• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Didn't think I'd be at this point again...

Status
Not open for further replies.

m9lc

Veteran
Mar 18, 2007
1,538
105
34
✟24,745.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
but it seems like I'm back to where I was years ago, I'm actually considering the possibility of Christianity again.

It just seems odd, that the subject of Christian apologetics keeps coming up in conversations I have, and at church, and it just seems to be more than a coincidence. Just the fact that after all this parading I've done against Christianity, I'm again thinking about it, seems like some sort of miracle.

But obviously, with all the atheist argument I've done here in just a few weeks, I'm still having doubts. I can't get over the fact that the religion I'm considering happens to be the dominant religion of my country, the higher Christian divorce rates, all the division and war religion has caused in the world, the possibility that I'm simply imagining all of this, and I'd hate the possibility that if I do end up Christian, when I die I might be disappointed.

I'll probably be talking to real-life friends soon, because my friends will be able to do much more than this forum, or my family. But I just wish someone could tell me how I can be sure of this.
 

ozmum

Active Member
Jan 22, 2007
172
17
Visit site
✟15,388.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Have you read anything helpful lately ?
Do you have a Bible ?
Enrich Your Prayer Life is a great little book.
It has very modern (very recent ) answers to prayer stories and some great readings .
Available for free download at www.homechurchresources.com
It may help you make your mind up.
 
Upvote 0

MelissaShae

Well-Known Member
Apr 3, 2007
535
48
44
Tahoka, Texas
✟16,089.00
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
I don't know if I will be of any help but I am praying for you!! And I don't think what you described are coincidences either, sometimes God speaks to us when we least expect it.

There was a story that my pastor shared with us yesterday in church and when I read your post it made me think of this and how it applies to your situation.

This Christian pastor was at church after sunday sermon and was speaking to a homeless man who had come to the service. . The man told the pastor that God doesn't answer his prayers and the pastor asked him to give him an example of an unanswered prayer. The homeless man said that he was living under a bridge and it had been raining for sometime and he prayed to God to give him a roof over his head and then within 5 minutes a police officer drove by and arrested the man. And the pastor told him that God did indeed answer his prayer, by going to jail he got a roof over his head and what did he expect to happen, God to drop a house out of the sky and he could just walk right into it.

That is the way God works sometimes. We want our prayers answered but we forget that God does answer them, but in his own way and at his own time. He is showing himself to us everyday and it is up to us to listen.

I hope you get the answers you are seeking and I hope that you find your way!!

God Bless
 
Upvote 0

Ailanthus

Tree of Heaven
Aug 8, 2004
1,625
78
47
Tennessee
Visit site
✟2,163.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
but it seems like I'm back to where I was years ago, I'm actually considering the possibility of Christianity again.

It just seems odd, that the subject of Christian apologetics keeps coming up in conversations I have, and at church, and it just seems to be more than a coincidence. Just the fact that after all this parading I've done against Christianity, I'm again thinking about it, seems like some sort of miracle.

But obviously, with all the atheist argument I've done here in just a few weeks, I'm still having doubts. I can't get over the fact that the religion I'm considering happens to be the dominant religion of my country, the higher Christian divorce rates, all the division and war religion has caused in the world, the possibility that I'm simply imagining all of this, and I'd hate the possibility that if I do end up Christian, when I die I might be disappointed.

I'll probably be talking to real-life friends soon, because my friends will be able to do much more than this forum, or my family. But I just wish someone could tell me how I can be sure of this.

Man, just do it. If you honestly ask Christ into your heart, it will rock your world.

I wish I could describe to you in words how it feels when you first accept Him into your life. It isn't like "okay, now I'm a Christian and I feel the same." You will be engulfed with a feeling of peace and joy. You will see with brand new eyes.

I'll never forget when I accepted Him. I was never an athiest; I knew that God existed, and I knew that he sent his son to save me. He had been knocking on my door MANY times, but I kept refusing to answer. I was afraid of what allowing God into my life would mean. My life was comfortable and I didn't want it to change. My wife and I were sitting outside one night (she was already saved) and we were talking about God. she asked me if I would accept him. I finally said yes. I did not expect the charge I felt in my whole being when I opened my eyes after praying. I don't think there is really a way of putting it into words about how I felt. I couldn't stop smiling. When I said you will see with brand new eyes, I meant it. Everything looked more beautiful. I had had doubts before about God, but let me tell you, after I had prayed the sinner's prayer, I KNEW.

If you truly accept Christ into your life, you will experience a feeling like you have never felt before. There will not be a doubt in your mind about God's existence. I know God is knocking on your door right now; let him in! You will not regret it. Our Creator is truly awesome; he loves you with a love you cannot even begin to imagine, and he wants you for his kingdom.

I understand what you mean about the divorce rates, war, and all that other stuff. Be not mistaken, though... these things are not caused by God or religion; these are caused by our enemy, Satan. Satan is a strategist. He has a plan of action for how to destroy your life and keep you from God. He has this plan for everyone. Unfortunately, he's quite successful at doing this.

I'm praying for you. Like I said, just do it. Get on your knees and answer God's call. You will be amazed!
 
Upvote 0

Eph429

Regular Member
Mar 31, 2007
2,512
41
Cape Town
✟25,353.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Man, just do it. If you honestly ask Christ into your heart, it will rock your world.

I wish I could describe to you in words how it feels when you first accept Him into your life. It isn't like "okay, now I'm a Christian and I feel the same." You will be engulfed with a feeling of peace and joy. You will see with brand new eyes.

I'll never forget when I accepted Him. I was never an athiest; I knew that God existed, and I knew that he sent his son to save me. He had been knocking on my door MANY times, but I kept refusing to answer. I was afraid of what allowing God into my life would mean. My life was comfortable and I didn't want it to change. My wife and I were sitting outside one night (she was already saved) and we were talking about God. she asked me if I would accept him. I finally said yes. I did not expect the charge I felt in my whole being when I opened my eyes after praying. I don't think there is really a way of putting it into words about how I felt. I couldn't stop smiling. When I said you will see with brand new eyes, I meant it. Everything looked more beautiful. I had had doubts before about God, but let me tell you, after I had prayed the sinner's prayer, I KNEW.

If you truly accept Christ into your life, you will experience a feeling like you have never felt before. There will not be a doubt in your mind about God's existence. I know God is knocking on your door right now; let him in! You will not regret it. Our Creator is truly awesome; he loves you with a love you cannot even begin to imagine, and he wants you for his kingdom.

I understand what you mean about the divorce rates, war, and all that other stuff. Be not mistaken, though... these things are not caused by God or religion; these are caused by our enemy, Satan. Satan is a strategist. He has a plan of action for how to destroy your life and keep you from God. He has this plan for everyone. Unfortunately, he's quite successful at doing this.

I'm praying for you. Like I said, just do it. Get on your knees and answer God's call. You will be amazed!
You made me cry, because I know what you're talking about. And it's the full realisation of that peace and joy. It's indescribable, only Christians know that peace and joy.
 
Upvote 0

HisArrow

Well-Known Member
Mar 18, 2007
446
31
✟23,237.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
To be born again Christian is wonderful. I know that I have Christ in my heart and 1John 5:11-13 assures me that I will go to heaven when I die. Sure., I have done some awfull things and sinned but I asked and recieved forgiveness. And the Lord knows that I still might mess things up and yet God still loves me.
As far as high rate of divorce, wars and fighting among christians, this is sad. But we have a powerful enemy, satan. Who will try anything to get true christians back on his side. That is why it is necessary to stay in the word of God which is the Bible and in fellowship with other Christians. It is said that there is no perfect church and church is like a hospital for believers....a place to get encouraged and spiritually healed. I think of the Bible as....Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth.
I will be praying for you.
 
Upvote 0

TexasGirl06

Senior Veteran
Mar 26, 2006
4,386
241
Texas
✟20,803.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
but it seems like I'm back to where I was years ago, I'm actually considering the possibility of Christianity again.

It just seems odd, that the subject of Christian apologetics keeps coming up in conversations I have, and at church, and it just seems to be more than a coincidence. Just the fact that after all this parading I've done against Christianity, I'm again thinking about it, seems like some sort of miracle.

But obviously, with all the atheist argument I've done here in just a few weeks, I'm still having doubts. I can't get over the fact that the religion I'm considering happens to be the dominant religion of my country, the higher Christian divorce rates, all the division and war religion has caused in the world, the possibility that I'm simply imagining all of this, and I'd hate the possibility that if I do end up Christian, when I die I might be disappointed.

I'll probably be talking to real-life friends soon, because my friends will be able to do much more than this forum, or my family. But I just wish someone could tell me how I can be sure of this.

m9lc....
You are such a young man.... to be facing such strong truths. Good for you !
I was 26 before the Truth set me free.
Man... what I would do to have all of those precious years to do over again...with Christ in my life.
But... God will (and has) used all of my Before Christ experiences for His Glory.

I know that Christianity is real.
A real relationship with a real God.
But... I can't convince you.

God will do the convincing.
Seek Him.
Nothing fancy needed.
Your knees...and the floor, will suffice.

Baby steps in Faith are quite appropriate.

There is a God.
He is alive.
He does love you.

...as someone mentioned above: Get ready for Him to Rock your world. He is THAT amazing.

Be encouraged this day.
You are on the right track.
I will pray for you... after I send this post.

Be Blessed. :thumbsup:
 
Upvote 0

TexasGirl06

Senior Veteran
Mar 26, 2006
4,386
241
Texas
✟20,803.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I can't get over the fact that the religion I'm considering happens to be the dominant religion of my country, the higher Christian divorce rates,


..just wanted to add something about this statement.

When we ask God to forgive our sin, through Jesus Christ....(get saved)
we are not "all cleaned up" at that point.
Our lives are often messy. Addictions, dysfunction, abuse, consequences of sin, etc....
It is at the point of salvation that we begin straightening out our lives.
For some folks,the process moves quickly.
Some folks go very, very slow.
The process is called sanctification.
We begin to look more and more like Christ.
It is a constant process, never fully achieved here on earth.
So... this explains why we still see things like Divorce in the Christian community.
Being "saved" begins our relationship with the Living God.
Often, saved people don't work very hard on their relationship with God. ie: They don't study Him and purpose to know and obey Him.
Meanwhile, they disobey Him...and live in consequences of their disobedience. (earth consequences)

This is why sometimes a Believer and a Non Believer can look a lot alike.

God hates divorce. The teachings in the Bible are very clear about that.

Anyway, hope this helps.
Have a good day !

 
Upvote 0

Digit

Senior Veteran
Mar 4, 2007
3,364
215
Australia
✟20,070.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
but it seems like I'm back to where I was years ago, I'm actually considering the possibility of Christianity again.

Hi m9lc, I actually remember your other threads, and I am quite pleasantly surprised to see you here again. Isn't it weird how all these things can turn full circle sometimes?

It just seems odd, that the subject of Christian apologetics keeps coming up in conversations I have, and at church, and it just seems to be more than a coincidence.
If it's something that is on your mind, then of course a natural steering towards that topic will of course occur. :) That's not to say God isn't working in your life, and in fact, that possibility must be rather eerie to consider.

The best advice I could give here, is to take small steps. So many things can break down when we feel we need to do a full instant change, to 100% completion. Some things in life are not like that, sometimes it takes small increments. I found one of the most useful things I did, was change my profile on a social networking site, to say Christian under religion. It was odd, it shouldn't have had any real effect, but it did. Just doing that sort of opened a door that I was furiously holding closed. I'm not saying you should do this of course, for you it could be something much different, but don't feel the need for an instant change if you still have doubts.

There is a good parable in the Bible about sowing seeds, and how they can land in many different places. On rocks where they never take route, in poor soil where they are not nourished and cannot grow properly and are choked by weeds and in good soil, where they flourish and grow. You need a good foundation before you can proceed. Make sure you identify your base doubt, and really find out as much as you can. I attempted to become a Christian years ago, but never really believed in one or two core things, and as a result I couldn't sustain my faith, so it crumbled. This time around, I actively sought out all the things I questioned. :)

Just the fact that after all this parading I've done against Christianity, I'm again thinking about it, seems like some sort of miracle.
I must agree, that does seem amazing. :) I hope you aren't worried about losing face should you pursue Christianity. I know many people who were devout Atheists and when it came around to them facing the situation you are in, their pride wouldn't let them admit there may be another better life for them. Just bear that in mind, make sure you don't fall victim to pride. :)

But obviously, with all the atheist argument I've done here in just a few weeks, I'm still having doubts.
That's fairly natural I am sure.

I can't get over the fact that the religion I'm considering happens to be the dominant religion of my country
A good imagery of someones Christian faith can be shown like so: Imagine a coal fire. All the coals are hot and glowing, yet if you move one away from the stack, it rapidly loses heat and cools down. The same can be said of Christians, we need to commune with other Christians to keep our faith burning, so in that respect you being in a country where it's the dominant religion will definitely be a factor in it. I can't lie about that, but I would encourage you to see that as an advantage that many do not have, and it will help you more than hinder. Others have far harder struggles ahead of them.

the higher Christian divorce rates
It's rather uncanny you should mention this, as I had an e-mail about it just the other day. Here it is:

This idea speaks to the need for a shared walk with the Lord in marriage.

Question from one of you:
If God is so important in our marriages, (which I strongly believe he is), why is the divorce rate the same between non-Christian and Christian marriages?

There are two answers - one statistical, one placing the blame:

Statistical - Unsaved folks are far less likely to marry, and far more likely to live together. If you look at couples who live together, with or without marriage, for more than a year, the breakup rate for the unsaved is far higher than for those who follow Jesus. The rate in the church is still, however, very bad, and should be a matter of great concern.

Blame - Marriage is not important to most churches. They say it is, but if you look at what they teach on, and where they put money, the realty is it's not a priority. If churches really set out to improve the marriages of it's people, we'd see some real changes down the line.

Why don't churches put time and money into marriage? I'd say there are a couple of big reasons

  • [*]If you deal with marriage, you will offend people. Marriages suffer primarily because of selfishness - and when you confront folks on their selfishness you offend them. Then there is the sex issue - you can't really minister to marriage if you don't openly and honestly deal with sex - and that will offend plenty of people. Doing what it takes to help marriages can cost a church members and money. I think this would be short term, and be followed by an increase of both, but those loses are scary, and for churches on the edge they can be deadly.
    [*]You can't teach what you don't live. The sad fact is that pastors have worse marriages then their flocks have. The stress of the job, an inability to connect on a deep level, and the fear of admitting the problem all make marriage very difficult for pastors. Even if the pastor has a good marriage, it's unlikely he is trained to teach the sexual side of what folks need to hear
Of course this is just my cynical view. By the way, YOU can help your pastor's marriage. Be respectful of their time, especially "after hours". Encourage that they be given regular time off, a couple of weeks of vacation plus a few days each quarter at the least. Make sure your pastor is paid enough to not have to work a second job, and to not have regular money worries.

Make of that what you will, but I thought it quite insightful.

all the division and war religion has caused in the world,
Unfortunately this is true, and I don't think God is to blame for this, as man took it upon ourselves to do many of these acts, and they were wrong and in complete contradiction to the Bible's teachings. I think the best way to negate this issue, is see Christianity as a personal relationship with God, and not as the human extension of it that we see portrayed so poorly on occasion. This is a tough nut to crack for sure.

the possibility that I'm simply imagining all of this, and I'd hate the possibility that if I do end up Christian, when I die I might be disappointed.
This made me laugh, and I in no way am laughing at you, but it's the same thing that crossed my mind. Essentially I concluded, "So what?" So what if I die and there actually isn't a God? Surely that means I just die, like everyone else? No big deal. But if there IS a God, then it will be amazing and I want that with every iota of my being. That is, I should say, the wrong way to think about it, but it did help me realise that the very worst that can happen, is that I will live a good life, and a rich and fruitful life under the Lord. Which really, isn't so bad afterall. :p

I'll probably be talking to real-life friends soon, because my friends will be able to do much more than this forum, or my family. But I just wish someone could tell me how I can be sure of this.
Well I guess if we could tell you how you can be sure, then you would have been a Christian ages ago. :p The real deal here is that you are feeling something different, and something no one can argue against, is that all Christians have felt amazing changes in themselves and in their lives. So really, back to my point about, take small steps. When you put them all together, they make a huge step, which is the aim, yet it's far, far easier to tackle many little changes, than it is to exact one large one.

All the best, happy seeking! :) God bless.
Digit
 
Upvote 0

Mobiosity

American by birth; Southern by the grace of God.
Feb 20, 2007
2,392
210
✟26,055.00
Faith
Methodist
Marital Status
Private
I can't get over the fact that the religion I'm considering happens to be the dominant religion of my country, the higher Christian divorce rates, all the division and war religion has caused in the world, the possibility that I'm simply imagining all of this, and I'd hate the possibility that if I do end up Christian, when I die I might be disappointed.
Please don't confuse religion with God, or faith with religion. People will do what they will do and look for an excuse for it. Lots of people latch onto religion as an excuse. I'm glad you're open to hearing from God.
 
Upvote 0

infaile

Sweet warmies of freedom and peace!
Apr 24, 2006
524
66
✟23,496.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I haven't read the other replies in this thread; forgive me for repeating someone else, if that's the case. :)

I can't get over the fact that the religion I'm considering happens to be the dominant religion of my country, the higher Christian divorce rates, all the division and war religion has caused in the world, the possibility that I'm simply imagining all of this, and I'd hate the possibility that if I do end up Christian, when I die I might be disappointed.

Question: What does atheism say will happen after death? Nothingness? A complete cessation of being, of thought, of existence?

Consider this. If you remain an atheist, but Christianity is true - after death, you will find yourself in a rather sorrowful predicament, because Christianity does not have the view that life after death = nothing, and there are definite consequences for what we do here on earth.

If you become a Christian - what's the downside? I hate to sound like a salesman, but think about these points:

A) Christianity as a FAITH (not as a religion that has been twisted, many times, over many centuries, to be about man rather than the God from whom we take our being) has pretty decent tenets. Treat others well, love God, spread the word, bring hope, alleviate suffering, etc.

B) Becoming a Christian again will, I daresay, deal with this emptiness of spirit you appear to have - the knowing that there is something missing and the constant seeking for it so that you feel fulfilled again. Christ has this way of filling up the empty spaces and even permeating what wasn't empty, such that you are set free from lies and given freedom to live in a way that means something.

C) At the basest, crassest level, becoming a believing Christian will be a good thing after you die if God is real and the Bible is true. Mind you, I don't say that Christianity should be a last-ditch effort to avoid Hell, but hey - you have fairly limited options and from what I've said, does it seem that Christianity is probably the best one?

***

Essentially, though, what it comes down to is these two things...

That a man who can be argued into something can just as easily be argued out of it again.

Basing your faith on logical arguments for or against Christianity is pointless, because new 'facts' are always being uncovered, and the integrity of those 'facts' cannot be verified ANYWAY until you research them yourself. If Christianity was about facts, this whole faith issue would be a lot easier. But it's so much more than that. It is supported by the facts - but it also envelops an entirely new realm of spiritual experience that science can't even begin to touch.

Christianity is a kind of... whole-body solution? (No matter how hard I try, I still end up sounding like a used-car salesman, sorry. :D) Basically, it's something that appeals to and fulfills EVERY part of us, every part that makes us human and says "you're alive".

That "a man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument" (Tommy Tenney, author of "The God Chasers").

Ultimately, you will have to open your heart and soul and spirit and mind to God, and experience His love and plan for your life, YOURSELF. And after that, no matter what people say, for or against, you will know the truth, because you will have LIVED it.

You may have seen this happen already.

Example: a very worldly man who has experienced the touch of God's love upon his heart and done a complete 180, and turned his entire life over to Christ.

When he's arguing facts with atheists, the arguments go on forever. There are endless facts to debate about science vs. God, or atheism vs. faith. It doesn't, ultimately, convince anyone of anything except that there are lots of facts to debate!

If he were to say, after hours of debate, "I have felt God's Spirit speaking to me." - what can his opponents say in return? "No, you haven't." ...? They cannot undermine his authority because the experience is his - they cannot ever take that away from him.

Look for your own God-experience... we will pray for you. :)
 
Upvote 0

Tishri1

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Feb 28, 2004
59,894
4,321
Southern California
✟347,174.00
Gender
Female
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Married
and praying for you.

God hasn't created you to sit in a vaccum. He wants you to change your world... and some times before we realize that, we set out to do just that in our own understanding....Then when we see that it was He that planted that gift inside us, we suddenly begin to walk in that calling the way He designed it to be....

Before today your were living this life in your own way, imagine what He has in store for you once you take that step toward Him and place what He gave you at birth back into His hands and say not my will God but yours in my life......
 
Upvote 0

Jon0388g

Veteran
Aug 11, 2006
1,259
29
London
✟24,167.00
Faith
SDA
Marital Status
Single
but it seems like I'm back to where I was years ago, I'm actually considering the possibility of Christianity again.

It just seems odd, that the subject of Christian apologetics keeps coming up in conversations I have, and at church, and it just seems to be more than a coincidence. Just the fact that after all this parading I've done against Christianity, I'm again thinking about it, seems like some sort of miracle.

But obviously, with all the atheist argument I've done here in just a few weeks, I'm still having doubts. I can't get over the fact that the religion I'm considering happens to be the dominant religion of my country, the higher Christian divorce rates, all the division and war religion has caused in the world, the possibility that I'm simply imagining all of this, and I'd hate the possibility that if I do end up Christian, when I die I might be disappointed.

I'll probably be talking to real-life friends soon, because my friends will be able to do much more than this forum, or my family. But I just wish someone could tell me how I can be sure of this.

People can argue for all eternity on theology, but once you study the one Truth in the Bible, and that is Jesus Christ, you know you've struck gold.

There is nothing worse in this world than feeling un-loved.

However, there is nothing greater in this world than knowing we have a Friend in heaven who loves us unconditionally. "...there is a Friend who sticks closer than a brother...greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." Proverbs 18:24, John 15:13

I can't describe to you the feeling I get each time the realisation of what God has done for me personally in purchasing my salvation. Humbling stuff.


And anyways, besides all of that, do you realise how great heaven is going to be? Picture sailing through the galaxies, seeing the other worlds, meeting your guardian angel, but best of all hanging out with the King of the Universe!

"In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also." John 14:2-3

Take care!

Jon:)
 
Upvote 0

Ohana

Well-Known Member
Apr 19, 2007
570
3
✟15,715.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Republican
Well , I was agnostic for a long time and it did not make me happy. I have only been happy since I am starting to build a relationship with Jesus. No matter what you decide, I would love to be your friend, and I am here for you if you need someone to talk to.
 
Upvote 0

junezephyr

Well-Known Member
Dec 13, 2006
2,500
250
✟3,837.00
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Private
m9lc, that's awesome that you're considering Christianity again. Others that have posted before me have already basically summed up what I'd say, but I just wanted to add another word of encouragement.

So many of those disappointing statistics aren't completely reliable, because many that claim to be "Christians" really aren't living for Christ. It's a label that many people take on due to family upbringing, when real Christianity is a relationship with God and following Christ's teachings - not to be confused with a "religion". Many have used the "Christian" label to carry out their own selfish acts against others. However, real Christianity is incredibly rewarding, is very personal and exciting, and promotes peace.

My suggestion would be to read the New Testament on your own. Start with the book of John, and go wherever you like from there. Even if you have doubts, etc. Just take some time to set aside the doubts, and read it as it actually happened. Let the words of hope and peace settle in you.

There are some great apologetics sites out there that I'd love to share with you if you're interested, at which I've found answers to many of my doubts/questions.

If you haven't ever read C.S. Lewis, I'd highly suggest his book Mere Christianity to start out with. This really helped me. His book The Problem of Pain goes deeper into certain explanations, which is also a good read.

Anyway, just wanted to cheer you on. I've felt many of the same doubts and questions as you, so I'm always open to PM's if you'd like. :)
 
Upvote 0

MikeMcK

Well-Known Member
Apr 10, 2002
9,600
654
✟13,732.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
US-Republican
but it seems like I'm back to where I was years ago, I'm actually considering the possibility of Christianity again.

It just seems odd, that the subject of Christian apologetics keeps coming up in conversations I have, and at church, and it just seems to be more than a coincidence. Just the fact that after all this parading I've done against Christianity, I'm again thinking about it, seems like some sort of miracle.

But obviously, with all the atheist argument I've done here in just a few weeks, I'm still having doubts. I can't get over the fact that the religion I'm considering happens to be the dominant religion of my country, the higher Christian divorce rates, all the division and war religion has caused in the world, the possibility that I'm simply imagining all of this, and I'd hate the possibility that if I do end up Christian, when I die I might be disappointed.

I'll probably be talking to real-life friends soon, because my friends will be able to do much more than this forum, or my family. But I just wish someone could tell me how I can be sure of this.

Why do you want to become a Christian? What do you think is the purpose of being a Christian?
 
Upvote 0

glo1

Hier stehe ich. Ich kann nicht anders.
Sep 23, 2006
2,192
173
58
✟18,181.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
but it seems like I'm back to where I was years ago, I'm actually considering the possibility of Christianity again.

It just seems odd, that the subject of Christian apologetics keeps coming up in conversations I have, and at church, and it just seems to be more than a coincidence. Just the fact that after all this parading I've done against Christianity, I'm again thinking about it, seems like some sort of miracle.

But obviously, with all the atheist argument I've done here in just a few weeks, I'm still having doubts. I can't get over the fact that the religion I'm considering happens to be the dominant religion of my country, the higher Christian divorce rates, all the division and war religion has caused in the world, the possibility that I'm simply imagining all of this, and I'd hate the possibility that if I do end up Christian, when I die I might be disappointed.

I'll probably be talking to real-life friends soon, because my friends will be able to do much more than this forum, or my family. But I just wish someone could tell me how I can be sure of this.
You have to understand that being a Christian is nothing to do with what other Christians say or do, whether they divorce or not, or whether their political decisions are sound or not.

Being a Christian is about making a commitment to follow Christ and his teachings!

Believe me, if every time I see a Christian do or say the wrong thing (myself included!), I felt like leaving my faith, I would probably never have become a Christian myself.

But as it happens I saw Jesus, and how he touched my heart and my life, and I believed that he truly is what the Bible says about him.
I am not a Christians because other Christians around me are wonderful people ( some are ... some aren't ...).
I am a Christian because God is an awesome God, and he worthy of everything I have!

I hope you will talk to your real-life-friends. Much better than a bunch of strangers on the internet.
May God lead you on your path!

glo
 
Upvote 0

Mobiosity

American by birth; Southern by the grace of God.
Feb 20, 2007
2,392
210
✟26,055.00
Faith
Methodist
Marital Status
Private
People can argue for all eternity on theology, but once you study the one Truth in the Bible, and that is Jesus Christ, you know you've struck gold.

There is nothing worse in this world than feeling un-loved.

However, there is nothing greater in this world than knowing we have a Friend in heaven who loves us unconditionally. "...there is a Friend who sticks closer than a brother...greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." Proverbs 18:24, John 15:13

I can't describe to you the feeling I get each time the realisation of what God has done for me personally in purchasing my salvation. Humbling stuff.


And anyways, besides all of that, do you realise how great heaven is going to be? Picture sailing through the galaxies, seeing the other worlds, meeting your guardian angel, but best of all hanging out with the King of the Universe!

"In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also." John 14:2-3

Take care!

Jon:)
Beautiful bro! That would make a wonderful hymn.:amen:
 
Upvote 0

Kaelestis721

Active Member
May 2, 2007
94
3
Hawaii
✟22,741.00
Faith
Other Religion
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
but it seems like I'm back to where I was years ago, I'm actually considering the possibility of Christianity again.

It just seems odd, that the subject of Christian apologetics keeps coming up in conversations I have, and at church, and it just seems to be more than a coincidence. Just the fact that after all this parading I've done against Christianity, I'm again thinking about it, seems like some sort of miracle.

But obviously, with all the atheist argument I've done here in just a few weeks, I'm still having doubts. I can't get over the fact that the religion I'm considering happens to be the dominant religion of my country, the higher Christian divorce rates, all the division and war religion has caused in the world, the possibility that I'm simply imagining all of this, and I'd hate the possibility that if I do end up Christian, when I die I might be disappointed.

I'll probably be talking to real-life friends soon, because my friends will be able to do much more than this forum, or my family. But I just wish someone could tell me how I can be sure of this.
If you believe then you believe...if you don't then you don't. The choice should come from within not from without. You should make your choice of beliefs based on your take of the world and your belief of how the world operates. When you do make that choice, be confident and happy with it.

I would not let current divorce rates or the number of ppl who subscribe to my beliefs sway me on my decision.
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.