Dinosaurs on the Ark: How It Was Possible

[renniks]

No, it is sad when you copy lines that you do not understand and cannot support.

What did I copy?

 

[AV1611VET]

Unfortunately for you the sort of arguments that you use will have quite the opposite effect on most Christians.

We Christians can discuss it when we all get together in Heaven.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What did I copy?

Your false claim about me contradicting myself.

You are quite often guilty of that. There was no contradiction in my post.

 

[Subduction Zone]

We Christians can discuss it when we all get together in Heaven.

If you get there. I have my doubts about many that claim to be Christians. There acts quite often tell us otherwise. Do you seriously think that you have any better chances than I do?

 

[AV1611VET]

If you get there.

I'll be there; and praying to see you.

I have my doubts about many that claim to be Christians.

So do I.

There acts quite often tell us otherwise.

That's why I'm glad God is the judge, and not man.

Do you seriously think that you have any better chances than I do?

It's not a matter of chance, it's a matter of accepting the invitation.

I've accepted that invitation, and my name is written down in Heaven.

You have just as much opportunity.

And if you don't take it, it's your fault.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'll be there; and praying to see you.So do I.That's why I'm glad God is the judge, and not man.It's not a matter of chance, it's a matter of accepting the invitation.

I've accepted that invitation, and my name is written down in Heaven.

You have just as much opportunity.

And if you don't take it, it's your fault.

And if your interpretation is terribly wrong, then what? I often ask people if they have a proper test for their beliefs. Most, including you, do not have such a test.

 

[coffee4u]

And if your interpretation is terribly wrong, then what? I often ask people if they have a proper test for their beliefs. Most, including you, do not have such a test.

All a person need to do is:
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. (Romans 10:9)
They can be terribly wrong on every other point.

 

[Frank Robert]

Try answering my nothing; then we'll see who's complaining.

In Taoism and Buddhism the universe originated from "Nothingness" or "Emptiness". It is interesting that the modern science also proposed that there is "nothing" before the creation of universe. ie. Before time and space exist, there is "nothing". Wikipedia

 

[trophy33]

It is interesting that the modern science also proposed that there is "nothing" before the creation of universe.

The modern science proposes many things, for example multiverse and our universe' origin to be a crash of two other universes, for example. Which is not "nothing" at all

 

[AV1611VET]

And if your interpretation is terribly wrong, then what?

I'll let the Judge of all the earth decide.

I often ask people if they have a proper test for their beliefs. Most, including you, do not have such a test.

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.

In short, science keeps many of my beliefs in check.

I can't believe in a flat earth, I can't believe in geocentrism, I can't believe in a static universe, and so on.

But then, the Bible keeps science in check.

Science can't speak for anything beyond its empirical observations.

It can't speak for God, for angels, for the tripartite nature of man (body, soul, spirit), miracles, and so on.

 

[AV1611VET]

In Taoism and Buddhism the universe originated from "Nothingness" or "Emptiness". It is interesting that the modern science also proposed that there is "nothing" before the creation of universe. ie. Before time and space exist, there is "nothing". Wikipedia

Our favorite go-to phrase is: creatio ex nihilo (creation out of nothing).

 

[trophy33]

Our favorite go-to phrase is: creatio ex nihilo (creation out of nothing).

If you want to be strictly biblical, the record in Genesis describes creation from waters.

They represent chaos, but I suppose you think they are literal H2O.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you want to be strictly biblical, the record in Genesis describes creation from waters.

Genesis 1 is both creatio ex nihilo (creation out of nothing) and creatio ex materia (creation out of materials).

In the beginning God created a (formless and void) mass of water in the hollow of His hand from nothing, then created the four defining forces of the universe (gravity, electromagnetism, strong & weak nuclear forces), which shaped this mass of water into a sphere.

From there, He called the elements in the water (see my next remark) to come together and form terra firma, then called it to the surface.

They represent chaos, but I suppose you think they are literal H2O.

Not literal H₂O -- seawater.

In the seawater is found every element on the periodic table, minus the synthetic ones.

ETA: Here is a test I once made up.

Creationism Test:

1. Explain the difference between creatio ex nihilo and creatio ex materia; and give two examples of each.
2. Explain the difference between "God" and "LORD God".
3. Eden in the Bible is known as __________ on a secular map.
4. What literary device reconciles Genesis 1 and Genesis 2?
5. Put the following in order that they appeared in the universe: whales, stars, trees, sun, land, sea, outer space.
6. What day was Adam created on?
7. Was the universe created a closed system and, if not, what kind of energy did it run off of? if it was created open, what closed it?
8. Describe terra aqua and what kind of water it consisted of and why.
9. Photosynthesis required light from the sun prior to the Fall. true or false?
10. Explain how a 24-hour day could transpire before the sun was created.
11. Explain the difference between "miracles" and "magic."
12. When discussing Creationism, why should one never let himself stray from Genesis 1 or 2?
13. Why is "heaven" singular in Genesis 1, but plural in Genesis 2?

 

[trophy33]

In the beginning God created a (formless and void) mass of water in the hollow of His hand from nothing, then created the four defining forces of the universe (gravity, electromagnetism, strong & weak nuclear forces), which shaped this mass of water into a sphere.

I wonder, what translation of Genesis is this. I thought you are a literalist and read the Bible word for word.

ETA: Here is a test I once made up.

Creationism Test:

1. Explain the difference between creatio ex nihilo and creatio ex materia; and give two examples of each.
2. Explain the difference between "God" and "LORD God".
3. Eden in the Bible is known as __________ on a secular map.
4. What literary device reconciles Genesis 1 and Genesis 2?
5. Put the following in order that they appeared in the universe: whales, stars, trees, sun, land, sea, outer space.
6. What day was Adam created on?
7. Was the universe created a closed system and, if not, what kind of energy did it run off of? if it was created open, what closed it?
8. Describe terra aqua and what kind of water it consisted of and why.
9. Photosynthesis required light from the sun prior to the Fall. true or false?
10. Explain how a 24-hour day could transpire before the sun was created.
11. Explain the difference between "miracles" and "magic."
12. When discussing Creationism, why should one never let himself stray from Genesis 1 or 2?
13. Why is "heaven" singular in Genesis 1, but plural in Genesis 2?

Thats cute.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

In the beginning God created a (formless and void) mass of water in the hollow of His hand from nothing, then created the four defining forces of the universe (gravity, electromagnetism, strong & weak nuclear forces), which shaped this mass of water into a sphere.

Is that a literal hand? Like one that looks like human hands?

 

[AV1611VET]

Is that a literal hand? Like one that looks like human hands?

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Asked and answered!

 

[renniks]

Your false claim about me contradicting myself.

You are quite often guilty of that. There was no contradiction in my post.

You contradicted your earlier claim that science doesn't deal in facts. And I still don't know what you think I copied.

 

[Frank Robert]

The modern science proposes many things, for example multiverse and our universe' origin to be a crash of two other universes, for example. Which is not "nothing" at all

Yet, Nothingness and Emptiness of Buddhism and Taoism predated Christianity and science.

 

[trophy33]

Yet, Nothingness and Emptiness of Buddhism and Taoism predated Christianity and science.

Not sure what your point is.

My point is that neither buddhism nor taoism are corresponding to modern scientific theories.