Digusting video uses celebs to plead to Republicans to change their electoral vote!

[Subduction Zone]

The same as Trump and his team then.

Perhaps. If Trump is rejected I would think that the field would be wide open.

 

[Jack of Spades]

Perhaps. If Trump is rejected I would think that the field would be wide open.

As there are Democrats involved with the Hamilton Electors - project, they won't likely choose Mike Pence. They'll want a moderate Republican.

 

[SummerMadness]

More sore winning by complaining Republicans. They are mad Trump didn't win the popular vote so they complain about people not being happy with the Electoral Collefe results.

Why don't they complain about how Maine and Nebraska split their vote? Why did they complain about the possibility of delegates not choosing Trump as the nominees, citing his popular vote lead, but now abandon that argument for the general election?

Bottom line, they know his win isn't considered legitimate and now resort to whining about liberals not respecting his win because they really want to feel like there is no dispute that Trump is the champion. Bottom line, he won the election, be happy with that.

 

[JustOneWay]

And I don't care who won the popular vote

Because democracy will be a joke at that point.

LOL

The country is not a democracy, or else the popular vote would be the only thing that did matter. It is a joke to say America is a democracy.

 

[CrystalDragon]

I hope that no matter what, Hilary is not elected. As bad as Trump might be, Hilary would be worse. Many "Trump supporters" aren't necessarily "pro-Trump", but "anti-Hilary.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

One purpose of the electoral college is to prevent unfit/dangerous/authoritarian people from becoming President.

I don't think Trump is any of those things, but the Founding Fathers had reason for the electors to be there as a final stop.

However, despite all this, if an elector is swayed by the opinion of an actor, a celebrity, someone whose only qualification is pretending to be other people, then they are unfit to be an elector...

Of course anyone can raise a valid point, you don't need qualifications for that, but if it took an actor to change their mind that raises some questions as to their judgment.

 

[JustOneWay]

One purpose of the electoral college is to prevent unfit/dangerous/authoritarian people from becoming President.

That is precisely what democrats are trying to do. Keep an unfit/dangerous/authoritarian person from becoming President.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Question is if the show was on the other foot would you say the same thing? Doubt it.

Back at ya.

Though free speech aside, it doesn't change the fact they shouldn't be able to switch votes. Because we the people voted. Not one guy.

And yet, the Electoral college was created precisely to override "we the people" in extreme situations... or does nobody read the Federalist Papers?

All these advantages will happily combine in the plan devised by the convention; which is, that the people of each State shall choose a number of persons as electors, equal to the number of senators and representatives of such State in the national government, who shall assemble within the State, and vote for some fit person as President. Their votes, thus given, are to be transmitted to the seat of the national government, and the person who may happen to have a majority of the whole number of votes will be the President. But as a majority of the votes might not always happen to centre in one man, and as it might be unsafe to permit less than a majority to be conclusive, it is provided that, in such a contingency, the House of Representatives shall select out of the candidates who shall have the five highest number of votes, the man who in their opinion may be best qualified for the office.

The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States.

Of course, Hamilton's argument has one forgivable flaw -- he couldn't have predicted the rise of mass and social media, or the ability of a candidate such as Trump, who substitutes charisma for qualification, to manipulate it.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

That is precisely what democrats are trying to do. Keep an unfit/dangerous/authoritarian person from becoming President.

I respect the right of the electors to come to that conclusion, though I would disagree with them.

 

[SummerMadness]

One purpose of the electoral college is to prevent unfit/dangerous/authoritarian people from becoming President.

I don't think Trump is any of those things, but the Founding Fathers had reason for the electors to be there as a final stop.

However, despite all this, if an elector is swayed by the opinion of an actor, a celebrity, someone whose only qualification is pretending to be other people, then they are unfit to be an elector...

Of course anyone can raise a valid point, you don't need qualifications for that, but if it took an actor to change their mind that raises some questions as to their judgment.

That's a totally ignorant statement, what is wrong with the opinion of an actor? The notion that being an actor means you lack qualifications is quite foolish considering actors have been elected to positions like governor and the presidency. If you're going to dismiss someone, dismiss them based on actual reasoning, not because of their title.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

That's a totally ignorant statement, what is wrong with the opinion of an actor? The notion that being an actor means you lack qualifications is quite foolish considering actors have been elected to positions like governor and the presidency. If you're going to dismiss someone, dismiss them based on actual reasoning, not because of their title.

I just said that without any qualifications, anyone can make a valid point, including an actor.

At the same time, their opinion is nothing special.

 

[TLK Valentine]

However, despite all this, if an elector is swayed by the opinion of an actor, a celebrity, someone whose only qualification is pretending to be other people, then they are unfit to be an elector...

Ronald Reagan was an actor, a celebrity, someone whose only qualification was pretending to be other people... and he became a governor, a president, and the Patron Saint of the American Right.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

Ronald Reagan was an actor, a celebrity, someone whose only qualification was pretending to be other people... and he became a governor, a president, and the Patron Saint of the American Right.

Yes, like I said, being an actor doesn't make you special. Neither does it make you stupid. So I don't see your point. Reagan's policies as President themselves were admired, not his ability as an actor.

 

[redleghunter]

I can't believe this video is real (below). I mean seriously, what is the point of voting if some random people can take all out votes, throw them out the window and change the vote to Hillary? Why even vote? To me these celebs should be banished from the country, along with the makers of the video. I say its unpatriotic and unamerican. I'd call these people in the video traitors.

Our country is based on the idea that we, the people, vote for who we want in office. And I don't care who won the popular vote because the places where she had those votes were mostly places she already won. Which wouldn't change anything electorally. Accept your loss like you wanted republicans/right to do if we had lost. Though if by chance she wins due to change votes I hope americans don't protest.... but riot instead. Let there be a civil war. Because democracy will be a joke at that point.

The video:

I voted disgusting because all this money collected post election could be used for Children's hospitals.

 

[redleghunter]

Ronald Reagan was an actor, a celebrity, someone whose only qualification was pretending to be other people... and he became a governor, a president, and the Patron Saint of the American Right.

You forgot all that leadership experience he had with the Screen Actors Guild which propelled him into politics.

 

[ewq1938]

The vast majority of elections, the winner of the election also won the popular vote. In fact, this is the 5th election where this wasn't the case, and only the 2nd election in our lifetimes.

Which is fully irrelevant according to the law.

 

[ewq1938]

That is precisely what democrats are trying to do. Keep an unfit/dangerous/authoritarian person from becoming President.

And that's what the country voted to make sure did not happen

 

[brinny]

I can't believe this video is real (below). I mean seriously, what is the point of voting if some random people can take all out votes, throw them out the window and change the vote to Hillary? Why even vote? To me these celebs should be banished from the country, along with the makers of the video. I say its unpatriotic and unamerican. I'd call these people in the video traitors.

Our country is based on the idea that we, the people, vote for who we want in office. And I don't care who won the popular vote because the places where she had those votes were mostly places she already won. Which wouldn't change anything electorally. Accept your loss like you wanted republicans/right to do if we had lost. Though if by chance she wins due to change votes I hope americans don't protest.... but riot instead. Let there be a civil war. Because democracy will be a joke at that point.

The video:

Who do these actors and actresses think they are?

They don't have a clue how insulting this is?

Ugh!

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

I couldn't imagine America electing a reality TV star to the highest office in the land either, so what do I know?

Ronald Reagan was an actor, a celebrity, someone whose only qualification was pretending to be other people... and he became a governor, a president, and the Patron Saint of the American Right.

Exactly. Not the first time a actor/tv star won. And we don't know what his policies are yet. For all we know he could do great. I know some are like "But look at what he said before!". And? For starters hes taken back alot of what he said. And all politicans say things before the election then never do them after usually. So this is nothing new. Just lots of assumptions without evidence since he is not in office yet and thus nothing can be proved.

 

[USincognito]

And that's what the country voted to make sure did not happen

Interesting definition of "the country".