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Differences between 1979 BCP rite 1 and 1928 BCP?

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You're probably right, I attended the Healdsburg Episcopal Church (Diocese of Northern California) very rarely in the 1960's and 1970's, as my main denomination was Methodist and I was wannabe Roman Catholic (baptized therein 1969 Easter Vigil). I usually was at college on Sundays elsewhere in Northern California or working Sundays during fruit harvest during Summer break.
In the 1960's the time(s?) I went, even 10:30 was very sparsely attended by only old (very important) people. Not much to interest me to come again. I did attend the Episcopal Church in Davis California in 1965 a couple of times with a girlfriend, but I don't recall any Communion there (same Diocese, Bill Burrill the rector, future Bishop of Chicago).
In the 1970's the attendance was much improved, full of families, but I don't recall them listing when Communion was other than the 8:00. Maybe by then that earlier service had both Morning Prayer and Communion.

In general, however, I have always understood Anglicanism to be very split between High-Church and Low-Church, thus couldn't dominance by the latter in the 1960's have meant that 10:30 was always Morning Prayer (except maybe Easter, Christmas, you would know better than I) and that the High-Church minority would go only to 8 AM Communion, which is the way I recall (4 or 5 old ladies)?
 
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I much prefer the language of rite 1 in the 1979 BCP. I was just wondering if there is a major difference in language between the 1979 BCP rite 1 and the 1928 BCP? Any other differences in structure etc. that I should know about? I have a 1979 BCP that I use for daily office prayer, but am thinking of picking up a 1928 BCP for daily office prayers.

Some of the practical differences between 1928 Morning Prayer and 1979 Morning Prayer are these:

In the 1928 rite, the confession of sin had three additional phrases.
1928 Morning Prayer said:
...and we have done those things which we ought not to have done and there is no health in us. But thou, O Lord have mercy upon us miserable offenders, spare thou those O God who confess their faults...
In the 1979 rite the phrases in boldface are omitted. "And there is no health in us" had long been criticized. I think the complaint was that it was too close to TULIP Calvinism. But I don't know for certain why the other two phrases were edited out. I rather miss being a miserable offender.:)

In the 1928 rite the Jubilate (Psalm 100) is a canticle that can follow one of the readings.
In the 1979 rite the Jubilate is an invitatory psalm that can open the psalmody, and not a canticle.

The 1979 rite has a wider choice of canticles than the 1928 rite.

The suffrages after the Lord's Prayer are extended in the 1979 rite compared to 1928.

After the suffrages, the minister was required to say the Collect of the Day, the Collect for Peace, and the Collect for Grace. The minister than had the option of ending with the Grace, with "general intercessions, taken out of this book", or, instead, of proceeding with additional collects unless the Litany was to follow. In the parish of my childhood we almost always took the option of the additional collects.

In the 1979 rite, in practice, the momentum from the old days is high. I have seldom heard 1979 Morning Prayer in which the Collect of the Day was skipped, even though the rubrics allow for it.

At the closing, the 1928 rite had only one closing sentence, the Grace, 2 Corinthians 13.14. The 1979 rite allows the minister to choose from three, the Grace, Romans 15.13, and Ephesians 3.20,21.
 
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