Difference between liberal & conservative

[Not me]

what you dont seem to realise is that by you hanging onto that good/evil rhetoric, is that you too are evil - 50% of the population will be democrats who think you are wrong and therefore that makes you evil by the terms of you're own paradigm. You're leaving no room to listen to the other side and no indication that you are interested in their needs or willing to help half of the people of the USA. If thats true then they are right - You are evil.

What you don’t seem to realize is that righteousness (good) and unrighteousness(evil) do exist. And it is the refusal to see this that has gotta mankind into the situation it is in. And ONLY a acknowledgement of this truth will heal society. All else is just digging societies hole deeper and deeper. For rest assured that sooner or later mankind will get so bad that they will be forced to acknowledge this truth. Question is, how many will have to die in the meantime?

For this is the truth.;

Until righteousness is sought after for it’s own sake mankind will not know what makes for peace.

in Christ, Not me

 

[KCfromNC]

Liberal = more concerned with equality and justice

Conservative = More concerned with purity and tradition

Alternatively - Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives' Political Attitudes

 

[Dave-W]

The liberals want to be liberated from that which the conservatives want to conserve. And what is that;

Cute.

But hardly definitive.

 

[Not me]

Cute.

But hardly definitive.

Unless it the truth.

Not me

 

[Dave-W]

That's what I used to think but conservatives who give their full support to Trump sure do confuse me.

By definition they are not conservatives.

A conservative is defined as someone who wants to maintain the status quo, or return to an earlier status quo.

The latter is what Trump promised, but has not went that direction.

A liberal is defined as someone who wants to change the status quo.

Trump is a liberal. He is changing the status quo from a political model to a more business-like model.

 

[Dave-W]

Unless it the truth.

It can be the truth but not definitive.

 

[Not me]

Alternatively - Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives' Political Attitudes

Sooner or later reality will set in, that only by being “righteous” can society prosper. This is a lesson mankind has been trying to learn since the fall. But on farther reflection, scripture says “accept those days be shortened, no flesh would survive” so it seems that mankind as a whole will never learn this simple truth.

in Christ? Not me

 

[Not me]

It can be the truth but not definitive.

“truth is not definitive” most curious?

in Christ, Not me

 

[Dave-W]

scripture says “accept those days be shortened,

I do accept that the days will be shortened.

Or did you mean "except?"

 

[Dave-W]

“truth is not definitive” most curious?

Absolutely.

I could tell you that my granddaughters are cute. That is the truth.

But is it definitive? Would that statement help you identify them? Know what they actually look like? Pick them out of a group of their friends who are also cute?

NO.

 

[Not me]

I do accept that the days will be shortened.

Or did you mean "except?"

Matthew 24:22 (KJV)
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

God would seem to say so.

in Christ, Not me

 

[Dave-W]

Matthew 24:22 (KJV)
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Thank you for actually doing a cut and paste.

It was "except" and NOT "accept."

I do hope you know the difference.

 

[Not me]

Absolutely.

I could tell you that my granddaughters are cute. That is the truth.

But is it definitive? Would that statement help you identify them? Know what they actually look like? Pick them out of a group of their friends who are also cute?

NO.

Your granddaughter is cute. Is that not just your opinion?

Guess it depends on how you define “definitive”.

1) conclusive
2) authoritative

Truth is definitive to the exclusion of all else.

in Christ, Not me

 

[A_Thinker]

The liberals want to be liberated from that which the conservatives want to conserve. And what is that;

The definition of right and wrong.

in Christ, Not me

I think that it's more true ... that conservatives prefer to "conserve" the current society (or some fabled golden age) ... despite the flaws in that society (or in that golden age).

Liberals prefer to move forward to eliminate past injustice and inhumnanity, often at the risk of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

At many occasions, society does need to liberate itself from the sins of its present (i.e. slavery, discrimination, etc.).

OTOH, many ventured forward excursions may lead to other forms of evil, as well (i.e. the 60's drug/sex experimentation).

As has been said, I think that we need both conservatism and liberalism ... moderatism to steer through that imperfect thing we call human society.

 

[Dave-W]

Truth is definitive to the exclusion of all else.

You are the one that brought up truth.

I said "definitive," meaning how I can identify it; not whether it is true or not.

You have given nothing definitive.

 

[Not me]

Thank you for actually doing a cut and paste.

It was "except" and NOT "accept."

I do hope you know the difference.

Please check for yourself.

Matthew 24:22 (KJV)
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

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In Christ, Not me

 

[Dave-W]

I think that it's more true ... that conservatives prefer to "conserve" the current society (or some fabled golden age) ... despite the flaws in that society (or in that golden age).

Liberals prefer to move forward to eliminate past injustice and inhumnanity, often at the risk of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

That is closer to giving definitions.

 

[Dave-W]

Please check for yourself.

I understand what the text says.

You are not facing up to your typo. (unless you intentionally used a different word)

If it was intentional, I am missing the point.

 

[Not me]

You are the one that brought up truth.

I said "definitive," meaning how I can identify it; not whether it is true or not.

You have given nothing definitive.

That might be your definition of your meaning and intent of the word, but the dictionary definition would seem to differ.

In Christ, Not me

 

[Not me]

I understand what the text says.

You are not facing up to your typo. (unless you intentionally used a different word)

If it was intentional, I am missing the point.

You did not check for yourself. Please do so.

In Christ, Not me

Edit; I stand corrected, it was an honest typo, you are correct. It should have been “except”