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Discernment over Deepity

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I had a Socratic dialog with ChatGPT, exploring the UFO phenomenon from various critical dimensions, including secular and religious moral and spiritual implications, as well as some insights from cognitive science:

Discernment Over Deepity: Rethinking Spiritual Authority in the Age of UFO's

In an age captivated by otherworldly phenomena—from alien visitations to cryptic cosmic messages—many people have turned to transcendent language to make sense of mysterious experiences. But not all that glitters is gold, and not all that sounds profound is wise. This essay explores a central tension within the growing body of UFO and contactee literature: the contrast between genuine spiritual discernment and what philosopher Daniel Dennett calls "deepities"—statements that sound profound but collapse under scrutiny. In particular, it reflects on how supposed messages from non-human entities often serve more as spiritual distractions than revelations, especially when they bypass context, accountability, or human dignity.

The Allure and Danger of Vague Spirituality

Many so-called alien messages appeal to our hunger for meaning, identity, and transcendence. Phrases like "You are special," "The Earth is awakening," or "We are here to guide your evolution" sound luminous and comforting. But when examined critically, these statements lack clarity, precision, and grounding. They are emotionally potent but intellectually empty—offering the illusion of wisdom while avoiding its substance.

This is the hallmark of the "deepity": a statement that operates on two levels—one trivially true (e.g., we are made of stardust) and one that seems profound but proves hollow upon examination (e.g., we are one with the watchers beyond time). Such messages often seduce people into feeling spiritually chosen or awakened without offering coherent ethical direction or genuine transformation.

Spiritual Manipulation Masquerading as Revelation

There is a critical possibility that these messages are not merely nonsense but manipulative half-truths. Whether these beings are literal aliens, psychological projections, or spiritual intelligences, their communication frequently relies on flattery, fear, and ambiguous calls to responsibility that disempower rather than uplift. Messages that urge children to "save the planet" or that terrify experiencers with disturbing visions are not morally neutral. They shift spiritual burdens onto the innocent while obscuring genuine accountability.

This is especially evident in encounters like the Ariel School incident in Zimbabwe, where children reported telepathic warnings from alien visitors about environmental destruction. While some children responded with awe, others felt fear—particularly the Black African children, who, rooted in ancestral wisdom, instinctively recognized the spiritual ambiguity of such encounters. These visitations, far from enlightening, often left children spiritually destabilized or shaken in their faith.

Mysticism Without Context Is Misdirection

True spiritual wisdom never floats above history, community, or struggle. It is born in context: the prophets speak from exile, Jesus teaches under empire, and transformation emerges through lived suffering, not spectacle. Alien messages, by contrast, often arrive as prepackaged slogans divorced from cultural, moral, or theological roots. They appear weighty, but carry no lived cost.

Unlike scriptural or prophetic speech—rooted in particular histories and concrete calls to justice—the language of these visitors is abstract, symbolic, and noncommittal. Without context, spirituality becomes performance. In that vacuum, deepities thrive, creating a simulation of awakening that distracts from the real work of love, justice, and community.

The Temptation of Awe Without Discernment

Awe is not the same as truth. The modern hunger for the numinous makes people especially vulnerable to dazzling but deceptive messages. Stripped of discernment, awe becomes seduction. Saints and sages have long warned: not all that appears as light is good. Some spiritual encounters confuse, mislead, and imitate holiness while leading people astray.

This caution applies equally to alien contact and religious experience. If a message elevates the ego, obscures moral responsibility, or provokes fear without calling for repentance, it may be a spiritual counterfeit. In biblical terms, it may be demonic—not in the sensationalist sense, but because it leads us away from truth under the guise of transcendence.

Sacred Disruption Arises From Within

True transformation emerges from within the human story. The essay contrasts the manipulative ambiguity of alien messages with the grounded examples of figures like Jesus and Moses—persons deeply rooted in history, culture, and a calling toward justice. These were not ethereal voices descending with abstract slogans, but fully human leaders who addressed real suffering and demanded real change.

Even when disruptive, sacred messages lead toward humility, clarity, and communal healing. They do not isolate, inflate, or confuse. They ask for something costly and generative. They change lives not through mystique, but through grace and love enacted.

Conclusion: The Call to Discernment

This essay ultimately calls for spiritual maturity in the face of increasing spiritual confusion. It warns against replacing discernment with fascination, truth with spectacle, or love with technospiritual poetry. The real sacred path is not found in the shimmer of alien lights or the allure of cosmic jargon. It is found in the humble, grounded work of being human: walking with God, seeking justice, loving mercy, and living the mystery in relationship with others.

We do not need alien affirmations to take responsibility for the Earth. We do not need cryptic messages to remind us we are loved. And we certainly do not need spiritual manipulation disguised as enlightenment. What we need is courage, clarity, and the humility to recognize that true transformation begins not in the sky, but in the soil of our own lives.
 
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Unless they are seen landing with alien creatures coming out of them , UFOs in the sky today are now defunct and have been replaced with drones.
Anybody claiming to see a UFO will be told that they are only seeing drones.

Ahh I long for the good old days before drones came along , it was more interesting.
 
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Unless they are seen landing with alien creatures coming out of them , UFOs in the sky today are now defunct and have been replaced with drones.
Anybody claiming to see a UFO will be told that they are only seeing drones.

Ahh I long for the good old days before drones came along , it was more interesting.
I agree. I personally don’t believe in aliens, because life as we know it, isn’t compatible with other planets.

My opinion only.
 
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I agree. I personally don’t believe in aliens, because life as we know it, isn’t compatible with other planets.

My opinion only.
And I believe your right. Most of us believe they are demons pretending to be aliens.
One abductee case is Travis Walton of fire in the sky fame a non christian , said as he was face to face with an alien on board their ship the alien reached out and ripped off his silver cross necklace and threw it on the floor.

Being a non christian he wasn't trying to make any religious statements , just that he thought it was angry with him.

Another case only this time with a difference , is Pastor Gary Stearman of Prophecy watchers , he believes the craft he saw was from God.

 
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And I believe your right. Most of us believe they are demons pretending to be aliens.
One abductee case is Travis Walton of fire in the sky fame a non christian , said as he was face to face with an alien on board their ship the alien reached out and ripped off his silver cross necklace and threw it on the floor.

Being a non christian he wasn't trying to make any religious statements , just that he thought it was angry with him.

Another case only this time with a difference , is Pastor Gary Stearman of Prophecy watchers , he believes the craft he saw was from God.


His description of his encounter sounds more than a little ambiguous and lacks full details (perhaps for practical reasons, of course). I did a bit of research on him... according to DeepSeek, he believes the UFO phenomenon is evidence of spiritual warfare and deception. Which fits with the thesis drawn out in ChatGPT's essay on the subject. Discernment doesn't mean every light in the sky is demonic, but it does urge us to be cautious, to seek to understand unusual phenomena within a wider context, and not simply focus on the ungrounded fascination, awe, and seduction that these phenomena can inspire.

I've been interested in the subject of UFO's and the paranormal since I was a child. But I've since come to believe I approached the subject with a lack of spiritual discernment, owing to being intellectualy and spiritually naive. Phenomena like this haven't been seriously investigated in terms of their moral and spiritual implications. And I've since come to believe this is part of a wider problem within western science and scholarship, the lack of holistic perspective-seeking. We've been focused on the "what", but not the "why". Questions of meaning and significance were relegated to the realm of "subjective experience" and "religious dogma", and then dismissed altogether.
 
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If anyone is interested just type in UFO 2027.
Wouldn't it be amazing if it turns out to be real.
One of the many headlines you will come across is :

Aliens Will Reveal Themselves in 2027, Claims Former CIA Agent​

 
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If anyone is interested just type in UFO 2027.
Wouldn't it be amazing if it turns out to be real.
One of the many headlines you will come across is :

Aliens Will Reveal Themselves in 2027, Claims Former CIA Agent​


There's two extremes, both have to do with unhealthy fascination.

I'm not into typical American pre-mil apocalypticism, which lends itself to conspiratorial thinking. That in itself is a type of misplaced awe and a subtle attack on faith. The English-speaking world right now is undergoing an inflection point, but the world is bigger than just those particular obsessions, neuroses and delusions.

I have my own theory that places like America have so many UFO sightings because people here are apt to fall for hucksters in general. Whether they be human, or non-human. We carry alot more water for charisma and sensationalism than we do simple things like quiet discernment and wisdom. Our culture is basically sending out a big metaphysical welcome mat to the wierd and frightening.
 
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Now this looks very interesting. Donald Trumps son asks him if he will reveal aliens before he leaves office.
Trumps answer is ...well ...interesting. Should also read the comments under the vid or transcript.


I wonder if he will do it in 2027 ?
Over the years there has been a lot of talk about aliens working with the US Government , meaning the deep state Gov , and that when Trump finally defeats them ( deep state ) that he was going to reveal everything.

Lets wait and see.
 
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