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Dinosaurs never went extinct!

CACTUSJACKmankin

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I beleive humans live alongside dinosaurs, but they're not lizards.
The current body of evidence is quite clear that humans and non-avian dinosaurs are separated by about 60 million years, unless of course you are referring to birds when you say that humans live alongside dinosaurs.
 
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Okay, this thread has gotten way of tract. First of all, a few clarifications:
1) Some people have misunderstood(probably my fault)what I meant about science. I do agree that much good has been done through science.

Agreed.

2) The reason why I am weary of the skeletal structures, is because archaelogists have been wrong before.

Paleontologists, not archaeologists, study the remains of long-extinct animals.

For instance, they thought that the Neatherthal man was a step closer to the missing link, but was it was actually a man with rickets.

You've been lied to.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC051_1.html

Also, the parts which were found to place together the Java man skeleton were found quite some distance from each other, and unless grenades were common millions of years ago, that was a scam.

Specifically, a certain femur originally thought to belong to that skeleton was found 12m away, and is now thought to be from an anatomically modern human. That hardly makes it a 'scam'. Inaccuracies in scientific knowledge are always discovered and corrected by scientists.

We have the choice of believing pretty much every paleontological expert alive today, despite some of them having been wrong at certain points in the past, or believing you, who have shown yourself to be ignorant of the subject matter and wrong since square one.

Tough choice.

3) The reason why the rotated hips are not proof to me that dinos were not reptiles is that:
1) we cannot be 100% sure that the skeletons are correct

Many of the skeletons were found quite complete and in position. We have as much reason to believe those skeletons are 'correct' as we have to believe human skeletons really resemble human skeletons.

In short, you're asking us to embrace a hellishly unlilkely hypothesis, one falsified by all the available data, on the outside chance that all the available data are wrong. Sorry, that doesn't wash.

2) I do still believe that Micro-evolution is a fact, species do mutate and evolve within there own species

New species also emerge, and this has been observed both in the lab and in the field. By now most creationists have resorted to moving their definition of a 'kind' higher up the taxonomic ladder (or, more often, to obscuring their definition of a 'kind' entirely).

3) You know how when people get old, they get slouched over as an effect, how can we be sure that if a reptile grows large enough its bones might not become misformed or change position?

1) Because osteoporosis and osteoarthritis leave obvious signs on the bones themselves.

2) Because such degenerative diseases are unlikely to improve the bone weight bearing capability to the extent required to support the weight of a 91 foot dinosaur.

4) I do belive that some breeds have become extinct, just because we have not found a reptile to fit the form of each dino, does not mean that it never existed.

Actually it does, because nothing fitting the anatomical classification of a lizard can also match the classification of dinosaur. This has been pointed out to you. Please stop ignoring it. It has also been pointed out to you that birds are a closer match to dinosaur skeletal anatomy.

5) So much of the earth's oceans and rainforests are yet to be explored, there is no telling what will be found there!

1) If you were to find a dinosaur in the depths of the unexplored jungle, what you would have there would still be a dinosaur, not an overgrown lizard.

2) Credit not given for evidence not provided.

I'm sorry, but lizards just don't have the anatomy to become dinosaurs, any more than cats have the anatomy to become cattle. You can't just wish this fact away because of your emotional attachment to your particular pet idea.
 
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flatworm

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Are you a Christian?

There is still room for God!

Ah, so now we see what this is really about. This isn't really about lizards and dinosaurs at all, is it?

Listen, you can believe whatever you want about God or Apollo or Vishnu or the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. These are religious concepts beyond the possibility of verification...

...But dinosaurs were not simply overgrown lizards. This is something well within the realm of the verifiable, and has been shown conclusively to be false.
 
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Every single shred of geological, fossil and archaeological evidence says you're wrong.

God makes the dino bones age faster to fool us!! He cant fit the whole world up in heavan so he tests our faith with many differnt things. That is obviously why god created other religions too. In fact, god even created the other gods!!!



[sarcasm]
 
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God makes the dino bones age faster to fool us!! He cant fit the whole world up in heavan so he tests our faith with many differnt things. That is obviously why god created other religions too. In fact, god even created the other gods!!!



[sarcasm]

All kidding aside, there are people that actually believe that.
 
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Brimac, you really, really should go read some books, from the science section of your local library. Given what you've come up with here, you've made it obvious that you know very little about science, paleontology, anatomy, archaeology, astronomy, or physics. There's nothing wrong with being unread in these subjects, unless you want to argue about them. Example: I know very little about physics. I don't argue about physics. I do read reputable, educated people's explanations of concepts in physics, which at least helps me identify an absolute lunatic's presentation of physics concepts when I see one.
 
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