Did you know??

[IloveJesusMyFather3:16]

I just wanted to tell you a couple things just in case you didn't know:

(1) Humans and this earth could have only gotten here by two different ways: God or by accident. There is no third choice, right? It is now scientifically proven impossible for that many cells to have formed accidently. There is even a formula or equation or whatever you call it to prove this. There are some very good books out there that talk about this. If the research is done, it is OBVIOUS there is a God.

(2) God can talk to you. He can actually communicate with you. You have to be sincere when you ask though.... Click below and read my tract if you want to know what I'm talking about.

 

[IloveJesusMyFather3:16]

Also, why do people go to hell??

He gives us the choice of who we want to be and who we want to be with. You don't have to do anything but believe in God and love him and pray to him to get into heaven! He wants you to obey his commandments but he knows that we're all sinners. He is the most forgiving, loving God ever!! You can kill, steal, lie, cheat, and all sorts of stuff and just ask God to forgive you in humbleness and He will. Some people hate Jesus and they would rather be with the devil than with Jesus. The bible says, "If any man will come unto me, I will in no wise cast him out." Jesus created Adam and Eve. They had a choice between perfect earth (basically heaven or like heaven) and the other choice was evil. They decided they wanted to know everything instead of listening to God. Instead of making these people and the people produced by them - suffer judgment - Christ came to earth (from all His riches and heavenly paradise) (VOLUNTERILY) to die on a cross so that we wouldn't have to go thruogh the judgement that was fair. God is always fair. So, instead of passing judgment on US and THEM, He came and died on a cross to save us from our sins. He was beaten and whipped and stabbed and punched and kicked and hit and mocked and shamed and nailed to a cross and had sharp, peircing thorns around His head. He was so mutilated by the torture he (volunterily) recieved that the bible says you could not recognize who He was. The people back then had professional torturers and killers. He did this for us and all He asks in return is that we "believe on him"....and this is simply surrendering your life to him, give your life to him. I would much rather Him be in control of my life than the devil. Jesus has the purest and PERFECT love for us. This is something we know nothing of - unless He shows us. He doesn't love you like a family member, friend, or teacher - someone who will surely hurt your feelings, give up on you, or anything bad. His love is PERFECT. He loves you so much there is NO WAY you could even comprehend. God does not feel hatred at all. He says to love everyone - even your enemies. That's hard sometimes but He does it. ...because He is perfect in all ways. I love you Jesus!!

 

[theotherguy]

Good Post!!

 

[All4THALORD]

I just wanted to tell you a couple things just in case you didn't know:

(1) Humans and this earth could have only gotten here by two different ways: God or by accident. There is no third choice, right? It is now scientifically proven impossible for that many cells to have formed accidently. There is even a formula or equation or whatever you call it to prove this. There are some very good books out there that talk about this. If the research is done, it is OBVIOUS there is a God.

(2) God can talk to you. He can actually communicate with you. You have to be sincere when you ask though.... Click below and read my tract if you want to know what I'm talking about.

I totally agree that God is there. As a matter of fact, He is there and He is soverign.
With Christ's love
All4thalord

 

[All4one]

(1) Humans and this earth could have only gotten here by two different ways: God or by accident. There is no third choice, right? It is now scientifically proven impossible for that many cells to have formed accidently. There is even a formula or equation or whatever you call it to prove this. There are some very good books out there that talk about this. If the research is done, it is OBVIOUS there is a God.

I like this... scary to think it was all by accident.

 

[Singing Bush]

It is now scientifically proven impossible for that many cells to have formed accidently. There is even a formula or equation or whatever you call it to prove this. There are some very good books out there that talk about this. If the research is done, it is OBVIOUS there is a God.

Care to reveal the secret to us? What is this formula/equation?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[IloveJesusMyFather3:16]

I don't have the book and science isn't my thing so even if I did have the book I don't know if I could explain. ha ha. I can find the book if you want to buy it. Sorry, I know that isn't what you wanted to hear.

 

[Singing Bush]

I don't have the book and science isn't my thing so even if I did have the book I don't know if I could explain. ha ha. I can find the book if you want to buy it. Sorry, I know that isn't what you wanted to hear.

Well... I don't mean to be a burden by any means, but I don't want to take something such as an equation/formula disproving the natural origin of life on hearsay. It's quite a substantial and potentially revolutionary claim. If you have time at least, I really would appreciate a reference for the book or the forumula at least.

 

[IloveJesusMyFather3:16]

I think this is the book. I will do some more research and try to find out for sure. I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

http://www.parable.com/tbn/Search.a...y=Any&Criteria=++Muncaster,+Ralph+O.&x=17&y=4
Examine the Evidence: Creation Vs. Evolution

(This is also a great book on this same site:
Why Are Scientists Turning to God?)

Here you can buy it for $3.00
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0736903518/102-6668612-5536157?v=glance

You can look inside the book here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0736903518/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-6668612-5536157#reader-page
I think you can actually read the book from this site.

 

[Singing Bush]

I think this is the book. I will do some more research and try to find out for sure. I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

http://www.parable.com/tbn/Search.asp?SearchType=3&category=Any&Criteria=++Muncaster%2C+Ralph+O.&x=17&y=4
Examine the Evidence: Creation Vs. Evolution

Thank you very much.

I was only able to read a small excerpt from the book, but it was an interesting read. I'd love to discuss it w/ you here or elsewhere. Over PM even. If you're up for it of course. It's certainly understandable if you don't want to.

 

[IloveJesusMyFather3:16]

What would you like to talk about? I can't stay on the computer very long cause I have real bad vertigo and get dizzy so fast but I will try to answer your questions. I hope someone will read this book and tell me if this is the one with the equation/formula. Love you!!

 

[Singing Bush]

Good lord girl. Vertigo eh? Man, I'm surprised you venture on these forums at all. I don't know what I'd do w/o near constant access to my computer...

Anyways, sorry for the belated response. I just totally forgot about this thread. That said, I just wanted to talk to you about some generalizations made in the book, or at least the excerpt I was allowed to read, that seemed somewhat inaccurate to me. Not sure such an in depth discussion would be possible though what w/ your dizzy problems and all. It's up to you though...

 

[IloveJesusMyFather3:16]

Sure. I will try my best to talk to you. Talk away. ha ha. Maybe if someone feels like praying and sees this they/you could pray for me to be healed of my vertigo and fibro-mialgia. Thanks guys. Hope to catch you on so we can MSN and discuss stuff. Love you all!!
Leah

 

[tamtam92]

1) Humans and this earth could have only gotten here by two different ways: God or by accident. There is no third choice, right?

... I disagree, there are other choices... why not aliens ? Why not several gods ?
There are many people ready to believe anything but that God created the Earth...

 

[Singing Bush]

Sure. I will try my best to talk to you. Talk away. ha ha.

Well, just to start off w/ from what I've read from the excerpt provided in one of your previous links... The books seems to convey that evolution and Christianity cannot go together yet it provides no rational for why this has to be so. I personally see no reason for this and think many Christians who accept the foundational tenets of biology would take offense.

The other major problem is that it has a very simplistic and uninformed view of science. Many of the statements he makes are simply outright wrong factually. I'll spare the details for now as I don't know how much time you can or want to devote to this what w/ your condition and all, but those are the major issues I see. Thoughts, comments, suggestions? Did you see these as well or no?

Maybe if someone feels like praying and sees this they/you could pray for me to be healed of my vertigo and fibro-mialgia. Thanks guys. Hope to catch you on so we can MSN and discuss stuff.

Just did and hopefully I'll try to remember to do so in the future as well. Anyways, if you wish I can look for you on Yahoo Msger as well if that'd make the whole disussion easier. It's up to you. Thanks.

Tu hermano en Cristo,
SB

 

[IloveJesusMyFather3:16]

... I disagree, there are other choices... why not aliens ? Why not several gods ?
There are many people ready to believe anything but that God created the Earth...

You're not thinking big enough. How did the aliens get here?? How did the gods get here? The only choices are it started by accident or it was God. Right?

The books seems to convey that evolution and Christianity cannot go together yet it provides no rational for why this has to be so.

Basically for the same thing I just said. Either it was God or it wasn't. God doesn't believe in evolution. I haven't read the book....so I don't know much about it. Are you a christian, Singing Bush? If not, who are you praying to? MSN me anytime. Love you all!!

 

[Singing Bush]

Either it was God or it wasn't. God doesn't believe in evolution.

True it either was God or it wasn't. Not necessarily true that God does not believe in evolution. Unless you have some reasoning otherwise?

I haven't read the book....so I don't know much about it.

Heh, well I haven't either except for the 4 or 5 pages provided as a teaser of sorts. The above comments are the more important of the two issues I raised though so no worries.

Are you a christian, Singing Bush?

Yep. May not always look it 100% of the time, but it is what I try to define myself by.

 

[IloveJesusMyFather3:16]

Did I post the right book? Is it the one with the scientific - mathmatical equation/formula?

True it either was God or it wasn't. Not necessarily true that God does not believe in evolution. Unless you have some reasoning otherwise?

I have wonderful marvilous glorious beautiful proof: the Holy Spirit (who speaks to me and teaches me all things) and the Bible. If people are meant to be with God (if He has chosen them), if they would just TRY christianity out and ask for the Holy Spirit, they would be totally conviced and never go back. They surely wouldn't regret living with peace and joy and love and looking forward to being in heaven (paradise) with our Savior who died for us very brutily. I love you, Father. I will never leave your side.

 

[Singing Bush]

Did I post the right book? Is it the one with the scientific - mathmatical equation/formula?

Well I can't say for sure as I said, I was only given access to 4 or 5 pages of it. Needless to say, if it was in that book it wasn't in the pages I read.

I have wonderful marvilous glorious beautiful proof: the Holy Spirit (who speaks to me and teaches me all things) and the Bible.

Hmm... I see that as proof of your faith yes, as it is and should be for myself and all Christians, but I'm still not seeing the logical connection that Holy Spirit within us = God does not believe evolution. Surely there are many Christians who feel just as equally lead by the Spirit, who follow the Bible just as much as you and I do, and who also "believe in evolution?"

Vaya con Dios sister.