on faith and say "Your faith is just as 'valid' as Christians" would insult them.
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Philothei
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Christ told us He is THE way and it is through Him we go to His Father. He was specific about who God is and who we are as humans also how to relate to Him and to our fellow human beings... He taught us certain truths and we are told to "make disciples" baptizing them. Was Christ not talking about love? Sure He was. It is our responsibility to love. Love does not mean to be "rosy" and "accept" all "avenues" to Him. Christ was specific about HIm be the WAY. We are loving in letting our brothers know where God is and where He is not... After all Christ's sacrifice and coming into the world was about a call, acall to all humanity to turn to God. He taught us that and we are to teach it to our brothers and sisters, to do otherwise is unloving and faulty and bottom line "false" as it does not stand up to the kerygma of God.
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It seems like those who think they have the only right faith and all others are non-believers or practicers of false religions ignite conflict - like they have a monopoly on the Creator God by thier "scriptures" which are written by the hands of the created. If God would have an Angel to transmit anything among us it would be in some kind of unchangeable tablet for the world not written by any of us at all, and what would it say? A lengthy dialog about things of little revelance to all but a particular sect or two or three of a certian region?
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Philothei
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Christ was not the "creature" but God himself....His words were words that came from God not "another man".
In the Scripture it says that we have to be cautious and test the 'spirits" we do not know if an angel is truly from God as he can also be from the devil.
The Truth in Christinity's kerygma is for all not a 'select' few
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