Discussion of Jeremiah 19:5

[Gregory Thompson]

“They have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind.” (Jeremiah 19:5)

Question for the controversial theology forum: How did something that happened not enter God's mind in advance?

 

[HTacianas]

“They have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind.” (Jeremiah 19:5)

Question for the controversial theology forum: How did something that happened not enter God's mind in advance?

It only means that the thought of sacrificing to an idol never entered the mind of God. In other words, it wasn't his idea.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

It only means that the thought of sacrificing to an idol never entered the mind of God. In other words, it wasn't his idea.

But it was something that happened. So how did not God foreknow it?

 

[Maria Billingsley]

“They have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as offerings to Baal—something I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind.” (Jeremiah 19:5)

Question for the controversial theology forum: How did something that happened not enter God's mind in advance?

It is in parentheses therefore debated. Also, many times God claims no knowledge under certain circumstances. If you seek out these circumstances you will see He is simply conversing with man on their level to emphasize the wickedness of people or to point out sin like in Adam and Eve. Blessings

Example
Then the Lord God called to Adam and said to him, “Where are you?”
10 So he said, “I heard Your voice in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; and I hid myself.”

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Numbers 35:22-23 ERV
22. "You might accidentally kill someone, maybe by pushing or by accidentally hitting them with a tool or weapon.
23. Perhaps you threw a rock that was large enough to kill, but it hit someone you didn't see and killed them. You didn't plan to kill anyone. You didn't hate the person you killed--it was only an accident.

Depending on your definition of "accident" it would seem no such thing could happen in a universe that is under the absolute control of God.
If He did it, it was not an accident.
If He "allowed" it, He may have known about it in advance but was still not the instigator.

Here there is something that specifically says God did not do it, and states it was an accident.

1 Samuel 6:
9. And see, if it goeth up by the way of his own coast to Bethshemesh, then he hath done us this great evil: but if not, then we shall know that it is not his hand that smote us: it was a chance that happened to us.

But one might suggest that this was merely their perception. And their perception might have been wrong.

 

[bling]

God does an excellent job of communicating at our level using our ideas and words. I sure do not want to even think about people sacrificing their own children to a stone, I know it happened, but I do not want to think about it. That might be what God is trying to communicate to us.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

God does an excellent job of communicating at our level using our ideas and words. I sure do not want to even think about people sacrificing their own children to a stone, I know it happened, but I do not want to think about it. That might be what God is trying to communicate to us.

This is true, old idioms and implied sayings get lost with time.