Dirty Sex

[cantata]

That didn't take long. LOL

Yeah, I only know one poster who can't tell the difference between "whoa" and "woe", as well.

This post will get reported also, of course, because I'm hinting about who reported you. Oh well

 

[cantata]

Since those sorts of things focus on bringing this act to a higher point in your life, heightening the experience, enhancing it, etc. it seems like it is a distraction from the truly important things in life.

Sure, it is good to make your food good and tastey but why should somebody spend long amounts of time focusing just on food?

In this matter, it isn't really a Holy thing to focus on something like this.

We should focus on our spiritual selves more than our bodily selves; one is of beasts, the other is of God; we need to look inside ourselves and appreciate the world around us and ourselves before serving our bodies crudely.

Really good sex can be a spiritual experience.

 

[igotbegot]

Really good sex can be a spiritual experience.

Amen to that.

 

[selfinflikted]

Since those sorts of things focus on bringing this act to a higher point in your life, heightening the experience, enhancing it, etc. it seems like it is a distraction from the truly important things in life.

Sure, it is good to make your food good and tastey but why should somebody spend long amounts of time focusing just on food?

In this matter, it isn't really a Holy thing to focus on something like this.

We should focus on our spiritual selves more than our bodily selves; one is of beasts, the other is of God; we need to look inside ourselves and appreciate the world around us and ourselves before serving our bodies crudely.

Fine. Next time you're having sex (or when you finally do have it, if you're a virgin) I'll expect you to be thinking about and concentrating onlyon spirituality, and all things holy. /snicker

In the meantime, next time I'm having sex, I will be concentrating on how much I love my partner and satisfying every carnal need we both have.

 

[sidhe]

Since those sorts of things focus on bringing this act to a higher point in your life, heightening the experience, enhancing it, etc. it seems like it is a distraction from the truly important things in life.

Sure, it is good to make your food good and tastey but why should somebody spend long amounts of time focusing just on food?

In this matter, it isn't really a Holy thing to focus on something like this.

We should focus on our spiritual selves more than our bodily selves; one is of beasts, the other is of God; we need to look inside ourselves and appreciate the world around us and ourselves before serving our bodies crudely.

Ah, spirit good, body bad...sounds like a manichaean heresy to me. Dualism has no support in the OT. In Genesis, God made both the physical and the spiritual, and pronounced it all "very good." In other words, the body is of God just as much as the spirit.

Honestly, until the later influence of Greek and Roman philosophy, dualism was one of the things orthodoxy fought against, both in the form of Manichaeism and some of the Gnostic groups, which insisted that the flesh was something to be defeated.

On topic: I draw the line at mousetraps and excrement. Anything else is fair game.

 

[TheManeki]

That didn't take long. LOL

OT Aside --

Didn't reported posts used to get some kind of icon stating that they had been reported? From the looks of your hilarious post #35, that's not happening anymore.

That certainly seems silly. Not only can we no longer look at the report forums to see why a post was reported in the (and perhaps learn from the faux pas), now we can't even see if a post was reported in the first place.

(I rather missed looking at reported posts and trying to speculate what somebody found offensive about them. Some of my theories were rather elaborate. )

Back to your regularly scheduled program.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Since those sorts of things focus on bringing this act to a higher point in your life, heightening the experience, enhancing it, etc. it seems like it is a distraction from the truly important things in life.

Sex is a part of life. It is one of the truly important things in life.

I agree that sex shouldn't distract one from other important goals in life, but there's no reason why an imaginative sex life should do this.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[gwenmead]

Since those sorts of things focus on bringing this act to a higher point in your life, heightening the experience, enhancing it, etc. it seems like it is a distraction from the truly important things in life.

I would argue that having an interesting and pleasurable sex life is one of the "truly important things".

But there's a lot of variation in what different people like to focus on in their lives. Some are more into sex, some aren't. One's mileage may vary and that's just fine.

Sure, it is good to make your food good and tastey but why should somebody spend long amounts of time focusing just on food?

Well, y'know - everybody needs a hobby.

In this matter, it isn't really a Holy thing to focus on something like this.

We should focus on our spiritual selves more than our bodily selves; one is of beasts, the other is of God; we need to look inside ourselves and appreciate the world around us and ourselves before serving our bodies crudely.

I might point that there are erotic philosophies which seek union of the spiritual as well as the physical in sex. Tantric sex practices are an example. In addition, many neopagan traditions count all acts of sex and pleasure as holy and sacred rituals. Creating a dichotomy between sex and spirit is not strictly necessary in order to obtain spiritual fulfillment.

 

[cantata]

Ah, spirit good, body bad...sounds like a manichaean heresy to me. Dualism has no support in the OT. In Genesis, God made both the physical and the spiritual, and pronounced it all "very good." In other words, the body is of God just as much as the spirit.

Honestly, until the later influence of Greek and Roman philosophy, dualism was one of the things orthodoxy fought against, both in the form of Manichaeism and some of the Gnostic groups, which insisted that the flesh was something to be defeated.

Good point. Check out the beginning of John:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through him, and without him not one thing came into being.

So the Word, which is Jesus, is The Word/Wisdom, which is the Creative Spirit! In Genesis, look how God makes stuff - by his Word:

Then God said, 'Let there be light'; and there was light.

Aw, I love John's Gospel - it's so radical! John was clearly trying to directly attack certain proto-Gnostic beliefs that matter is evil. Creation is good and beautiful; hurrah!

 

[sidhe]

Aw, I love John's Gospel - it's so radical! John was clearly trying to directly attack certain proto-Gnostic beliefs that matter is evil. Creation is good and beautiful; hurrah!

John is beautifully written. It's defense against Gnosticism was one of the large reasons it went in the canon (if I'm correct) over the Gospel of Thomas (which is entirely orthodox, IMHO). In addition, John clearly outlines the Incarnation, which was an issue at the time with the rise of Arianism. Plus, by defending the Incarnation, John opposes dualism!

Too bad some of the other verses in John get taken to bash non-Christians over the head (John 3:18, for example). It's really great literature.

 

[Sojourner1]

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