DINOSAURS! Noah's Flood & other awesome questions.

[Commander]

I'm a disciple of Jesus of Nazareth who knows that life evolved. I will go where the truth leads.

Here is you some truth brother, if you are a sinner you have never seen or known Christ. 1 John 3:6.

 

[RickG]

Pictures are worth a thousand words. See the picture of a real live coelancanth in post #514. When the truth of the real world and the falsification of your make believe world collide it is called cognitive dissonance.

I never indicated that they were instinct, nor has any scientist since 1938. Did you not look at the chart I posted that shows the lineage of the coelancanth over a period of 380 million years to present?

 

[Colter]

Here is you some truth brother, if you are a sinner you have never seen or known Christ. 1 John 3:6.

I'm saved.

 

[Commander]

I'm saved.

1 Timothy 4:10

 

[Commander]

I never indicated that they were instinct, nor has any scientist since 1938. Did you not look at the chart I posted that shows the lineage of the coelancanth over a period of 380 million years to present?

You don't understand that they have not been here for millions of years do you?

 

[RickG]

You don't understand that they have not been here for millions of years do you?

The physical evidence says they have. You have presented no evidence to the contrary whatsoever.

 

[Colter]

1 Timothy 4:10

yea ok, on this thread we are talking about Dinosaurs and Noah's flood kind of stuff.

 

[Commander]

The physical evidence says they have. You have presented no evidence to the contrary whatsoever.

Says the one who uses cartoons to make his point.

 

[Commander]

yea ok, on this thread we are talking about Dinosaurs and Noah's flood kind of stuff.

Did you not see my post of #516 and #519?

 

[Colter]

Did you not see my post of #516 and #519?

Yes, I saw those, it was funny, and sad, but you had gotten off topic.

 

[Commander]

Yes, I saw those, it was funny, and sad, but you had gotten off topic.

It is all on topic, once you understand that. God-God creates all creatures which includes dinosaurs and then He creates man, man disobeys God, the Biblical flood of Noah, the saving of man by our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

 

[RickG]

Says the one who uses cartoons to make his point.

No, says the one who posted an illustrated diagram and included 3 links to the scientific literature on Coelacanths, and has a Masters in Physical Earth Science from the Univ. of Memphis, 1977 and 30 years experience as a research chemist. Now stop playing games.

 

[RickG]

It is all on topic, once you understand that. God-God creates all creatures which includes dinosaurs and then He creates man, man disobeys God, the Biblical flood of Noah, the saving of man by our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

You are way off topic. Apologetics are not allowed in the Discussion and Debate Forums of the CF. Please review the rules and guidelines for the Christian Forums.

 

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[Hieronymus]

The physical evidence says they have.

According to naturalistic models and with carefully selected data of problematic dating methods.

You have presented no evidence to the contrary whatsoever.

Maybe you have heard of the RATE project for example.

 

[RickG]

According to naturalistic models and with carefully selected data of problematic dating methods.Maybe you have heard of the RATE project for example.

Yes, I am quite familiar with the distorted science of the RATE project. Perhaps you might ask yourself as I have as a Christian, why do some Christians feel it is necessary to misrepresent basic physics and chemistry to support their beliefs of a young earth?

 

[Hieronymus]

Yes, I am quite familiar with the distorted science of the RATE project.

Why is it distorted then?
Do you deny that many dating methods are unreliable and built on assumed premises?

Perhaps you might ask yourself as I have as a Christian, why do some Christians feel it is necessary to misrepresent basic physics and chemistry to support their beliefs of a young earth?

Why would i believe in naturalistic models full of gaps and ambiguous evidence?

 

[Speedwell]

Why is it distorted then?
Do you deny that many dating methods are unreliable and built on assumed premises?

I certainly deny that the criticisms of scientific dating methods made by Creationists are well-founded. The RATE study couldn't even verify them, and had to fall back on implausible conjectures about as yet undiscovered physical phenomena to rescue their young-Earth hypothesis.

 

[RickG]

Why is it distorted then?

Because I have the academic training and experience with dating methods both radiometric and no radiometric to know what RATE did is at the very best extremely poor science lacking basic scholarship.

Do you deny that many dating methods are unreliable and built on assumed premises?Why would i believe in naturalistic models full of gaps and ambiguous evidence?

I'll be out for a while and won't be able to discuss it now but look forward to it this evening. One thing to keep in mind is that dating methods are not based on the assumptions asserted by the creation science community. But everything they present is nothing but opinions and lots of assumptions. More later.

 

[RickG]

Do you deny that many dating methods are unreliable and built on assumed premises?

I absolutely deny such claims as they are completely unfounded. Just "specifically" what is assumed?

Why would i believe in naturalistic models full of gaps and ambiguous evidence?

What naturalistic model, and what "specifically" do you mean by naturalistic?