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Just because you deconstructed the text doesn’t mean I need to follow suit. I’ll stick with proper hermeneutics.
How is expressing his beliefs clearly imposing them on you?This is a Christian forum. You can expound on your beliefs all day. What I want is for you to stop imposing your beliefs on me.
The proposal that the USA is an explicitly "Christian nation" is highly controversial. No mystery there.That's exactly it. Why were your posts deemed so controversial? Makes no sense.
Is the purpose of a post to be ignored? If yes, what would be the fun of posting them then?I’m defending my position which I stated early on. Everyone was free to ignore me and move on.
How about amaximum voting age? The brain deteriorates after a certain point.Yes, I'm aware of the ages of our founders at the time. I'm not implying those under 25 are "worthless" in their opinions. But they often live "too much in the moment". That last development of the brain is what helps humans to think about long term consequences of decisions. That is, there are fewer "hold muh beer" moments.
And there are also obviously exceptions to the rule, as Hamilton (and others in history) have demonstrated. And one proof is that they are remembered. So taking this into account, I'll compromise at age 21.But down to 18 is stupid, as we have learned. You may be old enough to serve in the military, being at a physical high point and easily mentally pliable, but it's not in anyone's best interest that you drink - or vote. I know what I'm talking about. I used to be 18. I know how my mind worked back then.
YepFacts have supporting evidence.
I don’t know either. Everyone could have ignored me. Strange.How many angles are posters going to try and use against your point? It's funny to me that out of a million possibilities that the Founding Fathers could have gotten wrong, it's become *your* argument for Christianity that's become the entirety of the subject.
I don't know what's going on here, but it's weird.
As long as the same age disqualifies holding a Government office. Let's make a mandatory retirement age for all three branches of government.How about a maximum voting age? The brain deteriorates after a certain point.
Though the mind can deteriorate in some ways, its core beliefs remain strong, unless literal mental illness is involved. i.e. the wisdom collected over a few years remains intact. Then again, there is truth to the phrase, "with age comes wisdom, but sometimes age comes alone."How about amaximum voting age? The brain deteriorates after a certain point.
The difference is the that Christian belief would include his (unwanted) subjugation to God, even though he doesn't think He exists.How is expressing his beliefs clearly imposing them on you?
If you find it an imposition, then:
How is your expression of your beliefs not imposing on the rest of us?
We actually agree!The difference is the that Christian belief would include his (unwanted) subjugation to God, even though he doesn't think He exists.
I'm not sure I'd agree that that is imposing anything either. It is including, in my mind. He does not need to subjugate Himself to God for Christians to believe that God has sovereignty over us all. But we can't expect him to ACCEPT our Christian teachings if he doesn't believe them. We believe it. He doesn't. Stories over.
And just because WE believe it, doesn't mean that WE should be considered Christian nation.
The question was about the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. I gave my answer. Nowhere did I say that it was mandatory that anyone believe it. I did say it was a good idea, though.The difference is the that Christian belief would include his (unwanted) subjugation to God, even though he doesn't think He exists.
I'm not sure I'd agree that that is imposing anything either. It is including, in my mind. He does not need to subjugate Himself to God for Christians to believe that God has sovereignty over us all. But we can't expect him to ACCEPT our Christian teachings if he doesn't believe them. We believe it. He doesn't. Stories over.
And just because WE believe it, doesn't mean that WE should be considered Christian nation.
If anything, the mandatory retirement age for members of government should come before the age where voting rights are rescinded. I think that actually running a country takes more brain power than deciding who should run it.As long as the same age disqualifies holding a Government office. Let's make a mandatory retirement age for all three branches of government.
Sure. Like with abortion.We actually agree!
We believe it - he does not, stories over. zero imposition. You can't impose a belief unless you make it mandatory.
When core beliefs stay strong but the world changes, which it does at an ever more rapid pace, the core beliefs no longer fit the current state of the world and thus are not valid criteria for being able to vote properly.Though the mind can deteriorate in some ways, its core beliefs remain strong, unless literal mental illness is involved. i.e. the wisdom collected over a few years remains intact. Then again, there is truth to the phrase, "with age comes wisdom, but sometimes age comes alone."
Thing is, the only solution to that is requiring people to take a test in order to be allowed to vote. Obviously that would have a constitutional challenge, as it should.
But it's easier for the under 25 group because it is quite "universal". It's part of the maturing process. The "end of life" mental decline is MUCH more various. Some are doing fine at 100 while others are done at 60, or even less. That's a 40 year gap.
Oh man, I ABSOLUTELY agree with top limits for aging as well..If anything, the mandatory retirement age for members of government should come before the age where voting rights are rescinded. I think that actually running a country takes more brain power than deciding who should run it.
I'm not a scientist, and I think the ages should be based on scientific findings, but I think that nobody should serve in government beyond 70, and probably not vote after 80 to 85.
They should have followed James Wilson's plan and gone with a direct election of the chief executive.Their initial voting issues and then the electoral college "fix" come to mind as something they could of done better.
I wondered how this fairly nerdy topic racked up 7 pages in a day. Sigh....eh hem. THis is not a theology forum...
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