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Colossians said:
excellent, so that makes anything he says orders of magnitude better than anything you say. thanks for confiming that for us.
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Colossians said:Nathan Poe,
You answers are either not well thought out, poor parallels, superficial, evasive, returned questions, sarcasm, wit, diversions, or that which presumes evolution is true.
Thanks, Colossians. I sometimes forget how much better it is to not believe in this kind of theology.Colossians said:Do those that die in childbirth go to heaven or hell?
Hell. (Refer 1 Cor 7:14, Rev 21:27)
Colossians said:gluadys,
I agree. This belongs in the CO section.
(Gluadys implies that her agreement is a weighty event.)
See my answers in Origins Theology.
No thanks.
That doesn't mean God has those attributes. And it sure doesn't mean you understand his motives.Colossians said:All gods are attributed with volition and desire.
Colossians said:Question 6 concerns the pinnacle of creation, man, and the incarnation of Jesus Christ:
"If evolution took its own course, then how is it that man is in God's image?
Colossians said:For if that which has formed by chance is in God's image, then God is a necessarily undefined. How could God's Son be guaranteed of a predetermined ministry?"
Colossians said:Nathan Poe,
You answers are either not well thought out, poor parallels, superficial, evasive, returned questions, sarcasm, wit, diversions, or that which presumes evolution is true.
Whichever the case, they are not worthy of response.
Colossians said:To all the evolutionists sitting up there on the current viewers perch, when you start to contribute significantly more than your nervous one-liners, I will take you seriously.
Until then, be advised that Jesus Christ is Lord, and you're not.
Good night. It is late.
AirPo said:When you lose the smug attitude, perhaps the evolutionists will take you seriously.
Colossians said:All gods are attributed with volition and desire. These are the universals upon which this thread is based. Your point is focussed on packaging only, and is such is invalid.
Colossians said:To all the evolutionists sitting up there on the current viewers perch, when you start to contribute significantly more than your nervous one-liners, I will take you seriously.
Until then, be advised that Jesus Christ is Lord, and you're not.
Good night. It is late.
To all the evolutionists sitting up there on the current viewers perch, when you start to contribute significantly more than your nervous one-liners, I will take you seriously.
Until then, be advised that Jesus Christ is Lord, and you're not.
Colossians said:Nathan Poe,
You answers are either not well thought out, poor parallels, superficial, evasive, returned questions, sarcasm, wit, diversions, or that which presumes evolution is true.
Whichever the case, they are not worthy of response.
There is perhaps one of your answers (a question) which I will respond to as follows:
Is a seven-year-old child accountable?
Yes.
How about three years old?
Yes.
How about a child in the womb?
Yes
Do those that die in childbirth go to heaven or hell?
Hell. (Refer 1 Cor 7:14, Rev 21:27)
So lets try a checklist of the possible moral of a GodColossians said:Nathan Poe,
You answers are either not well thought out, poor parallels, superficial, evasive, returned questions, sarcasm, wit, diversions, or that which presumes evolution is true.
Whichever the case, they are not worthy of response.
There is perhaps one of your answers (a question) which I will respond to as follows:
Is a seven-year-old child accountable?
Yes.
How about three years old?
Yes.
How about a child in the womb?
Yes
Do those that die in childbirth go to heaven or hell?
Hell. (Refer 1 Cor 7:14, Rev 21:27)
You have just forcefully expelled any remaining shred of credibility, charity, understanding and respect from my now-tattered opinion of you. Your posts project a superficial intelligence, yet your unwavering desire to use that intelligence to avoid, insult, belittle and otherwise be a shmuck borders on the obsessive. Should I reply to anything you might offer in the future, it will likely be a mockery of the above tripe.Colossians said:Nathan Poe,
You answers are either not well thought out, poor parallels, superficial, evasive, returned questions, sarcasm, wit, diversions, or that which presumes evolution is true.
Whichever the case, they are not worthy of response.
Then you should have no difficulty explaining even one alleged flaw in my responses.Colossians said:Nathan Poe,
You answers are either not well thought out, poor parallels, superficial, evasive, returned questions, sarcasm, wit, diversions, or that which presumes evolution is true.
Because you do not have one.Whichever the case, they are not worthy of response.
Well then, you have your answer then. If unborn children go to hell, so do the apes, chimps, just about everything down to the ameoba.There is perhaps one of your answers (a question) which I will respond to as follows:
Is a seven-year-old child accountable?
Yes.
How about three years old?
Yes.
How about a child in the womb?
Yes
Do those that die in childbirth go to heaven or hell?
Hell. (Refer 1 Cor 7:14, Rev 21:27)
Well, making YEC look bad isn't all the difficult, or particularly new.Vance said:Collosians himself is definitely the best argument against YEC'ism we have seen around here in a long time. A one-person wrecking crew of the whole concept of young earth creationism. If an atheist wanted to come on these boards and pretend to be a YEC in order to make YEC'ism look bad, he could not do a better job at it than Collosians.
Which makes me wonder . . .
You'll notice that he shifts into Ad Hom with his very first response, indicating he never had an answer in the first place.Arikay said:You can tell when Col doesn't have a answer, because he drops into Ad Hom mode, which is most of his posts.
The point doesn't seem to be a discussion, but for us to find Colossians as brilliant as he does himself.You sometimes wonder if he even bothers to read posts, or if he typed up a bunch of "Your argument is flawed and you are stupid" posts before hand and then just copies and pastes them into his thread everytime someone replies.
Question 1 concerns the motive and fulfillment of your God:
"Presuming your God has volition and desire, and presuming he desired to create, how was such desire fulfilled in allowing matter to evolve through chance mutations? Would you find such an activity personally fulfilling yourself?"
Question 2 concerns the semantic of "creation" and is corollary to question 1:
"How is it that God can be attributed with creating what we see today, if he allowed matter to take its own course?"
Question 3 concerns the assurance of result, and is corollary to question 2:
"How is it that any result at all was guaranteed?"
Question 4 concerns omniscience, and is counter-corollary to question 3:
"How is it that evolution can be said to have proceeded by chance, if the Creator knew the exact result before he began? Would not his beginning the process simply invoke a foreknown destiny, thus pre-nullifying the purpose of chance evolution?"
Question 5 concerns time and is partner to question 1:
"Given that time is irrelevant and a non-entity to an eternal God, what satisfaction did he derive from his waiting for things to take place? At what point in eternity did they take place? How much of eternity preceded their beginning? Given that eternity is undefined, how is it you are sure we are even here?"
Question 6 concerns the pinnacle of creation, man, and the incarnation of Jesus Christ:
"If evolution took its own course, then how is it that man is in God's image? For if that which has formed by chance is in God's image, then God is a necessarily undefined. How could God's Son be guaranteed of a predetermined ministry?"
Question 7 concerns spiritual accountability:
"At what point in the evolutionary chain is a creature considered accountable to God? Why is an ape not accountable? What determines the line to be drawn? When was the line drawn? When the line was drawn, was it drawn unilaterally?"
Question 8 concerns the composite fabric of man and is companion to question 7:
"At what point did man receive a spirit? What was the point of receiving a spirit if he was alive without one? If you say he has no spirit, then how can you also declare that he has an afterlife ahead of him? If you say he has no afterlife, then what is the point of his current life, and what is the point of your debating?
Question 9 concerns your motive:
"What is your deepest motive for rejecting a short, direct, creation, given that such is possible for God to have done? If you say "the evidence", if it were in fact true that God did create in 7 days, how would things look any different?"
Question 10 will sound familiar:
"How do you know there is a God"?
I would wholeheartedly concur with that.Nathan Poe said:What is truly lamentable is that Colossians' self-serving arrogance will tend to, by association, give Christianity a bad name.
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