Dinowhat?

[mzungu]

Maybe if they did not keep insisting it is a fact and not a theory they wouldn't need to be corrected by you.

Since it has been pointed out to you so many times and you do not seem to understand that the meaning of the word "Theory" in Science is different to the colloquial then you leave me no other choice but to conclude that English is not your first language and this alone may excuse your ignorance on the various definitions of the word "Theory"

 

[Doveaman]

Since it has been pointed out to you so many times and you do not seem to understand that the meaning of the word "Theory" in Science is different to the colloquial then you leave me no other choice but to conclude that English is not your first language and this alone may excuse your ignorance on the various definitions of the word "Theory"

You are still being dishonest about the whole discussion.

 

[Doveaman]

You have no reason to not believe in any of the deities or other supernatural creatures he previously listed. Why don't you believe in them?

I do have a reason not to believe in them.

Because everytime someone confronts you about evidence, you quote the Bible (which you conveniently just claim is infallible and thus is valid, backing up the validity with... wait for it... Bible quotes!) basically saying 'you have to believe in God to believe in God'.

We Share In God's Mind

 

[Doveaman]

Science changes every day.

This is why science has the advantage. It changes any time new evidence arises.

This statement is false.

You change because you are shown to be wrong. If you are not wrong you don't need to change. The Bible does not change because it is never wrong. Therefore, the Bible has the advantage because it is never wrong.

 

[Jazer]

You change because you are shown to be wrong. If you are not wrong you don't need to change. The Bible does not change because it is never wrong. Therefore, the Bible has the advantage because it is never wrong.

So as long as the mafia driven drug companies can come up with proof that their miracle cure is effective, they can sell all the dope they want for 10 times it's true value. Of course they are better off with the illegal drugs, they can get 100 times the value.

Correct, the Bible is never wrong. Every generation for 3500 years has proven the Bible to be accurate, correct and true. But lots of different people have different understandings and interpretations. Science shows us who has the correct understanding of the Bible. Empirical evidence points the way. But we all know from the mafia driven drug companies that empirical evidence can be tampered with. A person has to want to seek to know the truth.

Why is it we still study the books of Moses today or even Bishop Usher 500 years ago. Yet there are people who lived 100 years ago that no one has ever heard of and there is no record that they ever existed as a individual. Other then just the record that God has in the DNA.

 

[mzungu]

You are still being dishonest about the whole discussion.

What is it that you do not understand about the scientific meaning of the word Theory?

Your answer is one that IMHO is a troll answer.

 

[Doveaman]

What is it that you do not understand about the scientific meaning of the word Theory?

Your answer is one that IMHO is a troll answer.

What is it that you do not understand about your dishonesty regarding the actual discussion?

Your answer is one that IMHO is a troll answer.

 

[Doveaman]

Science shows us who has the correct understanding of the Bible.

Surely you jest.

"We walk by faith, not by sight." (2 Cor 5:7 - Bible).

 

[rjc34]

What is it that you do not understand about your dishonesty regarding the actual discussion?

Your answer is one that IMHO is a troll answer.

Just for our sake, would you please define what you believe the definition of a scientific theory is?

 

[Insane_Duck]

Well, "Dinosaur" refers to a group of reptiles that have indeed gone extinct. Humans, at one point in our genetic history, would today more likely be classified as "fish". However if every fish went extinct tommorow, we wouldn't count the class of animal known as "fish" as having lived on through other derivative branches of organisms.

 

[Hespera]

So as long as the mafia driven drug companies can come up with proof that their miracle cure is effective, they can sell all the dope they want for 10 times it's true value. Of course they are better off with the illegal drugs, they can get 100 times the value.

Correct, the Bible is never wrong. Every generation for 3500 years has proven the Bible to be accurate, correct and true. But lots of different people have different understandings and interpretations. Science shows us who has the correct understanding of the Bible. Empirical evidence points the way. But we all know from the mafia driven drug companies that empirical evidence can be tampered with. A person has to want to seek to know the truth.

Why is it we still study the books of Moses today or even Bishop Usher 500 years ago. Yet there are people who lived 100 years ago that no one has ever heard of and there is no record that they ever existed as a individual. Other then just the record that God has in the DNA.

1 Kings 7:23 "He made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." Circumference = Pi() x Diameter, which means the line would have to have been over 31 cubits. In order for this to be rounding, it would have had to overstate the amount to ensure that the line did "compass it round about." Lev 11:20-21: "All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you." Fowl do not go upon all four. Lev 11:6: "And the hare, because he cheweth the cud..." Hare do not chew the cud. Deut 14:7: " "...as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof." For the hare this is wrong on both counts: Hare don’t chew the cud and they do divide the "hoof." Jonah 1:17 says, "...Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights" Matt 12:40 says "...Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly..." whales and fish are not related Matt 13:31-32: " "the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which…is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree." There are 2 significant errors here: first, there are many smaller seeds, like the orchid seed; and second, mustard plants don't grow into trees. Matt 4:8: " Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them." Unless the world is flat, altitude simply will not help you see all the kingdoms of the earth.

 

[AV1611VET]

Just for our sake, would you please define what you believe the definition of a scientific theory is?

The interpretation of a set of facts (or data)?

 

[rjc34]

The interpretation of a set of facts (or data)?

Nope. (Well, you got the part about dealing with facts correct, but you're missing the rest of it).

 

[mzungu]

1 Kings 7:23 "He made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." Circumference = Pi() x Diameter, which means the line would have to have been over 31 cubits. In order for this to be rounding, it would have had to overstate the amount to ensure that the line did "compass it round about." Lev 11:20-21: "All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you." Fowl do not go upon all four. Lev 11:6: "And the hare, because he cheweth the cud..." Hare do not chew the cud. Deut 14:7: " "...as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof." For the hare this is wrong on both counts: Hare don’t chew the cud and they do divide the "hoof." Jonah 1:17 says, "...Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights" Matt 12:40 says "...Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly..." whales and fish are not related Matt 13:31-32: " "the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which…is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree." There are 2 significant errors here: first, there are many smaller seeds, like the orchid seed; and second, mustard plants don't grow into trees. Matt 4:8: " Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them." Unless the world is flat, altitude simply will not help you see all the kingdoms of the earth.

All hell will freeze over before anyone can justify these errors!

Like I said and shall continue to say; "The bible is a spiritual book and should in no way be interpreted in a literal way".

 

[AV1611VET]

All hell will freeze over before anyone can justify these errors!

You don't expect me to go through and explain each one of these, do you?

1 Kings 7:23 "He made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." Circumference = Pi() x Diameter, which means the line would have to have been over 31 cubits. In order for this to be rounding, it would have had to overstate the amount to ensure that the line did "compass it round about."

The molten sea was oval, not circular.

 

[mzungu]

You don't expect me to go through and explain each one of these, do you?

The molten sea was oval, not circular.

Sorry but it specifically says "round all about" and that means circular. But let's suppose you have explained this one; What about the rest?

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry but it specifically says "round all about" and that means circular. But let's suppose you have explained this one;

Oval is "round all about".

What about the rest?

Anxious to have Hell freeze over, are you?

Lev 11:20-21: "All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you." Fowl do not go upon all four. Lev 11:6: "And the hare, because he cheweth the cud..." Hare do not chew the cud. Deut 14:7: " "...as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof." For the hare this is wrong on both counts: Hare don’t chew the cud and they do divide the "hoof."

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Jonah 1:17 says, "...Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights" Matt 12:40 says "...Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly..." whales and fish are not related

God's taxon is not our taxon.

God can see a relationship between whales and fish that we do not.

Remember the dinosaur in Job? Doesn't the Bible clearly state it has a navel?

Matt 13:31-32: " "the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which…is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree." There are 2 significant errors here: first, there are many smaller seeds, like the orchid seed; and second, mustard plants don't grow into trees.

First of all, "least" doesn't have to refer to "size", does it? It could mean "least popular" or "least expensive" or "least whatever".

Second of all:

That is, it is not only the largest of plants which are produced from such small seeds, but partakes, in its substance, the close woody texture, especially in warm climates, where we are informed it grows to an almost incredible size. The Jerusalem Talmud, tract Peah. fol. 20, says, "There was a stalk of mustard in Sichin, from which sprang out three boughs; one of which, being broken off, served to cover the tent of a potter, and produced three cabes of mustard seed. Rabbi Simeon ben Chalapha said, A stalk of mustard seed was in my field, into which I was want to climb, as men are wont to climb into a fig tree." See Lightfoot and Schoettgen. This may appear to be extravagant; and it is probable that, in the case of the three cabes of seed, there is considerable exaggeration; but, if it had not been usual for this plant to grow to a very large size, such relations as these would not have appeared even in the Talmud; and the parable of our Lord sufficiently attests the fact.

And finally:

Matt 4:8: " Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them." Unless the world is flat, altitude simply will not help you see all the kingdoms of the earth.

This could have been done via what we call today a "slideshow".

 

[mzungu]

Oval is "round all about".

Anxious to have Hell freeze over, are you?

Now that you mentioned it; That's not a bad idea

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God's taxon is not our taxon.

Come on AV you can do better than that

God can see a relationship between whales and fish that we do not.

If you accept that Whales and Fish are related (actually they are but far, far down the evolutionary ladder) then you MUST accept that we and Chimps are related, because, our ape cousins are much more closely related to us than fish are to whales.

Remember the dinosaur in Job? Doesn't the Bible clearly state it has a navel?
First of all, "least" doesn't have to refer to "size", does it? It could mean "least popular" or "least expensive" or "least whatever".

The Bible mentions Dinosaurs? Oh not the Behemoth thing again

Second of all:

And finally:
This could have been done via what we call today a "slideshow".

Where are the code breakers when you need them! Is this some secret code?

I still insist you have not addresses the errors pointed out to you; Like birds having four legs

 

[VehementiDominus]

Oval is "round all about".

Does it say "Oval"? No? Well, why are you adding things that aren't there?

God's taxon is not our taxon.

God can see a relationship between whales and fish that we do not.

Or primitive barbarians could see a link between whales and fish that we now know is nonsense. "Derp, dey boaf swim in da sea, don't dey, Matt?". "Yeh Jonah, dey do, so whales must be fish!"

Bronze age people wouldn't've known whales are mammalian. It wasn't exactly easy to study whales during the bronze age.

he fact is, one refers to it as a fish and one refers to it as a whale. Someone's wrong.

Remember the dinosaur in Job? Doesn't the Bible clearly state it has a navel?

You're trying to justify stupid things in the Bible with more stupid things?

 

[AV1611VET]

Does it say "Oval"? No? Well, why are you adding things that aren't there?

You a Bible literalist, are you?