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Kind: a species of animal. 2 dogs. 2 cats. 2 birds. Obviously these kinds would not have looked like the animals we have today, and most definitely would've been less of a variety being so close to creation. So thinking critically here, it is not hard to realize that there is more species nowadays than there was back then.
But then they just don't believe it apparently.Clearly the global flood was a supernatural event under God's direct control, so you don't need to worry about trying to come up with possible non-supernatural explanations. Just accept that it was so. The same applies to the parting of the Red Sea or when Jesus walked on water/turned water into wine/raised the dead, etc. Do you need to worry about finding a non-supernatural explanation for those events? Of course not.
They don't believe it.You've missed the obvious - the water is still here for all to see! Just travel to the coast and look out from the sea shore and there you'll find it - trillions of gallons of it. When God raised up the land masses after the great flood and reshaped the entire face of the earth, the water that was previously covering the whole planet to a depth of about a mile simply drained back into the lower parts of the earth's surface and formed the oceans and places like the Grand Canyon in the process.
So the story about Jesus says. Jesus knew the story of Noah was a vast exaggeration on the part of the Hebrew authors who used a local flood legend to drown the wicked world. When stories get retold they are often misremembered. People don't believe the flood story because it sounds remotely true, they believe it because it's in the Bible. If it wasn't in the Bible people would laugh at such a story in other cultures.Jesus Christ also referred to Noah.
God is neither forgetful nor did he ever regret his creation. The flood story is a human creation, no other culture on earth remembers being related to the Jews.So, God is forgetful? If he weren't God himself, it might be understandable
seeing he's been around literally forever.
I don't think so, but it does add credibility to the whole story in that Moses recorded Noah's moment of embarrassment. If it were merely fiction then adding such a scene would have simply damaged the otherwise righteous Noah unnecessarily.Ya know, Noah, supposivly the only righteous man on earth, was found passed out drunk and naked in his tent by his kids. Maybe he made the whole thing up?
There are connections that make sense for the origin of the flood story. (1) The 8200 event of the final outbreak of glacial lake Agassiz that cause a sea level rise of over 2 meters. (2) the breech of the St. of Bosporus around the same time in creasing the size of the Black Sea "Lake" by more than a third. (3) The the Mountains of Ararat border the southeastern portion of the Black Sea. I can provide links to the scientific literature for anyone wanting to investigate this for themselves.The Bible says the Ark went to ground "on the mountains of Ararat." Ararat at the time was a hilly region comprising a portion of northwestern Iran and the adjacent of Armenia. The mountain we know as Ararat was not so named until about the 5th century AD.
I don't think the mountain would have been high or particularly cool to begin with, so I guess that would have given time for a vineyard to become established. Also, since God had just saved Noah and his family, it wouldn't make sense for him just to abandon them at that stage and hope that they survived.After the ark comes to rest...time passes before the tops of
the mountains are seen by Noah, then more time passes before
all leave the ark. Noah plants a vineyard soon after, and I have
wondered how that was done on the high cool mountains of
Ararat in Turkey.
As long as it's not the Biblical story, right?There are connections that make sense for the origin of the flood story. (1) The 8200 event of the final outbreak of glacial lake Agassiz that cause a sea level rise of over 2 meters. (2) the breech of the St. of Bosporus around the same time in creasing the size of the Black Sea "Lake" by more than a third. (3) The the Mountains of Ararat border the southeastern portion of the Black Sea. I can provide links to the scientific literature for anyone wanting to investigate this for themselves.
Having no background or understanding of stratigraphy and sedimentology would explain that.Actually, if this earth were billions of years old, I wouldn't expect
to see the complete column anywhere.
Catastrophism is purely made up by the creation science community, ignoring all the physical science that shows that the earth we have become a molten mass, which would still be molten even today. Thermodynamics 101, and never mind all the other problems with the idea.Catastrophism would not
let layers last that long and without the catastrophes, they would
build up too much.
Seafloor spreading due to plate tectonics. Sediment thickness and age increased with distance from the mid-Atlantic ridge. Magnetic anomalies also match on both sides of the ridge.Speaking of catastrophes, what is the current explanation for the
lack of sediment around every continent and the newness of the
sea floors, especially the Atlantic Ocean?
I think you've hit the nail on the head. When you reject the supernatural, you're only left with the option of trying to find natural explanations. I'm still waiting to hear scientific explanations for how Jesus walked on water, turned water into wine, calmed the wind and the waves in a storm and rose from the dead. Should be interesting.As long as it's not the Biblical story, right?
There aren't any, because it's beyond the scientific paradigm.I think you've hit the nail on the head. When you reject the supernatural, you're only left with the option of trying to find natural explanations. I'm still waiting to hear scientific explanations for how Jesus walked on water, turned water into wine, calmed the wind and the waves in a storm and rose from the dead. Should be interesting.
For the last time:Having no background or understanding of stratigraphy and sedimentology would explain that.
And that's just plain nonsense.Catastrophism is purely made up by the creation science community.
It doesn't fit your beliefs, does it?it may well be the biblical story. It certainly fits.
I see, a story passed down through countless generations (several thousand years) before being written down. Using current context of words and phrases ignoring possible meanings and context of the time, which could and is more likely different.I think you've hit the nail on the head. When you reject the supernatural, you're only left with the option of trying to find natural explanations. I'm still waiting to hear scientific explanations for how Jesus walked on water, turned water into wine, calmed the wind and the waves in a storm and rose from the dead. Should be interesting.
I think it probably has to do with the immense (staggeringly-so) amount of potential for variety in the genes of living things, so that they can change dramatically, while still remaining the same type of creature (e.g., birds remain birds, insects remain insects, fish remain fish, humans remain humans, etc). I don't know where this came from, but I've heard it said that the likelihood of a couple having two identical children is in the order of 1 chance in 10 to the power of 2000+, which is incredible, given that the known universe supposedly only has 10 to the power of 80 atoms. The power and knowledge of our creator is just mind-blowing (it would have to be anyway, in order to create our universe out of nothing).How does that work, there are millions of species of living things on the earth some of which have very short life spans, less than a year, with unique requirements???
Never mind the mess the earth's crust is and the rock layers with millions of rapidly fossilized animals in them...I see, a story passed down through countless generations (several thousand years) before being written down. Using current context of words and phrases ignoring possible meanings and context of the time, which could and is more likely different.
The creation science does not present a different view, it makes stuff up. They do not use any of the actual scientific data and information that you claim to be the same evidence. Challenge, show me a single paper from the creation science literature that actually shows and explains the data differently.For the last time:
We all have the same evidence to work with, but there are different views on it.
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