Die Hard Trump Supporters

[ViaCrucis]

If you are going to sing praises to Trump using a song that is about Jesus.....well, that speaks of blasphemy and idolatry to me.

Trump is a convicted felon, an adjudicated sexual abuser, who has committed fraud throughout his life in regards to his taxes, charitable foundation, fake university, and in his dealings with contracted workman. He has hired undocumented migrants at Mar-a-lago, while complaining about immigration publicly. He has lied and lied and lied.

Don't equate him to Jesus.

It's just about impossible to tell if it's meant to be satire or not. Poe's Law in action.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Hear what specifically? About the holiday part or the sodomite part?

I quoted your comment specifically already. What remains unclear for you?

Adam56 said:
'I heard about that and that it was some sodomite holiday."

 

[Adam56]

I quoted your comment specifically already. What remains unclear for you?

Adam56 said:
'I heard about that and that it was some sodomite holiday."

That’s a typo, I just corrected it.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Oh ,do you live in NY?

Is NY on the southern border that the right keeps hollering about?

 

[FreeinChrist]

Staff edit

No, I didn't go hard on Trump. imho, he is the most corrupt president we have ever had and if he is elected, he will work to dismantle democracy .

And the Abraham Accords is not the big deal some make it. It was a business agreement between countries not at war with each other.

"ITS THE NAR big MONEY blabbers" - I suggest you use proper English with punctuation and make coherent paragraphs. Otherwise posts come off as blather to the readers.

 

[Adam56]

No, I didn't go hard on Trump. imho, he is the most corrupt president we have ever had and if he is elected, he will work to dismantle democracy .

And the Abraham Accords is not the big deal some make it. It was a business agreement between countries not at war with each other.

"ITS THE NAR big MONEY blabbers" - I suggest you use proper English with punctuation and make coherent paragraphs. Otherwise posts come off as blather to the readers.

So helping illegals sneak into the country isn’t corrupt?

 

[FreeinChrist]

So helping illegals sneak into the country isn’t corrupt?

I don't see Biden down on the border leading people into the US.

Biden wanted an immigration bill that added border agents .....but Trump didn't want him to have any kind of win in that area and so the House voted it down. Sad.

 

[Adam56]

Biden wanted an immigration bill that added border agents .....but Trump didn't want him to have any kind of win in that area and so the House voted it down. Sad.

Shoe me the exact bill.

Was it about the border and ONLY the border?

 

[FreeinChrist]

Shoe me the exact bill.

Was it about the border and ONLY the border?

Google is your friend.
But I will 'show' you the bill.
I do typos, too. Went from typing 50 words/min with no errors to much, much slower due to MS. It is a pain.

Unraveling Misinformation About Bipartisan Immigration Bill - FactCheck.org

Even before a bipartisan group of senators unveiled the text of a foreign aid and immigration overhaul bill on Feb. 4, it faced significant opposition from former President Donald Trump and other Republican leaders. We'll explain what was in the legislation and the facts on two popular talking...

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The $118 billion bill, called the Emergency National Security Supplemental Appropriations Act, sought significant changes in border policy. It included money to build more border barriers, to greatly expand detention facilities, and to hire more Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Border Patrol agents, asylum officers and immigration judges to reduce the years-long backlog in cases to determine asylum eligibility. It sought to expedite the asylum process, essentially ending — in most cases — the so-called “catch and release” policy whereby migrants are released into the U.S. pending asylum hearings. And it would have increased the standard of evidence needed to win asylum status.​

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The bill also would have supplied more funding to interdict fentanyl and human trafficking, and it included $60 billion in aid for Ukraine and $14 billion for Israel.​

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“It doesn’t have everything in it I wanted, it doesn’t have everything it it my Democratic colleagues wanted,” one of the architects of the bill, Republican Sen. James Lankford, said from the Senate floor before the vote was taken. “But it definitely makes a difference.”​

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In the lead-up to the vote, Lankford accused his Republican colleagues of opposing the bill on political, rather than policy, grounds.​

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“It is interesting: Republicans, four months ago, would not give funding for Ukraine, for Israel and for our southern border because we demanded changes in policy,” Lankford said on CNN. “And now, it’s interesting, a few months later, when we’re finally getting to the end, they’re like, ‘Oh, just kidding, I actually don’t want a change in law because it’s a presidential election year.’”​

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The bill was also supported by several groups that typically align with Republicans, such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Wall Street Journal editorial board. The National Border Patrol Council, a union that represents about 18,000 border patrol agents, also endorsed the bill.​

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Note this:
“It is interesting: Republicans, four months ago, would not give funding for Ukraine, for Israel and for our southern border because we demanded changes in policy,” Lankford said on CNN. “And now, it’s interesting, a few months later, when we’re finally getting to the end, they’re like, ‘Oh, just kidding, I actually don’t want a change in law because it’s a presidential election year.’”

You can probably guess why Trump is dead set against the border bill

Biden is looking to boost his dismal approval ratings on immigration.

abcnews.go.com

At first blush, the bipartisan border deal unveiled in the Senate on Sunday seems like something former President Donald Trump should support. The bill, which would be the biggest change to immigration law in decades, would raise the standards for migrants seeking asylum and give the Department of Homeland Security emergency authority to deny asylum if the number of border crossings gets too high.​

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Except Trump has already come out against the deal — likely making it a nonstarter in the House of Representatives — and election-year politics seems to be to blame. Looking ahead to the November election, it’s not hard to see why Trump doesn’t want immigration reform to pass right now.​

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In December, the U.S. Border Patrol arrested 249,785 people attempting to cross the U.S.-Mexico border illegally — the highest number in decades. That played right into Trump’s argument that President Joe Biden is incompetent and/or supports “open borders.”​

 

[Adam56]

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it included $60 billion in aid for Ukraine and $14 billion for Israel.​

See, this is the problem, there was extra stuff in there not related to the border. It should have been about the border and the border only.

 

[ralliann]

? There are the same of border states as there was 20 plus years ago.

Than even four years ago.....traditional border states have simply become illegal pass though states....some even "fly overs".

 

[ralliann]

Regarding 'they'. People have moved to Arizona and complained about the illegals. Sheriff Joe Arpaio acted on that and got into legal trouble. Just because 'they' look Hispanic, it does not mean 'they' are illegal.

Folks forget history. It was the Spaniards who colonized what is now Mexico, andTexas, Arizona, New Mexico and California.

Yeah stuff like that is what world history of nations is full of....

Those states once were part of Mexico. The Spaniards grew in numbers and intermarried with Native Americans. The Germans and British and French, etc, came later.

Just like the Spaniards came later at some point....

Arizona was not a US territory until the Gadsden Purchase of 1853 when the US bought what is now Arizona and New Mexico from Mexico. Both New Mexico and Arizona did not get statehood till 1912.

And at some point in time there were no Spaniards either...

There are Hispanic families here who are bilingual, even primarily Spanish speaking, who have ancestors who have lived in these states 100 - 200 years before they were even states. These Spanish speaking families were made US citizens in 1853, certainly by 1912. Yet, some non-Hispanic whites come here and complain about them.

Hispanic, accepts the Spaniard mix of the original people of the land. there were no fispanic people until the Spaniards came.. Spanish will surely let you know they are Spanish if you call them Mexican.

There was actually a mother who was going to enroll her child in the school I worked at but didn't after looking at the classes because "there are two many colors in there."
Puerto Ricans are US citizens and can move anywhere in the US. If they want to get out of the hurricane area that Puerto Rico is in, and move to Maine, Michigan or Idaho, they can. Chances are, they are bilingual and speak Spanish.

Don't assume 'they' are illegal.

I was talking about illegals. Not Us. Citizens. Which by the way are of all colors of Humainty.....
Back to illegals please.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Than even four years ago.....traditional border states have simply become illegal pass though states....some even "fly overs".

Perhaps we should start putting up border walls between states.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[FreeinChrist]

See, this is the problem, there was extra stuff in there not related to the border. It should have been about the border and the border only.

No, actually not. They Republicans didn't want to pass a bill giving money to Ukraine and Israel unless the border policy changed. So a bipartisan group created this bill do to that.
But then Trump indicated that he did not want it to pass. After all, he is campaigning on the border issue so he did not want Biden to address it and get a win.

It would have messed up his campaign.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Than even four years ago.....traditional border states have simply become illegal pass though states....some even "fly overs".

oh, you mean that people from other countries board planes and fly into the US? Do you know their flight has to go to an international airport that has Customs and Immigration? Where they can reject them immediately?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

But then Trump indicated that he did not want it to pass. After all, he is campaigning on the border issue so he did not want Biden to address it and get a win.

It would have messed up his campaign.

Bingo!

 

[Adam56]

No, actually not. They Republicans didn't want to pass a bill giving money to Ukraine and Israel unless the border policy changed. So a bipartisan group created this bill do to that.
But then Trump indicated that he did not want it to pass. After all, he is campaigning on the border issue so he did not want Biden to address it and get a win.

It would have messed up his campaign.

So why didn’t the democrats make a bill about only the border?

 

[FreeinChrist]

So why didn’t the democrats make a bill about only the border?

It was a bipartisan bill.
The Democrats wanted to work with the Republicans. IF you read the posts I made, you would have seen the quote by the GOP Senator:

“It is interesting: Republicans, four months ago, would not give funding for Ukraine, for Israel and for our southern border because we demanded changes in policy,” Lankford said on CNN. “And now, it’s interesting, a few months later, when we’re finally getting to the end, they’re like, ‘Oh, just kidding, I actually don’t want a change in law because it’s a presidential election year.’”

Senator Lankford is a Republican.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Yeah stuff like that is what world history of nations is full of....

Just like the Spaniards came later at some point....

And at some point in time there were no Spaniards either...

Yep, they became Americans despite the fact that they speak Spanish.

Hispanic, accepts the Spaniard mix of the original people of the land. there were no fispanic people until the Spaniards came.. Spanish will surely let you know they are Spanish if you call them Mexican.

Guatemalans, El Salvadorians, Panamanians, Columbians, Venezuelans etc will let you know what they are if you call them Mexicans.

I was talking about illegals. Not Us. Citizens. Which by the way are of all colors of Humainty.....
Back to illegals please.

You totally missed the point.. GOP Sheriff Joe Arpaio and deputies got into trouble for detaining and arresting US citizens as illegals because, gasp, they were HIspanic, therefore 'looked illegal.' Hispanics from around the country who are US citizens and Puerto Ricans can move anywhere in the US.

Don't assume that if they "look illegal" because they are Hispanic, that they are illegal.

 

[ralliann]

Perhaps we should start putting up border walls between states.

-CryptoLutheran

Perhaps we can just close the border.